I've said in times past on these sites and others that men can do some things that are good and still not be saved they've told me it's not possible.
Yes, because being good does not get you into heaven.
Even something that might appear right they assert they probably had selfish motives or so they said.
Go back and read what I said in post # 10
In other words a natural man can't do anything right or with a good motive. I've heard that all through the years by some
Well again, what you have heard or read by amateur Calvinists is not what you would learn by reading a book by a seminary professor.
But, how do you understant:
Jeremiah 13:23 Can an Ethiopian[
a] change his skin
or a leopard its spots?
Neither can you do good
who are accustomed to doing evil.
do good from Vines OT dictionary
yatab (H3190), "to go well, be pleasing, be delighted, be happy." This verb appears 117 times in the Old Testament. The meaning of the word, as expressed in Neh_2:6, is "pleased."
Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be.
8 So then, those who are in the flesh
cannot please God.
Notice in the Jeremiah passage, those accustomed to doing evil "cannot be pleasing."
So, what is the remedy for that person?
Joh 3:3 . . .unless one is born again, he cannot
see the kingdom of God."
See: The things of God's kingdom are not apparent to the natural vision. A new power of sight is required, which attaches only to the new man. Compare 1Co_2:14.
Again, this does not mean that natural people cannot be honest decent people. It means that all their honesty and decency are not done from faith.
Rom 14:23 . . .for whatever is not from faith is sin.
Titus 1:15 To the pure, all things are pure,
but to those who are corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure. In fact, both their minds and consciences are corrupted.