so he disagrees with Christ's teaching and thus doesnt think Christ is the wisest.It's why he cannot consider Christ to have been the best and wisest of men.
Isnt that pretty typical of lots of people who dont believe in Christ?
so he disagrees with Christ's teaching and thus doesnt think Christ is the wisest.It's why he cannot consider Christ to have been the best and wisest of men.
No. Most atheists just think the entire biblical narrative is incredulous. Jesus could have been depicted as perfectly as possible to an atheist's moral sensibilities and it wouldn't matter because the entire biblical vehicle that delivers his narrative lacks credibility.so he disagrees with Christ's teaching and thus doesnt think Christ is the wisest.
Isnt that pretty typical of lots of people who dont believe in Christ?
Maybe you could read what he actually says. It's only a few pages, and he does more than merely disagree with Christ's teachings.so he disagrees with Christ's teaching and thus doesnt think Christ is the wisest.
Isnt that pretty typical of lots of people who dont believe in Christ?
Some of the texts of Deuteronomy, especially those from Qumran, have helped to elucidate the LXX as translation and variants found at Qumran have substantiated an earlier Hebrew version of the texts, which includes Deuteronomy 32.8. The Masoretic and Samaritan translations read thisIt doesn’t seem usually to be printed in editions of the LXX, as far as I can tell.
As for deities and human form, does the book you’re reading about this comment on evidence outside of the Hebrew bible?
Before I address that, I will ask of you the same question I put to @stiggywiggy.I wonder where you find that in the Hebrew Scriptures.
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Does God want everyone to know Him?
Does God want everyone to know Him?
That's because your neighbor isn't invisible.I don't even know my next door neighbor, but I see him nearly every morning when I'm leaving my driveway on my way to work.
What is a Christian?
Russell begins by defining terms, and concludes that three things are minimally necessary for qualifying as a Christian: Belief in God and immortality, and that Jesus was at least the best and wisest of all men. These therefore will be the targets of his criticism.
Again, Russell's ignorance is displayed front and center. The Bible knows nothing of a created God (Exodus 3:14)The Existence of God
While acknowledging that the list is not complete, Russell considers 5 classical arguments for God. The first is The First Cause Argument which he argues cannot have any validity on account of begging the question of what caused God. He says "There is no reason why the world could not have come into being without a cause; nor, on the other hand, is there any reason why it should not have always existed. There is no reason to suppose that the world had a beginning at all."
Romans 1 refutes RussellHe next considers The Natural Law Argument,
Macro Evolution is theory only, the law of heredity is both factual and scientific. There is nothing that exists in nature that did not inherit its characteristics from is predecessors. People who support macro evolution as the basis for what exists have no explanation for the personal coming from the impersonal, therefore they have no explanation for personality, reason, conscience, nor language.The third argument considered is The Argument from Design, and Russell argues that evolution has largely undercut this by showing how organisms have adapted to fit their environment rather than having the environment tailored to fit them.
Russell has no concept of God's holiness and justice nor of the Biblical themes of Light and DarknessFourth is the category of Moral Arguments for Deity, which Russell attributes primarily to Kant and rebuts with Euthyphro's Dilemma, arguing that either God's moral dictates are arbitrary meaning God cannot be non-trivially 'good', or God is himself subject to morality and therefore not the source of it.
Question, how does an innocent child who is murdered receive justice?The final considered argument is what he calls The Argument for the Remedying of Injustice, which is the idea that justice requires an afterlife where the injustices of our known world can be redressed. Russell rebuts this by saying it is as illogical as seeing rotten apples at the top of a crate and assuming there must be lots of good ones underneath to redress the balance.
He also observes that these arguments are rarely what actually motivates belief in God, which is more often due to childhood indoctrination and the desire for there to be someone powerful looking out for us.
The Character of Christ
Russell points out that few Christians take Christ's maxims seriously, such as turning the other cheek, which predates Christ anyway; his injunction against judgement, which hardly any Christian follows; and his command to give away one's belongings to the poor. These points Russell commends as good, if hard to live up to, before moving on to those teachings from Christ which he cannot agree with.
Defects in Christ's Teaching
Russell observes that we cannot know that Christ as depicted in the Gospels ever really existed, but argues that if he did then he cannot be considered the best and wisest of all men. The first reason given is that Christ appeared to believe, quite wrongly, that his second coming was imminent and would occur within the lifetimes of those he addressed.
The Moral Problem
A more significant failing in Christ's teachings is his belief in hell (Matt 23:33, Matt 12:32, Matt 13:41-42), and Russell compares his indignation towards doubters unfavorably with the calmer attitude of Socrates. He says "I think all this doctrine, that hell fire is a punishment for sin, is a doctrine of cruelty" and one which has caused a lot of unnecessary suffering.
This is the first somewhat valid argument that Russell makes, a lot of religion is corrupt, and it is corrupt for the reason that there are people who profess to be christian who are counterfeit and then also satan loves religion and uses it to discredit God and JesusThe Emotional Factor
Russell then considers the claim that we must refrain from criticizing religion because people would become evil and immoral without it, against which he argues that the religious have been equally cruel, that the cruelty of a society has tended to correlate with its religiosity, and that almost all moral progress has been made against the opposition of organized religion.
How the Churches have retarded Progress
Russell further argues that this is still the case today, as religion continues to cause suffering and impede progress by choosing "to label as morality a certain narrow set of rules of conduct which have nothing to do with human happiness", focusing instead on making people fit for heaven - and thereby quite unfit for the real world.
For Russell there is no difference between religion and Christianity, but there is a big differenceFear for the Foundation of Religion
Russell diagnoses religion as founded upon fear - of death and the unknown - which explains why it so often leads to cruelty. He instead advocates science as a foundation for overcoming fear and making the world a better place.
Right here Russell acknowledges God both as a law giver and His moral lawWhat We Must Do
Russell concludes on a positive note: "We want to stand upon our own feet and look fair and square at the world - its good facts, its bad facts, its beauties, and its ugliness: see the world as it is, and be not afraid of it. Conquer the world by intelligence... A good world needs knowledge, kindliness, and courage; it does not need a regretful hankering after the past, or a fettering of the free intelligence by the words uttered long ago by ignorant men."
If he created everything, how can there be people - or anything - that did not come from him?He want those who came from Him to return to Him…
not everyone comes from Him
The Bible begs to differ:He did not create everything.
How would one tell whether one came from Him, and if you did not, is seeking Him futile?He want those who came from Him to return to Him…
not everyone comes from Him
Yet again, I am discussing the biblical narrative and speaking within its context.If you truly believed that, you'd be begging Him for mercy; not turning your back on Him.
Unless you have some kind of death wish on your own head or something.
I see. So we're back to stuff for which you have absolutely no evidence.the tree is the torus concept i posted an representation of. it’s a physics and a consciousness, which is a negative mirror…an inversion and corruption of God’s reality… Adam partook of their mindset, and consciousness - and acquired that type of ‘thinking’ , which scripture calls the carnal mind.
Already answered.Then why aren't you acting like you believe it, instead of trying to get us to believe it first?
It's already been pointed out that you have zero support for this claim.Russell's critique of Christ is first directed against him personally, and objectionable as ignoring and sidelining the purpose of his visit to earth, involving bringing the gift of salvation to all men.
Russell rejects the need for any personal salvation as he prefers sin
He has my support, so you are wrong there. Perhaps if you said he has little support it would be better.It's already been pointed out that you have zero support for this claim.
Christ is my witness and his word is true.It's already been pointed out that you have zero support for this claim.
Sorry, that is still zero support.Christ is my witness and his word is true.
John 3:19 "And this is the verdict: The Light has come into the world, but men loved the darkness rather than the Light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come into the Light for fear that his deeds will be exposed."
So more than on now means zero?? Binary?Sorry, that is still zero support.