organgrinder
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And yet it does in many cases. Do you not see that, especially in the Marian doctrines?Sacred Tradition cannot disagree with Scripture and in fact Scripture is part of and came from Sacred Tradition.
And yet it does in many cases. Do you not see that, especially in the Marian doctrines?Sacred Tradition cannot disagree with Scripture and in fact Scripture is part of and came from Sacred Tradition.
From God.If the Canon wasn't the result of a long established tradition of discussion and agreement by teachers/theologians/holy fathers, where did the canon come from?
No, because the organization to which Stella has devoted her body, mind, soul and spirit tells her that there is no disagreement. So to her, there is no disagreement!And yet it does in many cases. Do you not see that, especially in the Marian doctrines?
Sacred Tradition cannot disagree with Scripture and in fact Scripture is part of and came from Sacred Tradition.
And yet they did not agree. Jerome rejected the apocrypha. Athanasius has our bible except he included Baruch. So, not sure what youre talking about with this alleged agreement. The first dogmatic 'agreement' took place at Trent when you were forced to agree with an anathema attached to it.The Canon of Scripture is the most important point of agreement between the early Fathers. Without that agreement, we wouldn't have Scripture. That is worth valuing wouldn't you think? That agreement.
And then they complain that Luther – who had translated the Bible what, 20 years prior? – did not follow the RCC canon!The first dogmatic 'agreement' took place at Trent when you were forced to agree with an anathema attached to it.
Exactly! And he did translate the apocrypha. They just keep perpetuating the myth he didn't.And then they complain that Luther – who had translated the Bible what, 20 years prior? – did not follow the RCC canon!
Confusion, anyone?
--Rich
"Esse quam videri"
It floated down from heaven all leather bound with those handy book tabs. (Protestant version )From God.
Bonnie said:
From God.
catholics sure don't know much about Protestants. do you all also learn what you know about them from the rcc?It floated down from heaven all leather bound with those handy book tabs. (Protestant version )
Satan quoted Scripture to JESUS during his temptation. A "Theologian Skilled in the art", can make Holy Scriptures say any blasphemous thing he wants. After all, satan knows the scriptures, and how to "adjust them" better that we do.NO way! Satan has rc's stumbling and fumbling around in the dark thinking that they are good with GOD. Why would he ever want to shed the light of the truth on his lies? Wouldn't it be counterproductive to what he actually wants?
Nor about Codex Vaticanus, which was written on vellum, which is derived from animal skins, a.k.a. leather! Oh, the irony!catholics sure don't know much about Protestants.
Where else? Insofar as pilgrim believes in the RCC as the way, the truth, and the life. Must be them Giacomo Chickalini tracts.do you all also learn what you know about them from the rcc?
Mocking Gods word again? God inspired the writers to write. Thats all Bonnie meant. Not to speak for her but we know how we got our bible and the rcc had nothing to do with it.It floated down from heaven all leather bound with those handy book tabs. (Protestant version )
Mocking Gods word again? God inspired the writers to write. Thats all Bonnie meant. Not to speak for her but we know how we got our bible and the rcc had nothing to do with it.
Then why didn't Bonnie say that? Is it too difficult to say that God worked through the Popes and bishops to codify Scripture, even though it is the truth? Because if they didn't do it, then it floated down from heaven.Mocking Gods word again? God inspired the writers to write. Thats all Bonnie meant. Not to speak for her but we know how we got our bible and the rcc had nothing to do with it.
Baloney! That is not the Protestant version. But God did give us the Holy Scriptures. By inspiring His prophets and Apostles to write them. Didn't He? Are they not one of His greatest gifts to us?It floated down from heaven all leather bound with those handy book tabs. (Protestant version )
No, that is not what I meant. God inspired His prophets and apostles to write Scripture and scribes copied and re-copied them. He made sure His word would be preserved.Then why didn't Bonnie say that? Is it too difficult to say that God worked through the Popes and bishops to codify Scripture, even though it is the truth? Because if they didn't do it, then it floated down from heaven.
No kidding! That is how the Reformation happened and continues to this day.Satan quoted Scripture to JESUS during his temptation. A "Theologian Skilled in the art", can make Holy Scriptures say any blasphemous thing he wants. After all, satan knows the scriptures, and how ton "adjust them" better that we do.
Who decided the "core" of the new testament at the end of the 2nd century, long after the passing of the apostles?No, that is not what I meant. God inspired His prophets and apostles to write Scripture and scribes copied and recorded them
The core of the NT was pretty much decided by the end of the 2nd. Century--long before popes or your Rcc existed. In fact the entire Canon was codified before the entire church had come to be ruled from Rome, though it was on its way.
What your church's Scribes did was copy and recopy the Scriptures thru the centuries, so it would not be lost. For that I am grateful.
Why was God only "pretty much decided" by the end of the second century? When did He become fully decided?Who decided the "core" of the new testament at the end of the 2nd century, long after the passing of the apostles?
Why was God only "pretty much decided" by the end of the second century what the canon was? When did He become fully decided on it?The core of the NT was pretty much decided by the end of the 2nd. Century--long before popes or your Rcc existed. In fact the entire Canon was codified before the entire church had come to be ruled from Rome, though it was on its way.