SDAs refuse to discuss the KJVO myth...

robycop3

Active member
I challenged some seventh day adventists whom I'm in discussions with, elsewhere on this site, to come to this sub-forum to discuss their KJVO myth, & it appears none of them have the wherewithal nor the knowledge to do so. That's just more ecidence of the seven-day-adfibbers being a quasi/pseudo-Christian cult.
 

e v e

Well-known member
the kjv - like most translations - is a mess. in the case of kjv intentionally corrupted.
 

e v e

Well-known member
@robycop3

a human being, translating while listening to the Self and its own speculations and not God, true could be making a simple mistake.

but... the self (a foreign entity) can intentionally steer that soul to listen to it instead of listening to God...
 

Buzzard

Active member
Matt.13:33
Another parable spake he unto them;
The kingdom of heaven is like unto
leaven,
which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal,
till the whole was leavened
.

Paul says;
Know ye not, that a little Leaven Leaveneth the whole

34 All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables;
and without a parable spake he not unto them
:

35 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet,
saying, I will open my mouth in parables;
I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world
.

36 Then Jesus sent the multitude away,
and went into the house:

What happens to those that eat of the Bread Leavened ????
:unsure:
Know ye not
 

Buzzard

Active member
36 Then Jesus sent the multitude away,
and went into the house:

And then will I profess unto them,
I never knew you: depart from me,
ye that work iniquity
.

Question #2:
what are these "works of iniquity" that those that eat of the Leavened Bread do
 
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Lottan

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what are these "works of iniquity" that those that eat of the Leavened Bread do?
My mind, drawn to is:

“Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?”

And reminded am I of Balaam in Moses and Shemei in prophets: think you he that witness number two be? Of certainty I not be, yet ruminate I shall.
 
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e v e

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My mind, drawn to is:

“Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?”

And reminded am I of Balaam in Moses and Shemei in prophets: think you he that witness number two be? Of certainty I not be, yet ruminate I shall.
the two witnesses will be the 144k after they are restored to their eden bodies (the glorified body adam received in eden) and to eden nature (the natural world of eden, its land and sky —— not the current fallen version of cosmology).

120000 - israel

24000 - judah


after israel and judah are restored, they will reurn to this earth to witness to many believers left behind (!), and to any who want to meet Him.
 
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Lottan

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ye that work iniquity.

Question #2:
what are these "works of iniquity" that those that eat of the Leavened Bread do
Claiming to act of Christ, but in reality of Christ they not be. Casting stones at saints perhaps they do? Stephen comes to mind; Balaam and Shemei almost but not quite. Ruminating I am. A curious question this: who are they? Although the what be clear. The second witness in Moses shall be found, but where?

Perhaps discuss on a different thread @Buzzard we should. Being respectful of @robycop3’s OP we should be.
 
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Buzzard

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OK, my bad,
back to the OP

Matt.16:13
When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi,
he asked his disciples,
saying,
Whom do
men say that I the Son of man am?

14 And they said,
Some say that thou art John the Baptist:
some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophet
s.

(Many Teachers ye shall have,
AH, Yas just be one of the great teachers, a Rabbis, maybe a Prophet)

15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
16 And Simon Peter answered and said,
Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
KJV


And Simon Peter answered and said,
Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

Many Teachers ye shall have, but Masters only one,
and that is Christ

Lk.6:39
The disciple is not above his master:
but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.
KJV

Teachers Many
Lk.6:39
A disciple is not above his teacher,
but everyone when he is fully trained will be like his teacher.

lets see
shall be as his master. -- <vs>-- like his teacher.
:unsure:
shall be as his master. -- <vs>-- like his teacher.
:unsure:
shall be as his master. -- <vs>-- like his teacher.
:eek:
shall be as his master. -- <vs>-- like his teacher.


Lk. 10:35
And behold, a lawyer stood up to put him to the test,
saying,
Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?”
ESV

And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him,
saying,
Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
KJV

Now "Who" could that Lawyer be
 

Bob Carabbio

Well-known member
Translation: At all cost, we must pretend the man made KJV is perfect.
That's the "Jump to the absurd Manoever". The KJV isn't even close to being "PERFECT". But for those used to the Elizabethan English,it's as good as Any Translation out there. ALL translations are "Man Made" to the same degree, and it's the HOLY SPIRIT Who guides those who READ THE WORD into Spiritual TRUTH, not "Theologians".
 

robycop3

Active member
That's the "Jump to the absurd Manoever". The KJV isn't even close to being "PERFECT". But for those used to the Elizabethan English,it's as good as Any Translation out there. ALL translations are "Man Made" to the same degree, and it's the HOLY SPIRIT Who guides those who READ THE WORD into Spiritual TRUTH, not "Theologians".
Yes, I've said that many times-all Bible translations, any language, are the products of God's perfect word being handled by imperfect men.

But I started this thread because there are some SDAs in other sub-forums whohollered at me for quoting Scriptures from modern versions, so I challenged them to prove me wrong & started this thread for them to do it. But apparently, they're "all talk, no walk", as many cultists are.
 
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Lottan

Guest
OK, my bad,
back to the OP

Matt.16:13
When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi,
he asked his disciples,
saying,
Whom do
men say that I the Son of man am?

14 And they said,
Some say that thou art John the Baptist:
some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophet
s.

(Many Teachers ye shall have,
AH, Yas just be one of the great teachers, a Rabbis, maybe a Prophet)

15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
16 And Simon Peter answered and said,
Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
KJV


And Simon Peter answered and said,
Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

Many Teachers ye shall have, but Masters only one,
and that is Christ

Lk.6:39
The disciple is not above his master:
but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.
KJV

Teachers Many
Lk.6:39
A disciple is not above his teacher,
but everyone when he is fully trained will be like his teacher.

lets see
shall be as his master. -- <vs>-- like his teacher.
:unsure:
shall be as his master. -- <vs>-- like his teacher.
:unsure:
shall be as his master. -- <vs>-- like his teacher.
:eek:
shall be as his master. -- <vs>-- like his teacher.


Lk. 10:35
And behold, a lawyer stood up to put him to the test,
saying,
Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?”
ESV

And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him,
saying,
Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
KJV

Now "Who" could that Lawyer be
Choose master will I. In Moses and the Prophets the stories are found believe I; including this debate. Most insightful this post is.
 
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