Indeed it was; which is why I commented.
That is a definition. What is relevant to this discussion about abortion is the standard English definition of murder which is an unjustified taking of a life.
Blatantly and completely false. Consult any dictionary. I know, I know, you'll just ignore it and invent your own definition.
The standard English definition of murder is
illegal killing of a human being, whether you like it or not.
No that is not correct. The relevant definition is the regular English language definition of murder which is an unjustified homicide.
That is false. You are making up definitions to suit yourself.
This is a question about what ought to be the law. Appealing to the current status of the law simply avoids the question.
No, that is not the question. If you want to have that discussion, go do it. The question is whether or not abortion is murder. It is not, by definition, where it is legal.
That is not the simple English definition of the word, that is the legal definition of the word, which is not the primary meaning of murder.
It is the simple English definition of the word, found in every dictionary.
What I like is completely irrelevant to the standard English definition of murder.
More nonsense. You are only too eager to ignore the standard English definition.
You are like talking to a post. You get these crazy ideas in your head and you can't seem to get them out.
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Here is the English definition of the word murder.
"The killing of another person without justification or excuse, especially the crime of killing a person with malice aforethought or with recklessness manifesting extremeindifference to the value of human life." [
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Note that the unqualified requirement for murder is "The killing of another person without justification or excuse."
You get funnier and funnier. Did you have to hunt hard for a definition that suits you?
By contrast:
Do I need to go on? Oh, and just to help you I bolded the relevant words in the definitions above - you know, words like 'crime' and 'unlawful'.
Your fiction of a 'standard English definition' which suits you is just that - a fiction.
You said, "legal killing can't be murder by definition." Illegality is obviously not a necessary requirement for murder.
Illegality is a necessary requirement for murder, as shown above. Abortion cannot be murder in any jurisdiction where it is legal.