Scripture repeatedly describes Jesus as Divine

Nathan P

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LOL! :ROFLMAO: All your above post does is continue with your totally silly denials of what the text and shows.
And no - I haven't been speaking about "When humans are involved". Any honest person who's been reading my posts knows full well that I've been dealing with more than that.
The verses say and show that He was given the name before Mary even conceived. When Mary named Him, she gave Him the name that the angel had already given Him before He was ever even conceived. That's what the text says and shows. All your posts have EVER done is pathetically deny, deny, deny. It's all your posts have ever done and ever can do. You have repeatedly, repeatedly, repeatedly exposed yourself as being nothing more than a denier of Scripture.
Yes you are talking about when humans were involved because you keep saying about when she would conceive. No the angel had not already named him because the angel said you shall name him Jesus. I said you have to prove Jesus existed before humans were involved because you say Jesus existed before there were any humans? You can not do that and the trinity is toast.
 

imJRR

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LOL! :ROFLMAO: No, I am talking about when the ANGEL was involved. Any HONEST person who reads my post and the references very, VERY easily sees that.
The angel gave Him the name before He was even conceived - That is EXACTLY what Luke 2:21 SAYS, and the ONLY thing your posts have EVER done and do is deny it. You have repeatedly, repeatedly, repeatedly exposed yourself as being nothing more than a denier of Scripture. It has been and is both absolutely hilarious and absolutely pathetic to watch.
 

Nathan P

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LOL! :ROFLMAO: No, I am talking about when the ANGEL was involved. Any HONEST person who reads my post and the references very, VERY easily sees that.
The angel gave Him the name before He was even conceived - That is EXACTLY what Luke 2:21 SAYS, and the ONLY thing your posts have EVER done and do is deny it. You have repeatedly, repeatedly, repeatedly exposed yourself as being nothing more than a denier of Scripture. It has been and is both absolutely hilarious and absolutely pathetic to watch.
I know what you were talking about and that was proven wrong because the angel said you shall name him Jesus. My point is since you all say Jesus was here before there was an earth, is you have to prove he was here before there was an earth or the trinity is toast?
 

imJRR

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LOL! :ROFLMAO: If you knew what I was talking about - which is when the ANGEL was involved, and NOT "when humans were involved" as you wrote - Then you openly LIED when you said "you are talking about when humans were involved."

Thank you for SO VERY CLEARLY showing and proving that you openly LIED in your other post.
 

Nathan P

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LOL! :ROFLMAO: If you knew what I was talking about - which is when the ANGEL was involved, and NOT "when humans were involved" as you wrote - Then you openly LIED when you said "you are talking about when humans were involved."

Thank you for SO VERY CLEARLY showing and proving that you openly LIED in your other post.
You do not understand that 2 things are being talked about and I proved you wrong and then I asked my question since you act like you proved your point and that is now to prove he was here before there ever was an earth since you say he was here before there was an earth?
 

imJRR

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LOL! :ROFLMAO: Oh, I DO understand:
You wrote: You are talking about when humans were involved
I wrote: No, I am talking about when the ANGEL was involved. Any HONEST person who reads my post and the references very, VERY easily sees that.
You then wrote that you knew what I was talking about.
If you knew what I was talking about - which is when the ANGEL was involved, and NOT "when humans were involved" as you wrote - Then you openly LIED when you said "you are talking about when humans were involved."

Again - Thank you for SO VERY CLEARLY showing and proving that you openly LIED in your other post.
 

keiw

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The Deity of Jesus Christ: Jehovah’s Witnesses obviously deny Jesus is God, but how can they do this when Scripture repeatedly describes Jesus as Divine? The totality of scripture teaches Jesus is God. Take a look at this brief summary of the Biblical evidence:

Jesus Claimed to Be God
He Prefaced His Statements as Though He Was God
He Identified Himself with God’s Own Name (“I Am”)
He Said that He and the Father Were from the Same World
He Talked as Though He Was Equal with God
He Said That He and God Were One

Jesus Demonstrated that He Had the Nature of God:
He Demonstrated Omniscience
He Demonstrated Omnipresence
He Demonstrated Omnibenevolence
He Demonstrated Omnipotence

Jesus Was Worshiped as God by Those Who Knew Him:
The wise men worshiped him from the moment He was born
The leper worshiped Him at his healing
The synagogue ruler worshiped Him
The disciples worshiped him in the boat
The Canaanite woman worshiped Him
The mother of James and John worshiped Him
The blind man worshiped Him at his healing
The women worshiped Him at the empty tomb
The disciples worshiped Him at the Ascension

Also, The New World Translation has deleted Acts 8:37 because it proves that Jesus Christ is God. Here is what the King James and New International Version says in Acts 8:37.
  • King James Bible: And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
  • New International Version: Some manuscripts include here Philip said, “If you believe with all your heart, you may.” The eunuch answered, “I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.”
After Jesus ascended, the apostles stunned both Jew and Roman by proclaiming Jesus as “Lord”. And the apostles did the unthinkable and worshipped Jesus, even praying to him as their God.

Stephen prayed, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit” as he was being stoned to death. (Acts 7:59). The apostles, most of whom were martyred, passed on their knowledge of Jesus to the early church fathers who carried on their message into the next generation.

Ignatius Bishop of Antioch: Ignatius died about 110 A.D. He was a disciple of the Apostle John, and was appointed Bishop of Antioch by the Apostle Peter himself. He wrote about the lords 2nd coming, "Look for him that is above the times, him who has not times, him who is invisible". Only God is without time, eternal and invisible. In numerous other places in his letter to Polycarp he states "Jesus is God", "God incarnate"

Polycarp, also a pupil of the Apostle John, was tried before the Roman proconsul for worshipping Jesus as Lord. While the frenzied crowd shouted for his blood, the Roman judge demanded he proclaim Caesar as Lord. But Polycarp went to the stake, rather than renounce Jesus as his Lord

Clement of Rome in 96 A. D. also taught Jesus’ divinity, saying, “We ought to think of Jesus Christ as of God.” (2nd Epistle of Clement to the Corinthians 1:1)

Tertullian (AD 150–225): For God alone is without sin; and the only man without sin is Christ, since Christ is also God.

Justin Martyr (AD 100–165): Permit me first to recount the prophecies, which I wish to do in order to prove that Christ is called both God and Lord of hosts.

Jehovah’s Witnesses obviously deny Jesus is God, but how can they do this when Scripture repeatedly describes Jesus as Divine? The totality of scripture teaches Jesus is God. Take a look at this brief summary of the Biblical evidence:
How simple it is for one to Google John 1:1 in Greek--They find facts-The word in Greek for the true God ends in v=God, as in the 2nd line at John 1:1, The word god small g ends in g like was given to the word in the last line. The saddest part of that is trinity scholars know its truth yet say nothing. Why you ask? Because hundreds of religions claiming to be christian would exposed as false religion, billions of $$$$ lost year after year would occur, not to mention 2 billion humans suing them for stealing their $$$ because they know the facts of John 1:1. How sad for those listening to those blind guides.
 

imJRR

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keiw, there has NEVER BEEN any post by you anywhere that gives the slightest whisper of indication that you know Greek in any sort of adequate manner. For you to post the above is nothing but open, blatant fraud. "The usual", in other words.
 

Nathan P

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keiw, there has NEVER BEEN any post by you anywhere that gives the slightest whisper of indication that you know Greek in any sort of adequate manner. For you to post the above is nothing but open, blatant fraud. "The usual", in other words.
Why would you need to know Greek when Google will tell you what it means? Like you have been told type in on Google is John 1: 1c in the qualitative tense and you will see many of them that say yes and it means there he has a quality like God but is not God. They know that because of the Greek word structure.
 

imJRR

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LOL! :ROFLMAO: I haven't been talking about John 1:1 in my posts - and you know this.
Your bringing it up shows and proves that YOU are the one running away.

Thanks for doing that.
But - It's really no surprise at all.
 

Nathan P

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LOL! :ROFLMAO: Oh, I DO understand:
You wrote: You are talking about when humans were involved
I wrote: No, I am talking about when the ANGEL was involved. Any HONEST person who reads my post and the references very, VERY easily sees that.
You then wrote that you knew what I was talking about.
If you knew what I was talking about - which is when the ANGEL was involved, and NOT "when humans were involved" as you wrote - Then you openly LIED when you said "you are talking about when humans were involved."

Again - Thank you for SO VERY CLEARLY showing and proving that you openly LIED in your other post.
When the angel was involved humans were involved correct?
 

imJRR

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LOL! :ROFLMAO: Nathan, we've already been through this. :ROFLMAO:
Post #146 shows what happened.
You have very clearly shown and proven that you openly LIED.

You can go ahead and run away now to whatever deluded imaginations you have regarding John 1.
 

Nathan P

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LOL! :ROFLMAO: No, I am talking about when the ANGEL was involved. Any HONEST person who reads my post and the references very, VERY easily sees that.
The angel gave Him the name before He was even conceived - That is EXACTLY what Luke 2:21 SAYS, and the ONLY thing your posts have EVER done and do is deny it. You have repeatedly, repeatedly, repeatedly exposed yourself as being nothing more than a denier of Scripture. It has been and is both absolutely hilarious and absolutely pathetic to watch.
No it says you will have a son and you will name him Jesus. He had not been named yet. You are not answering that when the angel was involved there humans were involved at the time too?
 

imJRR

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LOL! :ROFLMAO: Luke 2:21 flat out declares that Mary gave Him the name that the angel had already given Him before He was ever even conceived. That's what the text SAYS. All your posts have EVER done is pathetically deny, deny, deny. It's all your posts have ever done and ever can do. You have repeatedly, repeatedly, repeatedly exposed yourself as being nothing more than a denier of Scripture.

You have also been caught blatantly LYING. Post #146 shows this.
 
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Nathan P

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LOL! :ROFLMAO: Luke 2:21 flat out declares that Mary gave Him the name that the angel had already given Him before He was ever even conceived. That's what the text SAYS. All your posts have EVER done is pathetically deny, deny, deny. It's all your posts have ever done and ever can do. You have repeatedly, repeatedly, repeatedly exposed yourself as being nothing more than a denier of Scripture.

You have also been caught blatantly LYING. Post #146 shows this.
You have been told many times it says the angel says you will name him Jesus. You will means it has not happened yet.
 

imJRR

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LOL! :ROFLMAO: You have been shown repeatedly that Luk 2:21 says that what Mary did was give Him the name that the angel had already given Him before He was ever even conceived. That's what the text SAYS.

Just keep on running away, Nathan.

And remember - You have also been caught blatantly LYING. Post #146 shows this.
 

Nathan P

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LOL! :ROFLMAO: You have been shown repeatedly that Luk 2:21 says that what Mary did was give Him the name that the angel had already given Him before He was ever even conceived. That's what the text SAYS.

Just keep on running away, Nathan.

And remember - You have also been caught blatantly LYING. Post #146 shows this.
Post 146 says you are wrong. And that is when the angel was talking to Mary on earth. You have been told many times to provide proof of one who existed named Jesus before humans were involved and you keep resorting to your unsupported scripture.
 

imJRR

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:ROFLMAO: Nope. Post 146 proves YOU LIED.
As for "unsupported Scripture" - :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Luke 2:21 says that what Mary did was give Him the name that the angel had already given Him before He was ever even conceived. That's what the text SAYS.
 
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