So Where Do All The Differences Come From?

RayneBeau

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Do Born-Again Christians interpret the Bible one way, and the Roman Catholics another way? Are the differences not really about the differences in their interpretation, but of authority? For born-again Christians the authority is the Word of God. For Roman Catholics, the authority is the Roman Catholic Church facility, with it's headquarters located in Vatican City, Rome, Italy.
 

ding

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Do Born-Again Christians interpret the Bible one way, and the Roman Catholics another way? Are the differences not really about the differences in their interpretation, but of authority? For born-again Christians the authority is the Word of God.
So when Born-Again Christians interpret the Bible differently and this difference creates a division among them which one's authority is the Bible and which one's is not?

For Roman Catholics, the authority is the Roman Catholic Church facility, with it's headquarters located in Vatican City, Rome, Italy.
Thank God for the authority he gave to the Pope to lead his flock into all the truth.

One Lord, one faith, one baptism,....one Pope...
 

RayneBeau

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The emphasis on the Bible is the focus in non-RC churches. One of the very visual differences between Roman Catholicism and non-RC faiths is found even in their differing architectures. In the Roman Catholic churches, the altar is their central focal point. That is where the on-going sacrifice of Jesus Christ is believed by Roman Catholics to be renewed in their Mass.
On the contrary, in non-RC churches the pulpit is the center of attention. The pulpit is essentially a stand to hold the Bible in a position where it is easy for the preacher to read because the reading and explanation of the word of God is central.
So when Born-Again Christians interpret the Bible differently and this difference creates a division among them which one's authority is the Bible and which one's is not?


Thank God for the authority he gave to the Pope to lead his flock into all the truth.

One Lord, one faith, one baptism,....one Pope...
It's more than obvious that the Roman Catholic Church, wavers in deciding whether or not to submit to the authority of the Holy Word of God, or that of the Roman Catholic Pope. What the RCC believes to be right or wrong continuously changes with the passing of time.
 

ding

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The emphasis on the Bible is the focus in non-RC churches. One of the very visual differences between Roman Catholicism and non-RC faiths is found even in their differing architectures. In the Roman Catholic churches, the altar is their central focal point. That is where the on-going sacrifice of Jesus Christ is believed by Roman Catholics to be renewed in their Mass.
On the contrary, in non-RC churches the pulpit is the center of attention. The pulpit is essentially a stand to hold the Bible in a position x=where it is easy for the preacher to read because the reading and explanation of the word of God is central.

It's more than obvious that the Roman Catholic Church, wavers in deciding whether or not to submit to the authority of the Holy Word of God, or that of the Roman Catholic Pope. What the RCC believes to be right or wrong continuously changes with the passing of time.
Yes, we do submit to the authority of the Pope because Jesus gave him authority. It is sad that other Christians reject that authority.

The Holy Spirit guides us into all the truth and not all truth was given to us in scripture alone. Throughout Christianity numerous issues had to be settled and scripture alone wasn't what settled them.
 
Yes, we do submit to the authority of the Pope because Jesus gave him authority. It is sad that other Christians reject that authority.

The Holy Spirit guides us into all the truth and not all truth was given to us in scripture alone. Throughout Christianity numerous issues had to be settled and scripture alone wasn't what settled them.
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RayneBeau

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Yes, we do submit to the authority of the Pope because Jesus gave him authority. It is sad that other Christians reject that authority.

The Holy Spirit guides us into all the truth and not all truth was given to us in scripture alone. Throughout Christianity numerous issues had to be settled and scripture alone wasn't what settled them.
Really, how quickly you dump your church's man-made doctrines which you blame the Holy Spirit for leading your church into. Tell us, why did the Holy Spirit lead your Roman Catholic institution in to having the communion service in the language of the people, which at one time the RCC considered it a Protestant heresy? Is the Holy Spirit confused, or is it the man-made religious system known as the Roman Catholic Church? Not so long ago, the Mass had to be said in Latin universally - but no more! Was that change made by the leading of the Holy Spirit also? Hear the truth - the Bible, the Holy Word of God and the leading of the Holy Spirit, does NOT change and therefore will not always agree with a constantly changing church.
 

mica

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ding said:
Yes, we do submit to the authority of the Pope because Jesus gave him authority. It is sad that other Christians reject that authority.
scripture no where names any man as a 'pope' (or supreme leader of all believers). no pope = no authority. he didn't exist so no authority given to the non existing him by Jesus.

Christians don't accept that authority because they are Christians (followers of Christ). Christ is the head of our (His) church. Those who do accept that authority are followers of man. Any man who claims to be the 'leader of all Christians (believers)' is not a Christian. If he was he would know that Christ is the leader of all Christians and the Head of His own church.

Peter was not the head / leader of all Christians in the NT. He was 1 of the 12 sent out to take the message of Christ and salvation to the Jews.

The Holy Spirit guides us into all the truth and not all truth was given to us in scripture alone. Throughout Christianity numerous issues had to be settled and scripture alone wasn't what settled them.
what the RCC teaches you is not all truth, very little of it is truth (supported by scripture).
 

balshan

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So when Born-Again Christians interpret the Bible differently and this difference creates a division among them which one's authority is the Bible and which one's is not?


Thank God for the authority he gave to the Pope to lead his flock into all the truth.

One Lord, one faith, one baptism,....one Pope...
No you forgot Mary co everything. You left her out, that is what a pope gives you. False doctrines, even the lie that God gave the authority to the pope to lead his flock into all the truth.

Yep discernment shows the RCC is not the NT church.
 

balshan

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Yes, we do submit to the authority of the Pope because Jesus gave him authority. It is sad that other Christians reject that authority.

The Holy Spirit guides us into all the truth and not all truth was given to us in scripture alone. Throughout Christianity numerous issues had to be settled and scripture alone wasn't what settled them.
No Jesus didn't. The Holy Spirit guides believers not evil popes.
 

balshan

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Really, how quickly you dump your church's man-made doctrines which you blame the Holy Spirit for leading your church into. Tell us, why did the Holy Spirit lead your Roman Catholic institution in to having the communion service in the language of the people, which at one time the RCC considered it a Protestant heresy? Is the Holy Spirit confused, or is it the man-made religious system known as the Roman Catholic Church? Not so long ago, the Mass had to be said in Latin universally - but no more! Was that change made by the leading of the Holy Spirit also? Hear the truth - the Bible, the Holy Word of God and the leading of the Holy Spirit, does NOT change and therefore will not always agree with a constantly changing church.
Oh we remember Limbo, no eating meat on Fridays, do not touch the host even with your tongue, when purgatory was the same as hell - but it was better because you knew you would get out, now it is just a warm shower, remember when all non RCs went to hell.
 

ding

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No Jesus didn't. The Holy Spirit guides believers not evil popes.
Matthew 16:23, "But he turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; for you are setting your mind not on divine things but on human things.”

So why do you accept Peter's letters as the inspired word of God?
 

balshan

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Matthew 16:23, "But he turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; for you are setting your mind not on divine things but on human things.”

So why do you accept Peter's letters as the inspired word of God?
Hmm so you are implying that Peter stayed being used by satan. Gotcha. Those evil popes were nothing like Peter. Please tell me did Peter constantly commit sexual sins, did he have orgies on a regular bases as some of your popes have done. No he did not, he fell then he rose from the ashes and followed Jesus. Peter said - "Never, Lord!" he said. "This shall never happen to you!" before Pentecost. It is like Pentecost was a nothing event to some RCs.

I mean your evil popes are after Pentecost and have all those so called graces from the sacraments and the indelible mark etc. They just show that RC so called sacraments do nothing at all. By the way the fruit of those popes show they did not know Jesus. I mean they might have cried out to Him on their death beds that I don't know. But at the time they were unsaved.

I accept Peter's writings because being saved I understand that Peter knew he had made sinned and repented and followed the Lord. He did not follow an evil man.
 
Do Born-Again Christians interpret the Bible one way, and the Roman Catholics another way? Are the differences not really about the differences in their interpretation, but of authority? For born-again Christians the authority is the Word of God. For Roman Catholics, the authority is the Roman Catholic Church facility, with it's headquarters located in Vatican City, Rome, Italy.
Actually, for "born again" Protestants their authority is themselves. If the Holy Ghost was guiding each Protestant in their interpretation of sacred scripture, you wouldn't have thousands of contradicting sects and Protestants who deny the divinity of Christ or who don't believe in the Trinity or who believe that "His Spirit" is feminine or any other such wacky nonsense.
 

mica

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Matthew 16:23, "But he turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; for you are setting your mind not on divine things but on human things.”

So why do you accept Peter's letters as the inspired word of God?
because they are... Peter wrote to the Jews. but there's still good (inspired) info in his letters. It is good to know the differences. also in seeing the difference between how / what Peter taught vs what Paul taught, and knowing why they're different. Did Peter teach about the 'body of Christ' ?

the Jews were very different than the Gentiles. knowing that even an apostle got things wrong here and there (and had to be corrected, why and where they went from that point). There are lessons to seen (and learned) in all of those things. It also shows their humanity - just normal men struggling with perceived ideas / beliefs and then being an example of the truth being shown to us. Where / Who did they look to for the truth to be believed and followed? Who did they depend on? What was their source of knowledge and strength?

Did Peter point the Jews to Paul? Did Paul point the Gentiles to Peter? or did they point the people to Christ? to God and His word?
 

Mike McK

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Actually, for "born again" Protestants their authority is themselves. If the Holy Ghost was guiding each Protestant in their interpretation of sacred scripture, you wouldn't have thousands of contradicting sects and Protestants who deny the divinity of Christ or who don't believe in the Trinity or who believe that "His Spirit" is feminine or any other such wacky nonsense.
So, once again, we have the dishonest Catholic who claims there are "thousands of denominations", even though that's been debunked, that these denominations all contradict one another, even though he can't give any examples, and that there are "Protestants" who deny the deity of Christ and the Trinity, even though belief in the deity of Christ and the Trinity are defining doctrines of Christianity and denial of them would disqualify the denier from Christianity.

Have you ever heard the phrase, "Put up or shut up"?
 
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mica

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Actually, for "born again" Protestants their authority is themselves. If the Holy Ghost was guiding each Protestant in their interpretation of sacred scripture, you wouldn't have thousands of contradicting sects and Protestants who deny the divinity of Christ or who don't believe in the Trinity or who believe that "His Spirit" is feminine or any other such wacky nonsense.
this shows that 1 - you have no understanding of being born again.

and 2 - that you have no understanding of 'protestants'. catholics continue to lump all non catholics into one and labeling them 'protestants'.. some non catholics are believers and others (like catholics) are not.

the 'sin' of protestants that catholic claim is - is just not being catholic. they don't buy into the lies of the RCC. otoh, there are lots of other 'religious leaders' out there who have made up their own religion also - like the LDS, JWs etc. There are many and the RCC is just one of them.

not being catholic is no more of a sin than it is to eat meat on a Friday or miss a Mass (to sleep late, spend time alone in prayer, spend time with their kids etc). God did not proclaim either of those to be sin. They are burdens put onto catholics by men, not by God.

catholics submit to a man, not to God.

what man do you believe you will account to on judgment day? your priest? your pope? Peter?
 

RayneBeau

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Yes, we do submit to the authority of the Pope because Jesus gave him authority. It is sad that other Christians reject that authority.

The Holy Spirit guides us into all the truth and not all truth was given to us in scripture alone. Throughout Christianity numerous issues had to be settled and scripture alone wasn't what settled them.
Did the Holy Spirit guide the Pope of the Roman Catholic Church into all of it's 'traditions' that are in contrast with the Bible? Seems that began to form after 300 AD, in the time of the Roman Emperor Constantine, and they gradually developed their man-made 'traditions' until they became sacred dogmas of the Roman Catholic Church, although a few of the anti-biblical doctrines are very recent. Was that all a work of the Holy Spirit guiding your church?
 

jonathan_hili

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Do Born-Again Christians interpret the Bible one way, and the Roman Catholics another way? Are the differences not really about the differences in their interpretation, but of authority? For born-again Christians the authority is the Word of God. For Roman Catholics, the authority is the Roman Catholic Church facility, with it's headquarters located in Vatican City, Rome, Italy.
I think people are inclined to interpret the Bible (or, more precisely, different parts of the Bible) depending on many factors, such as how they've been taught, the society in which they live, their knowledge of the language, literary conventions and customs of a particular time represented, etc. Both Catholics and Protestants can be woefully inaccurate when it comes to biblical interpretation. That just points, I think, to the importance of having a teaching office that guides the faithful.
 
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