Scripture repeatedly describes Jesus as Divine

[Nathan P]

LOL! "The child" was given His name before He was ever even conceived.

"On the eighth day, when it was time to circumcise the child, he was named Jesus, the name the angel had given him before he was conceived."

When does it say he was named and not when the name had been given? And you keep ducking the issue that this is all on earth when humans were involved. Show us where before the Word became flesh that there was an entity named Jesus?

 

[imJRR]

Nope - I'm not ducking anything, Nathan. Here's how and why that's true:
WHEN did the angel give Him the name "Jesus"?
Before He was ever even conceived. Luke 1:31 and 35 speak of her conceiving as being yet in the future.
What name did Mary give Him?
The name that the angel gave Him before He was ever even conceived.
Luke 2:21: "He was named 'Jesus', the name given to Him by the angel before He was conceived in the womb."
Black print on white page.

 

[Nathan P]

Nope - I'm not ducking anything, Nathan. Here's how and why that's true:
WHEN did the angel give Him the name "Jesus"?
Before He was ever even conceived. Luke 1:31 and 35 speak of her conceiving as being yet in the future.
What name did Mary give Him?
The name that the angel gave Him before He was ever even conceived.
Luke 2:21: "He was named 'Jesus', the name given to Him by the angel before He was conceived in the womb."
Black print on white page.

I agree it speaks of her conceiving in the future. And when it says you shall have a son and you shall name him Jesus that is speaking about the future. Since she had not had the son yet he could not have been named Jesus until he was born.

 

[imJRR]

LOL! He was given His name before He was ever even conceived.

Luke 2:21: ...He was named Jesus, the name the angel had given Him before He was conceived."

 

[Nathan P]

LOL! He was given His name before He was ever even conceived.

Luke 2:21: ...He was named Jesus, the name the angel had given Him before He was conceived."

No it does not say that and you know it. You want to say what you want it to say. It says from the nkjv " and when the 8 days were completed for the circumcision of the child, his name was called Jesus, the name given by the angel before he was conceived". It does not say the name the angel had given him before he was conceived. The name was given by the angel to his humans parents and after the circumcision he was named Jesus.

 

[imJRR]

LOL! The above has already been refuted.


You'll deny that, of course - Because that's ALL your posts do - Deny Scripture.

 

[Nathan P]

LOL! The above has already been refuted.


You'll deny that, of course - Because that's ALL your posts do - Deny Scripture.

No I refuted you and I quoted the nkjv and it says after the eight days were completed for the circumcision his name was called Jesus the name given by the angel before he was conceived. It does not say the name given to him by the angel before he was conceived. You have been majorly refuted and you need to accept it. You understand 8 days passed after his birth before he was named Jesus?

 

[imJRR]

LOL! Nope - You haven't refuted anything.

New International Version
On the eighth day, when it was time to circumcise the child, he was named Jesus, the name the angel had given him before he was conceived.

New Living Translation
Eight days later, when the baby was circumcised, he was named Jesus, the name given him by the angel even before he was conceived.

Berean Standard Bible
When the eight days until His circumcision had passed, He was named Jesus, the name the angel had given Him before He had been conceived.

Berean Literal Bible
And when eight days to circumcise Him were fulfilled, then His name was called Jesus, which He had been called by the angel before He was conceived in the womb.

 

[Nathan P]

LOL! Nope - You haven't refuted anything.

New International Version
On the eighth day, when it was time to circumcise the child, he was named Jesus, the name the angel had given him before he was conceived.

New Living Translation
Eight days later, when the baby was circumcised, he was named Jesus, the name given him by the angel even before he was conceived.

Berean Standard Bible
When the eight days until His circumcision had passed, He was named Jesus, the name the angel had given Him before He had been conceived.

Berean Literal Bible
And when eight days to circumcise Him were fulfilled, then His name was called Jesus, which He had been called by the angel before He was conceived in the womb.

All of those say on the eighth day or eight days later his name was called Jesus. Lots of parents give their children a name before they are conceived and that is no different. And you have to cherry pick bibles to find some to make it say what you want.

 

[Nathan P]

LOL! Your post show NOTHING but mere and repeated denial and running away from the biblical record.
Absolutely 100% "the usual" for your posts.

The angel gave His name to Mary before He was ever even conceived.
When He was born, Mary gave Him the name He had already been given before He was ever even conceived.
That's the biblical record of Luke 1:31-35 and 2:21. And any honest person with even a modicum of reading comprehension ability very, very easily sees this.

Exactly it was given to her to name him when he was born. Like you say it was given to her and not him.

 

[imJRR]

LOL! Nope.
WHEN did the angel give Him the name "Jesus"?
Before He was ever even conceived. Luke 1:31 and 35 speak of her conceiving as being yet in the future.
What name did Mary give Him?
The name that the angel gave Him before He was ever even conceived.

 

[WhatIsTruth]

The Deity of Jesus Christ: Jehovah’s Witnesses obviously deny Jesus is God, but how can they do this when Scripture repeatedly describes Jesus as Divine? The totality of scripture teaches Jesus is God. Take a look at this brief summary of the Biblical evidence:

Jesus Claimed to Be God
He Prefaced His Statements as Though He Was God
He Identified Himself with God’s Own Name (“I Am”)
He Said that He and the Father Were from the Same World
He Talked as Though He Was Equal with God
He Said That He and God Were One

Jesus Demonstrated that He Had the Nature of God:
He Demonstrated Omniscience
He Demonstrated Omnipresence
He Demonstrated Omnibenevolence
He Demonstrated Omnipotence

Jesus Was Worshiped as God by Those Who Knew Him:
The wise men worshiped him from the moment He was born
The leper worshiped Him at his healing
The synagogue ruler worshiped Him
The disciples worshiped him in the boat
The Canaanite woman worshiped Him
The mother of James and John worshiped Him
The blind man worshiped Him at his healing
The women worshiped Him at the empty tomb
The disciples worshiped Him at the Ascension

Also, The New World Translation has deleted Acts 8:37 because it proves that Jesus Christ is God. Here is what the King James and New International Version says in Acts 8:37.

• King James Bible: And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
• New International Version: Some manuscripts include here Philip said, “If you believe with all your heart, you may.” The eunuch answered, “I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.”

After Jesus ascended, the apostles stunned both Jew and Roman by proclaiming Jesus as “Lord”. And the apostles did the unthinkable and worshipped Jesus, even praying to him as their God.

Stephen prayed, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit” as he was being stoned to death. (Acts 7:59). The apostles, most of whom were martyred, passed on their knowledge of Jesus to the early church fathers who carried on their message into the next generation.

Ignatius Bishop of Antioch: Ignatius died about 110 A.D. He was a disciple of the Apostle John, and was appointed Bishop of Antioch by the Apostle Peter himself. He wrote about the lords 2nd coming, "Look for him that is above the times, him who has not times, him who is invisible". Only God is without time, eternal and invisible. In numerous other places in his letter to Polycarp he states "Jesus is God", "God incarnate"

Polycarp, also a pupil of the Apostle John, was tried before the Roman proconsul for worshipping Jesus as Lord. While the frenzied crowd shouted for his blood, the Roman judge demanded he proclaim Caesar as Lord. But Polycarp went to the stake, rather than renounce Jesus as his Lord

Clement of Rome in 96 A. D. also taught Jesus’ divinity, saying, “We ought to think of Jesus Christ as of God.” (2nd Epistle of Clement to the Corinthians 1:1)

Tertullian (AD 150–225): For God alone is without sin; and the only man without sin is Christ, since Christ is also God.

Justin Martyr (AD 100–165): Permit me first to recount the prophecies, which I wish to do in order to prove that Christ is called both God and Lord of hosts.

Jehovah’s Witnesses obviously deny Jesus is God, but how can they do this when Scripture repeatedly describes Jesus as Divine? The totality of scripture teaches Jesus is God. Take a look at this brief summary of the Biblical evidence:

According to John 2:19-21 Jesus raised His own body from the dead but the bible is clear that the Father raised Jesus from the dead and so did the Holy Spirit.

 

[Nathan P]

LOL! Nope.
WHEN did the angel give Him the name "Jesus"?
Before He was ever even conceived. Luke 1:31 and 35 speak of her conceiving as being yet in the future.
What name did Mary give Him?
The name that the angel gave Him before He was ever even conceived.

When it says you shall have a son that means she had not had the son. Likewise when it then says you shall name him Jesus he had not been named Jesus. Meaning only when he was born was he to be named Jesus. You have to hang onto this as you know the trinity is toast if you do not make it say what you want.

 

[imJRR]

LOL! The text says He was given and had the name before He was ever even conceived.

 

[Nathan P]

LOL! The text says He was given and had the name before He was ever even conceived.

No it does not as Luke 1:31 from the nkjv says you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a son and shall call his name Jesus. She had not conceived and thus no son was born yet to name Jesus.

 

[imJRR]

LOL! The above has already been answered and refuted - more than once. That you don't like or accept the answer means nothing.

 

[Nathan P]

LOL! The above has already been answered and refuted - more than once. That you don't like or accept the answer means nothing.

You have never refuted anything as I just proved what the text says that you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a son and shall call him Jesus. I can not help you if you do not understand that a son had not yet been born and only when he is born will he be named Jesus. And how many times do you have to be told to prove Jesus existed before humans were involved and not go on with your refuted claims about after humans were involved?

 

[imJRR]

LOL! Yes, Nathan - You've been refuted. All of your mere denials of that are nothing.

 

[Nathan P]

LOL! Yes, Nathan - You've been refuted. All of your mere denials of that are nothing.

Afraid it is you who has been refuted many times because again when it says you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a son she had not yet conceived and the child could not have been named until he was born. Again you are dealing when humans are involved and you will not attempt to prove Jesus existed before humans were involved or before the Word became flesh because you know you have no chance of proving he (Jesus) existed before the Word became flesh.

 

[imJRR]

LOL! All your above post does is continue with your totally silly denials of what the text and shows.
And no - I haven't been speaking about "When humans are involved". Any honest person who's been reading my posts knows full well that I've been dealing with more than that.
The verses say and show that He was given the name before Mary even conceived. When Mary named Him, she gave Him the name that the angel had already given Him before He was ever even conceived. That's what the text says and shows. All your posts have EVER done is pathetically deny, deny, deny. It's all your posts have ever done and ever can do. You have repeatedly, repeatedly, repeatedly exposed yourself as being nothing more than a denier of Scripture.