Should rape by deception be legal for trans people? To have sex without telling they are trans.
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But it was you guys who have this position, stating what laws say not me, as I said the laws are different so if we choose laws we have contradicting ones.
So yes I am the arbiter, and you are wrong. ... you have made your bed now lie in it.
Ok I will leave it for others to read
Under the law, yes. Morally, no. Caveat emptor.
Then your friend is a moron.
Temujin
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Thistle
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It obfuscates the fact that murder does not depend on a law code existing.
It is thefreedictionary.com one of the first things that comes up in the search results. But however that may be, we know that this is a correct definition, and we know that it doesn't depend on their being alone code. So it refute your argument, the fact that it exists refutes your argument. The reader will note that you're not denying the truth of the definition, and that would be the only thing that would save your argument. You can't deny the truth of the definition, so your argument is blown to smithereens, it's extinct.
No that's not blatantly false. Without the concept of "murder" which is an unjustified killing of a human, it would be impossible to write a law against murder. Obviously the concept preceded the law, making it the primary definition which in turn is used to draft the law.
Are you believe you can disqualify valid definitions of a word. You can't. So until you figure that out you really don't understand how a dictionary works.
Your statement "abortion can't be murder by definition" is false, because I've given you the definition of murder showing it to be false. The only way to save the truth of your statement is to show that the definition that I've demonstrated is false. You can't do that so your argument is extinct.
The truth of your statement never turned on whether there is a legal definition of murder. That's not in dispute, never has been, it's a relevant to the discussion.
Do you understand that this is not a popularity contest? Because from this comment that's not clear.
I'm address that above. And in so doing I showed very clearly there's nothing stupid or dishonest about it.
So you are denying the definition of murder that I cited from thefreedictionary.com website? Because that is the only way your negation here can be saved.
We just showed above that it's not so I don't know what do you think you're achieving with this comment.
The opinion of an expert… how did you put it? Oh yes, "vacuously stupid or simply dishonest."
"Abortion can't be murder by definition" is not a fact.
Mr Laurier
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Alas, while your point was obvious, some people want to be oblivious.
Authentic Nouveau
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Ugly atheist Richard dawkins asks what's the big deal about mild pedophilia.
Temujin
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Non Sequitur. Feeble attempt to shift the goal posts.
How? You made detogatory comments about Dawkins as an atheist. You playing arbiter again?
Temujin
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And the churches ignored strong paedophilia by their clergymen.
The subject doesnt need an expert since it is logic, science and observable reality.
However Dawkins is right of course when he points out that a man can no more be a woman under the deception of transwoman than a white person be black.
On the contrary that is how it works for you! The subject is right and it just so happens we both agree on it.
This is exactly the problem with your worldview which cause you to agree with what people claim that suits you rather than looking at the evidence to see whether you and they are actually right. Thats why you believe a man who claims he is a transwoman is a transwoman when the evidence shows he is a man
I dont know what evidence you are thinking if not the one being discussed?
As to the one being discussed you yourself presented the definition of biological sex as chromosomes and anatony and thus restrooms are segregated by sex and often structure to suit anatomy. In the case of black people its the skin colour that determines they are black as opposed to skin colour that determines white people are white, and its the chromosomes and anatomy that makes a man a man and not a transwoman because a woman has different chromosomes and anatomy.