satan has a lot of 'churches' around the world and lots of false religions pretending that they teach His truth. in reality they are agents of satan.Of course. One of the wise statements made by Luther...
For, where God built a church, there the devil would also build a chapel…In such sort is the devil always God's ape.
Colloquia Mensalia (1566) ch. 2 (tr. H. Bell as Martin Luther's Divine Discourses, 1652)
NO way! Satan has rc's stumbling and fumbling around in the dark thinking that they are good with GOD. Why would he ever want to shed the light of the truth on his lies? Wouldn't it be counterproductive to what he actually wants?Would the devil ever attempt to beget in Roman Catholic persons a regard to the divine Word of God?
I agree. A spirit of delusion will not incline persons to seek direction at the mouth of God. "To the law and to the testimony!" (Isiah 8:20) is never the cry of evil spirits who have no light in them.NO way! Satan has rc's stumbling and fumbling around in the dark thinking that they are good with GOD. Why would he ever want to shed the light of the truth on his lies? Wouldn't it be counterproductive to what he actually wants?
My immediate reaction is "no!", but upon "codgertation" (when old men think ), I would say "perhaps".Would the devil ever attempt to beget in Roman Catholic persons a regard to the divine Word of God?
Luther died in 1546, have any direct quotes from his writings or sermons?Of course. One of the wise statements made by Luther...
For, where God built a church, there the devil would also build a chapel…In such sort is the devil always God's ape.
Colloquia Mensalia (1566) ch. 2 (tr. H. Bell as Martin Luther's Divine Discourses, 1652)
Consider the 'Pharisees' within the Roman Catholic Church. Up until perhaps 40-50 years ago, they would never direct their 'flock' to covet the word of God and seek His direction. Instead Roman Catholic fledglings were told to say the rosary, attend novena services, go to confession, read the catechism, wear a scapular, succor Mary in every area of their life and devote themselves entirely to her or pick a favorite saint, then purchase and place a statue of them in a very noticeable place in your home, as a constant visual reminder to venerate daily whoever that graven image was cast to resemble.My immediate reaction is "no!", but upon "codgertation" (when old men think ), I would say "perhaps".
Consider the Pharisees. They had a very high regard for the Word, scrupulously following all its "jots and tittles". Their problem, however, was that they were in love with their interpretations thereof (as well as the interpretations of their predecessors – embalmed as "Traditions of Our Forefathers") – to a point that Jesus laid into them for "nullifying the Word of God".
So, "regard to the divine Word of God" is fine with Satan (he quotes it, remember) as long as that Word can be nullified in some fashion.
--Rich
"Esse quam videri"
While I know where you're going with this, the fact is that this is exactly what the devil does with the scribes and Pharisees in the bible. Satan can make that bible an idol to those he deceives and get them to use it to destroy anyone and everyone with it. Unlike those who are led by the Spirit, Satan is quite adept at getting people to blend, deflect, ignore, etc. rather than rightly divide the word.Would the devil ever attempt to beget in Roman Catholic persons a regard to the divine Word of God?
does Satan also use strawman arguments?Satan knows where the authority lies and it is not scripture alone; it is the Pope/Magisterium. That is why Satan attacks them - to leed people away from the truth.
Oh Satan is very good at deceiving those who follow men, as RCs do. Satan was never afraid of the RCC, but He is afraid of God and Jesus.Satan knows where the authority lies and it is not scripture alone; it is the Pope/Magisterium. That is why Satan attacks them - to leed people away from the truth.
Satan sees to it that they follow the misinterpretations of their institution. He has convinced them that is true by twisting the real meanings of biblical words, making out Latin is a biblical language, and pretending Mary is more than she is in scripture for example, he also allows them to justify ignoring verses and accepting evil behaviour of their leaders.Would the devil ever attempt to beget in Roman Catholic persons a regard to the divine Word of God?
I'm not too sure much has changed. Yes, reading the Scripture is not so much a no-no as it was, but one must still interpret it as the RCC sees fit. And practically, to whom does the RC turn to for guidance - if they even see the need for spiritual guidance?Consider the 'Pharisees' within the Roman Catholic Church. Up until perhaps 40-50 years ago, they would never direct their 'flock' to covet the word of God and seek His direction.
Seeing Roman Catholics' responses to "how do I get saved?", not much – if anything – has changed.Instead Roman Catholic fledglings were told to say the rosary, attend novena services, go to confession, read the catechism, wear a scapular, succor Mary in every area of their life and devote themselves entirely to her or pick a favorite saint, then purchase and place a statue of them in a very noticeable place in your home, as a constant visual reminder to venerate daily whoever that graven image was cast to resemble.
Yes! It takes God's Holy Spirit to open anyone's eyes. For some, it's like a light turning on; for others it's more like the sunrise - slow but sure. And some will battle the Light until the day they die.It is only with God's own direction that they can discover their delusions.
What strawman arguments? The OP?does Satan also use strawman arguments?
sadly, it does when it is translated thru the hearts and minds of those who are in bondage to the men of the rcc, instead of to Christ alone.YOUR strawman arguments, "Satan knows where the authority lies and it is not scripture alone; "
Sola Scriptura does NOT claim scripture alone is the only authority
I challenge you to use these descriptions:
From Catholic.com
the principle of sola scriptura ("Scripture alone"), according to the sharpest Protestant scholars, means that the Bible is the ultimate authority—above councils and popes and any tradition—but not that no commentary or tradition may be cited or utilized
from New Advent
"The [first] objective [or formal] principle proclaims the canonical Scriptures, especially the New Testament, to be the only infallible source and rule of faith and practice (not the only source)"
" Protestantism, however, by no means despises or rejects church authority as such, but only subordinates it to, and measures its value by, the Bible,"
from James White:
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Secondly, it is not a denial of the Church’s authority to teach God’s truth. I Timothy 3:15 describes the Church as “the pillar and foundation of the truth.” The truth is in Jesus Christ and in His Word. The Church teaches truth and calls men to Christ and, in so doing, functions as the pillar and foundation thereof. The Church does not add revelation or rule over Scripture. The Church being the bride of Christ, listens to the Word of Christ, which is found in God-breathed Scripture.
The spirit of error deceives millions, just as you have been deceived into delusional thinking that man must create a high opinion of the Roman Catholic Pope and it's Magisterium. Satan knows that in order to promote the RCC's kingdom of darkness here on earth he must collaborate with the Pope/ Magisterium. Together with Satan they have always shown a mortal spite and hatred towards the Holy Word of God. They have done everything in their power to extinguish that eternal light that shines through their darkness, and they continue to try desperately to draw men off or away from it, because they all know it to be that light by which their kingdoms of darkness will be overthrown.Satan knows where the authority lies and it is not scripture alone; it is the Pope/Magisterium. That is why Satan attacks them - to leed people away from the truth.
Yes, scripture is important. That is why the Catholic church encourages us the read, study memorize and meditate on it. It upholds it as the inspired word of God.The spirit of error deceives millions, just as you have been deceived into delusional thinking that man must create a high opinion of the Roman Catholic Pope and it's Magisterium. Satan knows that in order to promote the RCC's kingdom of darkness here on earth he must collaborate with the Pope/ Magisterium. Together with Satan they have always shown a mortal spite and hatred towards the Holy Word of God. They have done everything in their power to extinguish that eternal light that shines through their darkness, and they continue to try desperately to draw men off or away from it, because they all know it to be that light by which their kingdoms of darkness will be overthrown.
sure it can:We noticed that you didn't quote any scripture in your definition of sola scriptura. Sola Scriptura is a man made doctrine.
Scripture alone cannot be the ultimate authority above councils, Popes....
Stella1000 said:
Of course. One of the wise statements made by Luther...
For, where God built a church, there the devil would also build a chapel…In such sort is the devil always God's ape.
Colloquia Mensalia (1566) ch. 2 (tr. H. Bell as Martin Luther's Divine Discourses, 1652)
That's a direct Luther quote from the first English addition of Martin Luther's Divine Discourses (1652). His "Table Talk" discourses.Luther died in 1546, have any direct quotes from his writings or sermons?
I appreciate that obedience and knowing our smallness before God breeds humility in faith. I would not like to become a braggard, skiting about my guaranteed salvation while taking every opportunity to insult the faith of others. But that's just me and my faith.Consider the 'Pharisees' within the Roman Catholic Church. Up until perhaps 40-50 years ago, they would never direct their 'flock' to covet the word of God and seek His direction. Instead Roman Catholic fledglings were told to say the rosary, attend novena services, go to confession, read the catechism, wear a scapular, succor Mary in every area of their life and devote themselves entirely to her or pick a favorite saint, then purchase and place a statue of them in a very noticeable place in your home, as a constant visual reminder to venerate daily whoever that graven image was cast to resemble.
It is only with God's own direction that they can discover their delusions.