Roman Catholic Pope vs Jesus Christ

Roman Catholicism boldly teaches and proudly proclaims that their "Pope" is, in fact and truth, 'Jesus Christ on earth.'
But, in the very Word of God, the apostle Paul warned about "another Jesus." Do you suppose that this 'other Jesus' he warned us about would be similar to Jesus or very different?
Jesus is king. He has a kingdom. He established offices in his kingdom. There is a change of command. He gave authority to Peter and his successors. What Paul warned about wasn't a warning against Peter and his successors.

This "other Jesus" would probably be similar to Jesus.
 
Jesus is king. He has a kingdom. He established offices in his kingdom. There is a change of command. He gave authority to Peter and his successors. What Paul warned about wasn't a warning against Peter and his successors.

This "other Jesus" would probably be similar to Jesus.
The pope isn't Jesus, the pope isn't a king, but he does follower the Roman emperors. We are all equals no need for a chain of command (I think that is what you meant). Jesus never gave authority to evil old men who harm the sheep, allow sin to flourish and who do not expose sin or teach the truth. Your institution is what Paul warned us against. Your leaders are nothing at all like Peter and the apostles and therefore are not their successors.
 
Exactly, scripture in context leads us to the bread and wine being the body and blood of Christ.
No it doesn't and if what you claimed were true then there would be evidence of such. You have no evidence whatsoever.

Jesus was speaking symbolically at a symbolic meal and the apostles understood He was speaking spiritually and not literally. Jesus would never get them to break commandments but your institution has many ways for breaking many commandments and covers up what it is doing.
 
I believe the RCs hang on to these false teachings about the bread and wine because they love eating Jesus, somehow they think it makes them better than others.
 
balshan said:
Well thank God He would never allow the RCs to use the spiritual army.
dingoling. said:
This "other Jesus" would probably be similar to Jesus.
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I come in my Fathers name
and ye receive me not
but if one comes in his own name
him ye """"WILL"""" receive

Scripture tells us who he is and his name
no need to be deceived
but when he comes you won't beleive it
must be a trick of some sort

RCC'ers are already primed to grovel in the Pig Pen at his feet
they have no defense against the deception
 
Jesus is king. He has a kingdom. He established offices in his kingdom. There is a change of command. He gave authority to Peter and his successors. What Paul warned about wasn't a warning against Peter and his successors.

This "other Jesus" would probably be similar to Jesus.
God uses representatives, true. However any hierarchy is limited to being flat or two dimensional.
Matthew 20:25-26
Jesus called them together and said, “You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their high officials exercise authority over them. Not so with you.
 
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balshan said:
I believe the RCs hang on to these false teachings about the bread and wine because they love eating Jesus, somehow they think it makes them better than others.

RiJoRi


That is the concept behind both cannibalism and theophagy. Simply put, it's "you are what you eat" taken to the extreme.
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It is now easy to understand why a savage should desire to partake of the flesh of an animal or man whom he regards as divine. By eating the body of the god he shares in the gods attributes and powers. And when the god is a corn-god, the corn is his proper body; when he is a vine-god, the juice of the grape is his blood; and so by eating the bread and drinking the wine the worshipper partakes of the real body and blood of his god. Thus the drinking of wine in the rites of a vine-god like Dionysus is not an act of revelry, it is a solemn sacrament. Yet a time comes when reasonable men find it hard to understand how any one in his senses can suppose that by eating bread or drinking wine he consumes the body or blood of a deity. When we call corn Ceres and wine Bacchus, says Cicero, we use a common figure of speech; but do you imagine that anybody is so insane as to believe that the thing he feeds upon is a god?


seems like all these occult, customs of the commoners,
and as Newman said
"the rulers of the Church from early times were prepared,
should the occasion arise, to adopt, to imitate,
or sanction the existing rites and customs of the populace,
as well as the philosophy of the educated class
."

and so by eating the bread and drinking the wine the worshipper partakes of the real body and blood of his god.
 
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What is a Roman Catholic novena and why does it need to be presided over?
The Catholic Encyclopedia, available on our site, defines a Novena as "nine days' of private or public devotion in the Catholic Church to obtain special graces." While the number eight in the Judeo-Christian tradition was always thought of as a festive number of new beginnings, the number nine seemed to be often linked with suffering...When we pray a Novena, we either pray the same prayer for all nine days or follow a list of prayers to be prayed for each day. Every novena is a bit different in the intention, formation of prayers and practice.. from catholic.org

Which means there is a form of payment for doing a novena.
 
The Catholic Encyclopedia, available on our site, defines a Novena as "nine days' of private or public devotion in the Catholic Church to obtain special graces." While the number eight in the Judeo-Christian tradition was always thought of as a festive number of new beginnings, the number nine seemed to be often linked with suffering...When we pray a Novena, we either pray the same prayer for all nine days or follow a list of prayers to be prayed for each day. Every novena is a bit different in the intention, formation of prayers and practice.. from catholic.org

Which means there is a form of payment for doing a novena.
And they seem to have the idea that "God will give attention to them because of the number of their words." (Matt 6:7, BBE)

--Rich
 
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