Regeneration

TomFL

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REGENERATION
The term regeneration comes from a Greek word meaning “rebirth” or “new genesis.” The term signifies the renewal of the fallen creation through the redemptive work of Christ. The actual term “regeneration” is found only twice in Scripture, once for the renewal of all things (Mt 19:28; cf. Ac 3:21, “restoration of all things”) and once for the present inner spiritual renewal of believers. The same concept of renewal is expressed in the language of a new heart (e.g., Eze 36:26f), of a new birth (e.g., Jn 3:3, 7), of new persons through union with Christ in death and resurrection (e.g., Ro 6:4–8), and a new creation including persons (e.g., 2 Co 5:17) and the heavens and earth (e.g., Re 21:1). All of these concepts of renewal belong to the one great action of God in bringing eternal life and incorruptibility to fallen creation. The present new birth of individual believers is thus the beginning of the regeneration that will ultimately encompass the universe (heavens and earth).
personal regeneration
descriptions of ♦ new heart: De 30:6; Je 24:7; 31:33; Eze 11:19–20; 36:26–27 ♦ new birth: Jn 1:13; 3:3–8; Jam 1:18; 1 Pe 1:3, 23; 1 Jo 2:29; 3:9; 4:7; 5:1 ♦ spiritual death and resurrection: Ro 6:4–8; Ga 2:20; Eph 2:1, 5, 10; Col 2:12–13 ♦ new life: Eze 37:5, 14 ♦ new creation: 2 Co 5:17; Ga 6:15; Eph 4:22–24; Col 3:9–10; Tit 3:5: agent of—the Spirit: Eze 36:26, 27; Jn 3:5–8; Tit 3:5: instrument of—the Word: Jam 1:18; 1 Pe 1:23


The NASB Topical Index, electronic ed. (La Habra, CA: The Lockman Foundation, 1992).
 

ReverendRV

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REGENERATION
The term regeneration comes from a Greek word meaning “rebirth” or “new genesis.” The term signifies the renewal of the fallen creation through the redemptive work of Christ. The actual term “regeneration” is found only twice in Scripture, once for the renewal of all things (Mt 19:28; cf. Ac 3:21, “restoration of all things”) and once for the present inner spiritual renewal of believers. The same concept of renewal is expressed in the language of a new heart (e.g., Eze 36:26f), of a new birth (e.g., Jn 3:3, 7), of new persons through union with Christ in death and resurrection (e.g., Ro 6:4–8), and a new creation including persons (e.g., 2 Co 5:17) and the heavens and earth (e.g., Re 21:1). All of these concepts of renewal belong to the one great action of God in bringing eternal life and incorruptibility to fallen creation. The present new birth of individual believers is thus the beginning of the regeneration that will ultimately encompass the universe (heavens and earth).
personal regeneration
descriptions of ♦ new heart: De 30:6; Je 24:7; 31:33; Eze 11:19–20; 36:26–27 ♦ new birth: Jn 1:13; 3:3–8; Jam 1:18; 1 Pe 1:3, 23; 1 Jo 2:29; 3:9; 4:7; 5:1 ♦ spiritual death and resurrection: Ro 6:4–8; Ga 2:20; Eph 2:1, 5, 10; Col 2:12–13 ♦ new life: Eze 37:5, 14 ♦ new creation: 2 Co 5:17; Ga 6:15; Eph 4:22–24; Col 3:9–10; Tit 3:5: agent of—the Spirit: Eze 36:26, 27; Jn 3:5–8; Tit 3:5: instrument of—the Word: Jam 1:18; 1 Pe 1:23


The NASB Topical Index, electronic ed. (La Habra, CA: The Lockman Foundation, 1992).
Amen and amen...
 

ReverendRV

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Titus 3:5 KJV; "Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;"

Which came first, the Renewing or the Regeneration? Do they occur simultaneously in the Temporal Order? Does the given Order in Titus 3:5 provide us the Logical Order for the Mercy of God here?
 

brightfame52

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REGENERATION
The term regeneration comes from a Greek word meaning “rebirth” or “new genesis.” The term signifies the renewal of the fallen creation through the redemptive work of Christ. The actual term “regeneration” is found only twice in Scripture, once for the renewal of all things (Mt 19:28; cf. Ac 3:21, “restoration of all things”) and once for the present inner spiritual renewal of believers. The same concept of renewal is expressed in the language of a new heart (e.g., Eze 36:26f), of a new birth (e.g., Jn 3:3, 7), of new persons through union with Christ in death and resurrection (e.g., Ro 6:4–8), and a new creation including persons (e.g., 2 Co 5:17) and the heavens and earth (e.g., Re 21:1). All of these concepts of renewal belong to the one great action of God in bringing eternal life and incorruptibility to fallen creation. The present new birth of individual believers is thus the beginning of the regeneration that will ultimately encompass the universe (heavens and earth).
personal regeneration
descriptions of ♦ new heart: De 30:6; Je 24:7; 31:33; Eze 11:19–20; 36:26–27 ♦ new birth: Jn 1:13; 3:3–8; Jam 1:18; 1 Pe 1:3, 23; 1 Jo 2:29; 3:9; 4:7; 5:1 ♦ spiritual death and resurrection: Ro 6:4–8; Ga 2:20; Eph 2:1, 5, 10; Col 2:12–13 ♦ new life: Eze 37:5, 14 ♦ new creation: 2 Co 5:17; Ga 6:15; Eph 4:22–24; Col 3:9–10; Tit 3:5: agent of—the Spirit: Eze 36:26, 27; Jn 3:5–8; Tit 3:5: instrument of—the Word: Jam 1:18; 1 Pe 1:23


The NASB Topical Index, electronic ed. (La Habra, CA: The Lockman Foundation, 1992).
So what is your point ? Also though you didn't mention it, the word regeneration is a noun the two times its mentioned Matt 19 and Titus 3
 

TomFL

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Amen and amen...
I particularly wish to note the instrument of the New Birth

James 1:18 —KJV
“Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.”

1 Pet. 1:23 —ESV
“since you have been born again, not of perishable seed but of imperishable, through the living and abiding word of God;”

a pair of verses I referred to previously noting the efficacy of the gospel in regeneration

and had previously noted was a spiritual resurrection and new life
 

zerinus

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Titus 3:5 KJV; "Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;"

Which came first, the Renewing or the Regeneration? Do they occur simultaneously in the Temporal Order? Does the given Order in Titus 3:5 provide us the Logical Order for the Mercy of God here?
So what is your explanation for this:

John 3:

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

According to this, two kinds of births are required for salvation, birth of water and of the Spirit. One of them alone will not do. And water comes before the Spirit.
 
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brightfame52

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Titus 3:5 KJV; "Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;"

Which came first, the Renewing or the Regeneration? Do they occur simultaneously in the Temporal Order? Does the given Order in Titus 3:5 provide us the Logical Order for the Mercy of God here?
Good question rev. I believe regeneration comes first, and has primary reference to the death of Christ and the washing it provides the elect who He died for Rev 1:5

and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood

Heb 1:3

who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high

Christ via His Death purged the sins of the Church, His Body, the Elect and Sheep of God. The word purge is the greek word katharismos and means:

a cleansing, purification, a ritual purgation or washing

  1. of the washing of the Jews before and after their meals
  2. of levitical purification of women after childbirth
  3. from the guilt of sins wrought by the expiatory sacrifice of Christ


Then all who have been washed in the regeneration of Christ, will experience the New Birth or the renewing of the Spirit. Every Elect sinner Christ died for has been washed in regeneration of Christ, and will be in each generation made alive Spiritually, or experience the renewal of the Holy Ghost which I believe is the New Birth.
 

TomFL

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What is the point of the OP ? Then i can answer that question more with understanding your point. As it stands now everything is pointless !
You wee asked a question

Is there a reason you cannot answer it ?

Do you disagree with anything in the post ?
 

brightfame52

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I particularly wish to note the instrument of the New Birth

James 1:18 —KJV
“Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.”

1 Pet. 1:23 —ESV
“since you have been born again, not of perishable seed but of imperishable, through the living and abiding word of God;”

a pair of verses I referred to previously noting the efficacy of the gospel in regeneration

and had previously noted was a spiritual resurrection and new life
You have not proved a thing you said. Have you studied those verses ? I can see this is just another fruitless attempt to promote the heresy of regeneration through faith. Again, thats impossible since Faith is a fruit of the Spirit. And Gospel regeneration is a heresy, it does nothing but promote salvation by works. Faith being the act of man that saves him !
 
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