Nevertheless, Gal 3:13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the Law, having become a curse for us—for it is written, “CURSED IS EVERYONE WHO HANGS ON A TREE”—
This verse says nothing about saving. Not a word. It is about being redeemed. Do you have in your doctrine a definition for the Greek word or for the concept of being redeemed?
The poster above seems to be IMPLYING that "redemption" and "salvation" are different things. But as is his style, he REFUSES to actually explain the difference between them, but only to imply that they are different, and that anyone who disagrees with his (unstated) assumptions is necessarily "wrong", according to his view.
While I admit to never having done a formal word study, it has always been my understanding that redemption is a part of salvation, and that redemption is the MEANS by which God saves sinners.
Here are just a few passages I came across on this topic:
Col. 1:14 in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.
Luke 1:77 to give knowledge of salvation to his people
in the forgiveness of their sins,
Looks like they're talking about the same thing, does it not?
Rom. 3:24 and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,
We are justified because of being redeemed. Yet Scripture tells us:
Rom. 5:9 Since, therefore, we have now been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God.
This looks like it teaches a 100% correlation between "justified" and "saved", which means that there is a 100% correlation between "redeemed" and "saved".
1Cor. 1:30 And because of him you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, righteousness and sanctification and redemption,
Isn't this teaching that "righteousness" and "sanctification" and "redemption" are all components of salvation?
Gal. 4:5 to redeem those who were under the law, so that we might receive adoption as sons.
Redemption leads to sonship.
Can we be sons without being saved?
Eph. 4:30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.
We were sealed for "the day of redemption".
Isn't this when we are resurrected into our glorified bodies (Rom. 8:23)?
(Enquiring minds want to know...)
Eph. 1:13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,
Being "sealed" with whom we were "sealed", is associated with BOTH redemption (Eph. 4:30) and salvation (Eph. 1:13). Are they different sealings of different Spirits, or the same?
This poster has me on "ignore", so he likely won't even see this thread. It's a shame, since it might be useful for him to answer these questions. In particular, I would like to know what he thinks a Venn diagram of "Redemption" and "Salvation" would look like. Can one be saved without being redeemed? Can one be redeemed but never saved? The thought boggles the mind.
It seems to me that some people are making a "distinction without a difference". Arminians want to believe Christ died for EVERY SINGLE INDIVIDUAL (giving everyone "opportunity"), but since not all are saved, there must necessarily be some sort of difference between "redemption" and "salvation", by which many claim that Christ died for ALL sins except for the sin of unbelief, which is unBiblical on its face.