sealing ......
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Janice Bower
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I wasn't sealed and doubted that such an ordinance came from God. The missionaries hadn't taught me that, the Bible didn't teach it, It wasn't taught in sacrament meeting, Sunday School or Relief Society. I asked a temple Mormon why married couples needed to do that and she didn't want to talk about it. I was also told by someone that if the Bishop "called" you to a position, that call was from God. I believed God would confirm the calling to me.
No one gave me a manual to read, no one told me to read D&C 132. My husband wasn't "worthy."
Visiting teachers came by unannounced once a month. One of them was very nosy with veiled criticism:
"Why is your sister's house tidier than yours?"
"Why do you have five cook books on your table?"
"I see you have your sewing machine out. Why are you following the directions in the pattern?"
No one gave me a manual to read, no one told me to read D&C 132. My husband wasn't "worthy."
Visiting teachers came by unannounced once a month. One of them was very nosy with veiled criticism:
"Why is your sister's house tidier than yours?"
"Why do you have five cook books on your table?"
"I see you have your sewing machine out. Why are you following the directions in the pattern?"
e v e 21
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Ephesians 1 - “When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit.”
Rev 14:1, the 144k, “I looked, and behold, the Lamb was standing on Mount Zion, and with Him, one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His name and the name of His Father written on their foreheads.”
that's the only sealing I know of...by God's Spirit.
Rev 14:1, the 144k, “I looked, and behold, the Lamb was standing on Mount Zion, and with Him, one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His name and the name of His Father written on their foreheads.”
that's the only sealing I know of...by God's Spirit.
Not looking to bag on the Mormons ......
But ..... the way I saw it was them seeking to propagate a subservient paper work on other peoples.
Looking for the Mormons to respond, and call it glory.
Sealed up for not being.
It was a death sentence to me ......
Never to be able to be ..... but for the Mormons.
I did not like it.
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I talked to a Mormon missionary a couple of years ago.
Explained to him I was baptized Mormon but not indoctrinated. Never considered myself a Mormon.
The discussion went on, and he ended up trying to tell me, I was then an apostate. An apostate, which I found rather curious; wanted to take a poke at him. ........ who was he to define my being, or not being for that matter.
What happened to the right of first refusal.
Maybe that is just for the Mormons.
Sigh .......
Oh the chains that they aspire too, the chains.
Can I be Mr. Mormon missionary guy?
Sure I name you an apostate.
Kind of sad, and funny at the same time.
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Janice Bower
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I understand. One woman asked me why I hadn't been to the temple; none of her business! And Mormon women were not supposed to dishonor their husbands in any way.; I had observed that. What was I supposed to say?
At least I had great home teachers as far as being helpful when my husband was out of state for his father's funeral and one of of my children needed to go to the hospital. No one had better home teachers.
My friend who had introduced me to Mormonism went to BYU and wrote me a 35 page letter telling me why; the letter arrived before I was baptized. She later left Mormonism because of her experience at BYU, but didn't tell me she had left. A few years later she sent me a wedding announcement of her wedding at a Greek Orthodox church. I was shocked.
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I'm looking for the Mormon's to take back their spiritual resources that was never me.
52 years of carrying around something that was never me. (From their "sealing baptism")
Maybe I should charge them for NOT allowing me to be.
scripture does say, roll up your recompense. (I take that as God saying ...... look what you have done..... pay the man)
They sought to make me a servant, but I am not them.
Never was.
but I did serve ...... forced servitude.
Sealed for never being. More like a spiritual salve that was never them.
Thus, the recompense.
And BTW, don't call me an apostate.
Never was you guys.
52 years of carrying around something that was never me. (From their "sealing baptism")
Maybe I should charge them for NOT allowing me to be.
scripture does say, roll up your recompense. (I take that as God saying ...... look what you have done..... pay the man)
They sought to make me a servant, but I am not them.
Never was.
but I did serve ...... forced servitude.
Sealed for never being. More like a spiritual salve that was never them.
Thus, the recompense.
And BTW, don't call me an apostate.
Never was you guys.
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Right on point Eve.
Never to matter again.
Your"grace".
Perhaps I cannot be latter.
Your grace.....
Never to live ....... never to be .....
Such was life on my not being their tree.
"Your grace".
The souls they came and the souls they went .....
Never to be was their regret.
"Your grace".
FeW_ArE_ChOseN
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for now we see darkly and through a glass
we judge what we see by what we don't know
we don't know like God - down here below
we don't know at all - sometimes so lowww
in our thinking and in part. and in pieces....
in fragments. at this point of view or another
this way and that, that cap or that raat
this high or that low. i know, no... I KNOWW
you're wrong, and i'm not. you're from
this planet or not - not. where i did NOT
look to. today, remember - the this other thought
that waits, sits, in the - other brain cell.
remembered tomorrow or 5 years from now
and other - thoughts from millenia ago
or just growing up, and or then growing old
all separated and here, or there. other lands
other cares. today i think this, tomorrow i'll
learn that. today i'll not know - what i forgot
cause too slow. not like the light - full of colors
7 or more? and no others. if thy - i - be single
will not wonder - what we don't know, forgot
go wandering in this thought, or that theory
this dogma or that query. this wisdom but
forgot another. these verses - for this doctrine
but i don't want another. like yesterday, years
ago. we had a different one. but now in other
thoughts grow, change, follow..... we follow a
different track. missing light, missing colors
how many years wander and never know, ponder.
we judge what we see by what we don't know
we don't know like God - down here below
we don't know at all - sometimes so lowww
in our thinking and in part. and in pieces....
in fragments. at this point of view or another
this way and that, that cap or that raat
this high or that low. i know, no... I KNOWW
you're wrong, and i'm not. you're from
this planet or not - not. where i did NOT
look to. today, remember - the this other thought
that waits, sits, in the - other brain cell.
remembered tomorrow or 5 years from now
and other - thoughts from millenia ago
or just growing up, and or then growing old
all separated and here, or there. other lands
other cares. today i think this, tomorrow i'll
learn that. today i'll not know - what i forgot
cause too slow. not like the light - full of colors
7 or more? and no others. if thy - i - be single
will not wonder - what we don't know, forgot
go wandering in this thought, or that theory
this dogma or that query. this wisdom but
forgot another. these verses - for this doctrine
but i don't want another. like yesterday, years
ago. we had a different one. but now in other
thoughts grow, change, follow..... we follow a
different track. missing light, missing colors
how many years wander and never know, ponder.
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That is what I was asking the Mormons about.
IMO, I am still carrying their spiritual baggage. (they hand it out like baggage handlers.)
IMO ..... they know it. It is part of their doctrine.
Notice they are not denying it.
So I complain.
The fact of the matter is, they want me to carry around their spiritual bs priority assets.
Which was NEVER me.
for their priority ......
So I challenge them .......
NEVER NEEDED THEM ......
and they know that as well.
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They tend to a permanent them winning.
Even their son's cannot be.
With out not being / conforming.
Janice Bower
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I only asked to have my name removed so they wouldn't contact me. I received a letter telling me to repent and informing me that I could no longer wear temple garments (Mormon underwear) which I never had anyway, I would not be allowed to give talks, etc.
Janice Bower
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That's inaccurate and strange.
They like being in charge.
Typical Mormon power play.
Let me guess, "but you are still allowed to give tithes".
LOL ......
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Janice Bower
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Actually ex-Mormons are NOT allowed to pay tithes but they can save the money to pay after they are re-baptized.
