Saved through the cross

dingoling. said:
It is not my schedule. We have been purchased and are God's. We are "created in Christ Jesus for good works which God prepared beforehand to be our way of life."
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Yes, it is GOD who enables us to do good works, but they are done IN Jesus Christ. IE, IN faith, IN salvation, not FOR salvation.

Not all of us will be required to suffer egregiously for our faith, in this life, but may live a life of faith in relative peace, and die peacefully in Christ Jesus. However, everyone will know some kind of suffering in this life, whether illness, losing loved ones, acts of violence, etc.
dingoling. said:
I can only hope that God would consider me worthy of being crucified.
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If you are worthy, it is not on account of what you did, but what Jesus Christ did on your behalf, which is yours by faith.
 
dingoling. said:
It is not the cross that saves? What does save?
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Paul uses the cross as a sort of shorthand for the Gospel and what Jesus did for us on that cross. But what Jesus did for us ON that cross does. Grace through faith in Jesus Christ and what He did for us on that cross is what saves us, not the actual cross itself.
 
Bonnie said:
Yes, it is GOD who enables us to do good works, but they are done IN Jesus Christ. IE, IN faith, IN salvation, not FOR salvation.

Not all of us will be required to suffer egregiously for our faith, in this life, but may live a life of faith in relative peace, and die peacefully in Christ Jesus. However, everyone will know some kind of suffering in this life, whether illness, losing loved ones, acts of violence, etc.

If you are worthy, it is not on account of what you did, but what Jesus Christ did on your behalf, which is yours by faith.
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Yes, God enables us to do good works. But that enabling is part of the covenant. It is not like it is optional.

We boast in our sufferings "knowing that suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character, and character produces hope..." " Others were tortured, refusing to accept release, in order to obtain a better resurrection. "
 
dingoling. said:
Yes, God enables us to do good works.
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He enables those who are His thru the rebirth. catholics know nothing about that because the rcc doesn't teach about it. It is not being sprinkled with water while a C priest says a few words.

dingoling. said:
But that enabling is part of the covenant.
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one becomes part of the new covenant in Him thru the rebirth - which the rcc does not teach about.

dingoling. said:
It is not like it is optional.
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no, it isn't - it makes them His, part of His body, His church.

so why doesn't the rcc teach it? catholics who do experience it will no longer believe what the rcc teaches and will leave the rcc. they will hunger and thirst for Christ and His word.
 
mica said:
He enables those who are His thru the rebirth. catholics know nothing about that because the rcc doesn't teach about it. It is not being sprinkled with water while a C priest says a few words.


one becomes part of the new covenant in Him thru the rebirth - which the rcc does not teach about.


no, it isn't - it makes them His, part of His body, His church.

so why doesn't the rcc teach it? catholics who do experience it will no longer believe what the rcc teaches and will leave the rcc. they will hunger and thirst for Christ and His word.
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The Catholic Church does teach it.
 
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