Greetings again Pythons,
I am a bit confused as to what you are exactly saying here. One passage that I was prompted to reconsider by our discussion is:
Hebrews 11:8–16 (KJV): 8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. 9 By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise: 10 For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God. 11 Through faith also Sara herself received strength to conceive seed, and was delivered of a child when she was past age, because she judged him faithful who had promised. 12 Therefore sprang there even of one, and him as good as dead, so many as the stars of the sky in multitude, and as the sand which is by the sea shore innumerable. 13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. 14 For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country. 15 And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned. 16 But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.
There is much we could discuss here, and perhaps there are some aspects where we differ. I have underlined what I will mention. Abraham died and did not receive the promise of the Land, but he will be resurrected and inherit the Land. To me there is no hint that Abraham is alive and already entered into his inheritance of the Land. The other feature is that God is not ashamed to be called their God. I suggest that part of this is the declaration in Exodus 3:6 which Jesus quotes as proof of the resurrection. The word "ashamed" here is a figure of speech, emphasisng the opposite, that God takes great delight with Abraham, as does Jesus with his spiritual brethren / children Hebrews 2:11.
In my youth my Sunday School teacher constantly taught us concerning the promise of the Land to Abraham in Genesis 13:14-15, and he then followed this up by Galatians 3:8,16,26-29. Even in his Sunday evening talks he used to end them with these verses, so much so, when nearing the end of his talk he paused, and as I was almost drifting off as he was a dry speaker, one of my mates elbowed me and said about 10 seconds before the speaker, "now in conclusion, we will turn to Genesis 13:14-15. In my many years I have never forgotten this sequence, possibly more by the means of the elbow jab. But in a way this summarises our difference. I believe that Abraham is dead, awaiting the resurrection in order to inherit the Land. He does not have an immortal soul in heaven.
By quoting this, you are opening up a bigger subject concerning the meaning of the word “soul” and how this word is used in the OT and the NT. I suggest that it does not represent an immaterial, immortal part of man which continues to exist after death and goes to heaven or hell at death. Please note in a similar passage to the one you quote, the same word is translated “soul” and “life”.
Mark 8:34–37 (KJV): 34 And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. 35 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel’s, the same shall save it. 36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? 37 Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
Also the word “soul” is defined in the following account of the creation of man, and Paul relates this word to the natural or physical body when he speaks about the resurrection, rather than immortal souls.
Genesis 2:7 (KJV): And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
1 Corinthians 15:42–45 (KJV): 42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: 43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: 44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. 45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
Whatever is the actual reality, we are nevertheless given the picture that God the Father is seated upon his throne, and Jesus the Son of God, a glorified human is now seated at his right hand. Also the Angels appeared and were mistaken for men at first.
Kind regards
Trevor