Regeneration

TomFL

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Can you read? Using your proof text, walk us through it, show us the context is regeneration. Should I ask slower? Dumb it down a little?
Can you

Regeneration is new life

3824 παλιγγενεσία, παλινγενεσία [paliggenesia /pal·ing·ghen·es·ee·ah/] n f. From 3825 and 1078; TDNT 1:686; TDNTA 117; GK 4098 and 4100; Two occurrences; AV translates as “regeneration” twice. 1 new birth, reproduction, renewal, recreation, regeneration. 1A hence renovation, regeneration, the production of a new life consecrated to God,


Hello

John is speaking of new life


John 20:31 —ESV
“but these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.”
 

preacher4truth

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@TomFL please stop avoiding what @Reformedguy is asking you. You never really deal with the texts or question and appear to bang out a regurgitated answer before allowing correction from Scripture. Note 2 Timothy 4:1ff and accept correction and that you fail to implement 2 Timothy 2:15.
 

TomFL

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I asked about your so called proof text. Is the context regeneration? You say yes. Good. Using the text show me.
What part of the definition did you not understand ?

3824 παλιγγενεσία, παλινγενεσία [paliggenesia /pal·ing·ghen·es·ee·ah/] n f. From 3825 and 1078; TDNT 1:686; TDNTA 117; GK 4098 and 4100; Two occurrences; AV translates as “regeneration” twice. 1 new birth, reproduction, renewal, recreation, regeneration. 1A hence renovation, regeneration, the production of a new life consecrated to God,
 

TomFL

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@TomFL please stop avoiding what @Reformedguy is asking you. You never really deal with the texts or question and appear to bang out a regurgitated answer before allowing correction from Scripture. Note 2 Timothy 4:1ff and accept correction and that you fail to implement 2 Timothy 2:15.
Sorry that is absurd

regeneration was defined

as new life

John is speaking of new life

Are you doubting he is speaking of obtaining something they do not already have ?

John 20:31 —ESV
“but these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.”

do you deny it is imparted by believing that Jesus is the Christ ?

Are you denying what many Calvinistic authors have affirmed

are you denying Lexicons ?

Can you deny the phrase new birth speaks of new life ?

He was not avoided he was addressed
 
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brightfame52

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Who is the us

But believers

You simply ignore context

1 Peter 1:3–5 (KJV 1900)
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you, 5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith
unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

1 Peter 1:7–10 (KJV 1900)
7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ: 8 Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory: 9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls. 10 Of which salvation the prophets have inquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:

1 Peter 1:17–25 (KJV 1900)
17 And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man’s work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear: 18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; 19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: 20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you, 21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God. 22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently: 23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. 24 For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: 25 But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.
Again, 1 Pet 1 3 says how regeneration is brought about.
 

Reformedguy

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What part of the definition did you not understand ?

3824 παλιγγενεσία, παλινγενεσία [paliggenesia /pal·ing·ghen·es·ee·ah/] n f. From 3825 and 1078; TDNT 1:686; TDNTA 117; GK 4098 and 4100; Two occurrences; AV translates as “regeneration” twice. 1 new birth, reproduction, renewal, recreation, regeneration. 1A hence renovation, regeneration, the production of a new life consecrated to God,
What part of my question do you not understand? Do you know what context is?
 

TomFL

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What part of my question do you not understand? Do you know what context is?
Do you not understand

Life in particular new life is being spoken of

John 20:31 —KJV
“But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.”

hello that is the context

explaining the production of new life is dealing with the context
 

Reformedguy

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Do you not understand

Life in particular new life is being spoken of

John 20:31 —KJV
“But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.”

hello that is the context

explaining the production of new life is dealing with the context
Why is new life the context? Why not believing that Jesus is the Christ?
 

TomFL

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Why is new life the context? Why not believing that Jesus is the Christ?
Hello

all that is in the context

Did you need believing that Jesus is the Christ explained to you ?

i assumed you would understand that

But are you saying you need that explained to you ?
 

Reformedguy

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Hello

all that is in the context

Did you need believing that Jesus is the Christ explained to you ?

i assumed you would understand that

But are you saying you need that explained to you ?
I asking why is one the context and not the other. Your a little on the slow side
 

Theo1689

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Hello

all that is in the context

Did you need believing that Jesus is the Christ explained to you ?

i assumed you would understand that

But are you saying you need that explained to you ?

If you need to "explain" it, it means it's not in the text, and you are making it up.
 

Theo1689

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So what part of Jesus is the Christ

is not in the text ?

which is what he asked about

What part of life is not in the text ?

Asking irrelevant and condescending questions is not "explaining" anything.
I will conclude you cannot "explain" your false theology, because it is unBiblical.

Have a nice day! ;)
 

TomFL

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Asking irrelevant and condescending questions is not "explaining" anything.
I will conclude you cannot "explain" your false theology, because it is unBiblical.

Have a nice day! ;)
You make your conclusion in the absence of evidence

BTW you stated

If you need to "explain" it, it means it's not in the text, and you are making it up.


in response to a post that asked another if he needed it explained Jesus is the Christ

but that is in the text

You have a nice day
 
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