Regeneration defined and explained by Jesus and the Apostles

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paliggenesia: regeneration, renewal

Original Word:
παλιγγενεσία, ας, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: paliggenesia
Phonetic Spelling: (pal-ing-ghen-es-ee'-ah)
Definition: regeneration, renewal
Usage: a new birth, regeneration, renewal. properly, the coming of new birth because "born again"; regeneration.

Thayers- παλιγγενεσία- properly, new birth, reproduction, renewal, recreation . Commonly, however, the word denotes the restoration of a thing to its pristine state, its renovation, as the renewal or restoration of life after death.

In English, the word generate means to bring into existence; cause to be; produce. Re-generate basically means again.

So, it means to bring into existence again, renewed, rebirth, recreate, restoration etc......

When God created Adam, Adam was spiritually alive. When they sinned in the garden they died spiritually.

This is what it means when Paul says we were (past tense) dead in sins. ( Ephesians 2:1,5) We were regenerated and brought back to spiritual life (that man was originally created with, hence rebirth, renewed, born anew-again, born of the spirit etc...). A work of God not by mans will or human decision. John 1:13.

Ephesians 2:4-5- But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, 5 made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions

Colossians 2:13
When you were dead in your trespasses and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our trespasses,

Paul says:
(1 Corinthians 2:14 ) But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

The natural man is a spiritually dead person who is unsaved. He does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, and he cannot know them. Why? Because they are spiritually discerned.

Then in the next verse Paul says:
(1 Corinthians 2:15) But he who is spiritual judges all things . . .

The word "judges” basically means to sift, to examine, to decide rightly.

The question is, how does a natural man who does not accept the things of the Spirit of God become spiritual so that he can sift, examine or decide rightly? The correct answer is that God must sovereignly do it through regeneration. Next we will examine Jesus teaching on the topic from John 3.

hope this helps !!!
 
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Continued: breaking down Jesus teaching in John 3 with Nicodemus

John 3:3-10
3 Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.”

4 “How can someone be born when they are old?” Nicodemus asked. “Surely they cannot enter a second time into their mother’s womb to be born!”

5 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit. 6 Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. 7 You should not be surprised at my saying, ‘You must be born again.’ 8 The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”

9 “How can this be?” Nicodemus asked.

10 “You are Israel’s teacher,” said Jesus, “and do you not understand these things?


So lets go through this point by point.

1- to enter the kingdom of God a person must be born again( a 2nd time)
2- flesh gives birth to flesh ( 1st birth )
3- the Spirit gives birth to spirit( 2nd birth )
4- the wind(spirit) blows wherever IT pleases
5- we hear the sound of the wind but do not know where it is coming from or going to
6- the same with the Spirit( we see its effects but not its coming or going)
7- the spirit is the same as the wind- it does as it pleases and we see its effects in both the natural(wind) and supernatural ( spirit)
8- nowhere in this passage does it say that a man chooses to be born again
9- the new birth is compared to the physical birth just as the wind is compared to the spirits work
10- in both cases of birth God is the Active One and the one who is birthed is passive in the process.

Summary: just as flesh gives birth to flesh( 1st birth as a person) so to does the Spirit give birth to the spirit(the new birth- born again)
There can be no other reading into the text but what has been outlined in the 10 points. Those 10 points are directly from the text.


Regeneration-born again has to do with the wind in the context and parallels the new birth in that process. Here is how the New Birth, Born Again of the Spirit which is compared to the Wind and how it operates. Here are a couple of questions to ponder:

1-Do you control or have any influence over the wind ?

2-Can you call the wind ?

Neither can a person call Gods Spirit in the new birth as its an Act of GOD. See John 1:13. Born again by God, not by mans will.

The PARALLELS and CONTRASTS Jesus makes in the passage are the following 10 .

1- the 2 births
2- the wind and the spirit
3- flesh and the spirit
4- water and spirit
5- earthly and heavenly things
6- effects of both the wind and spirit
7- the seen with the unseen
8- the physical with the supernatural
9- knowing and not knowing, understanding and not understanding
10- entering the kingdom and not entering the kingdom

Jesus makes some more insightful contrasts and parallels below:

1st parallel is the wind and the spirit regarding the new birth/born again

2nd parallel is earthly things with heavenly things

3rd parallel He came from heaven/is in heaven while on earth.

4th is the parallel of eternal life/salvation compared with Moses lifting up the serpent and Jesus being lifted up on the cross.

5th is believing and not believing results in no condemnation or condemnation

6th is light and darkness

7th is good deeds/evil deeds

There is so much in John 3 one can mine by digging into the passage, its so rich and full of spiritual and natural truths.

Disclaimer : All comments positive and negative are welcomed. Those who just disagree without an apologetic will be ignored. All friendly opposition will be welcomed with open arms.


hope this helps !!!
 

PeanutGallery

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Disclaimer : All comments positive and negative are welcomed. Those who just disagree without an apologetic will be ignored. All friendly opposition will be welcomed with open arms.
Noticed you did not mention salvation through faith in Christ.

Scripture does state that God saves, by regeneration, those who believe.

1Co 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
Tit 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
 
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Noticed you did not mention salvation through faith in Christ.

Scripture does state that God saves, by regeneration, those who believe.

1Co 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
Tit 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Strawman. The topic is regeneration not faith.

And you ignored the disclaimer. So all future responses from you will be ignored as well unless you comply with the request. It’s as simple as that . I don’t have time for your games if bait n switch .

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Faith is connected to regeneration defined; without faith there is no regeneration.
Read John 3 in the OP. Where is Faith mentioned in the new birth ?

If you are unable to address John 3 then have a nice day this will be my last response .


John 3:3-10
3 Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.”

4 “How can someone be born when they are old?” Nicodemus asked. “Surely they cannot enter a second time into their mother’s womb to be born!”

5 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit. 6 Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. 7 You should not be surprised at my saying, ‘You must be born again.’ 8 The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”

9 “How can this be?” Nicodemus asked.

10 “You are Israel’s teacher,” said Jesus, “and do you not understand these things?

@PeanutGallery you claim to be a follower of Jesus and do not understand His teaching above ?

An oxymoron.
 

preacher4truth

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Read John 3 in the OP. Where is Faith mentioned in the new birth ?

If you are unable to address John 3 then have a nice day this will be my last response .


John 3:3-10
3 Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.”

4 “How can someone be born when they are old?” Nicodemus asked. “Surely they cannot enter a second time into their mother’s womb to be born!”

5 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit. 6 Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. 7 You should not be surprised at my saying, ‘You must be born again.’ 8 The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”

9 “How can this be?” Nicodemus asked.

10 “You are Israel’s teacher,” said Jesus, “and do you not understand these things?

@PeanutGallery you claim to be a follower of Jesus and do not understand His teaching above ?

An oxymoron.
Yes, many deny and disbelieve that the reality of regeneration, being made alive, is solely the work of God upon one dead in sins, unable to come to God "by faith" or any other means like "free will" John 1:13.
 

Stephen

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8- nowhere in this passage does it say that a man chooses to be born again

Interesting that you stopped the scripture citation before Jesus answers the "how" question.

9 “How can this be?” Nicodemus asked.
10 “You are Israel’s teacher,” said Jesus, “and do you not understand these things?

After verse 10, Jesus answers the "how" question to Nicodemus. Jesus is a teacher, of course he is going to explain it. And here is his explanation.

14 Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, 15 that everyone who believes may have eternal life in him.”

16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. 19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. 21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God.


The "how" to be born again is explained by Jesus is believing and coming into the light. And if your deeds are evil, you will hate the light.

The new birth is all about what you choose to do in reaction to what God has done.
 
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Yes, many deny and disbelieve that the reality of regeneration, being made alive, is solely the work of God upon one dead in sins, unable to come to God "by faith" or any other means like "free will" John 1:13.
civic said:
Read John 3 in the OP. Where is Faith mentioned in the new birth ?

If you are unable to address John 3 then have a nice day this will be my last response .

Jesus answer to Nicodemis

John 3:9-18 (KJV)
9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?
10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?
11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
 

PeanutGallery

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Read John 3 in the OP. Where is Faith mentioned in the new birth ?...
Faith is connected to regeneration:
John 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
 

Theo1689

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Faith is connected to regeneration:
John 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

"Regeneration" ("paliggenesia") is not found ANYWHERE inn John 3:15-18 or John 3:36.
 
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Faith is connected to regeneration:
John 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
Yes of course

James 1:18

“He chose to give us birth through the word of truth, that we might be a kind of firstfruits of all he created.”

The order clearly laid out is as follows:

“…give us brith…”
“…through the word of truth…”


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1 Peter 1:23 (KJV)
23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

“…being born again…”
“…by the word of God…”


1 Corinthians 4:15 (KJV)
15 For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.

“…begotten you…”
“…through the gospel…”


Titus 3:5 (KJV)

“Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;”

The washing of regeneration and the renewing of the Spirit are the means of salvation so



1Co 1:21; Eph 2:8; Acts 16:31; Rom 10:9

All show faith is before regeneration
 

preacher4truth

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civic said:
Read John 3 in the OP. Where is Faith mentioned in the new birth ?

If you are unable to address John 3 then have a nice day this will be my last response .

Jesus answer to Nicodemis

John 3:9-18 (KJV)
9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?
10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?
11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
You CONVENIENTLY left out the prior quoted text. The context clearly shows regeneration precedes faith.
 
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"Regeneration" ("paliggenesia") is not found ANYWHERE inn John 3:15-18 or John 3:36.


Paliggenesia is found nowhere in John's Gospel

An equivalent term translated born again is employed

In the context Jesus responds to the question of Nicodemis

How can these things be ?

Jesus tells him in verses 10ff
 
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You CONVENIENTLY left out the prior quoted text. The context clearly shows regeneration precedes faith.
Sorry no text states regeneration is before initial faith

Scripture does not contradict itself

and there was no prior text which stated it did

and if you think otherwise post it
 
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Yes, many deny and disbelieve that the reality of regeneration, being made alive, is solely the work of God upon one dead in sins, unable to come to God "by faith" or any other means like "free will" John 1:13.
John 1:13 does not help you

It simply shows regeneration must be done by God

It does nothing at all to deny God does this in response to receiving Christ as verse 12 shows

John 1:12 (ESV)
12 But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God,


Children of God (tekna theou). In the full spiritual sense, not as mere offspring of God true of all men (Acts 17:28). Paul's phrase huioi theou (Galatians 3:26) for believers, used also by Jesus of the pure in heart (Matthew 5:9), does not occur in John's Gospel (but in Rev. 21:7). It is possible that John prefers ta tekna tou theou for the spiritual children of God whether Jew or Gentile (John 11:52) because of the community of nature (teknon from root tek-, to beget). But one cannot follow Westcott in insisting on "adoption" as Paul's reason for the use of huioi since Jesus uses huioi theou in Matthew 5:9. Clearly the idea of regeneration is involved here as in John 3:3.
Word Pictures in the New Testament.

Vincent agrees

Sons (τέκνα)
Rev., more correctly, children. Son is υἱός. Τέκνον, child (τίκτω, to bring forth), denotes a relation based on community of nature



Word Studies in the New Testament.
 
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