Socialism VS Capitalism

[HillsboroMom]

"the redistribution of wealth usually causes a decrease in the activities that produce wealth, leaving generous people with much less to be generous with."

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I hear this asserted often, but have yet to see any concrete proof of it.

The Soviet Union is sometimes lifted up as "proof," but there's no evidence that it was the communist system that caused the lack of resources. Russia has struggled with a dearth of resources under monarchies, and actually its current "light" socialism is showing much more promise than anything it had pre-revolution.

And it doesn't explain why most of Western Europe is doing so well under socialism.

 

[DeSanto]

So your saying I would be wise not to follow Jesus??? You sure you are Christian?

Jesus is God. A key Christian tenet.

DeSanto said:

How many socialisms are there? It seems there’s one for each ideologue out there.

How many Christian denominations are there?

You compare socialism to a religion. Worship gov much?

Not necessarily forceable. Ever watch Ghandi? Nice movie. Its usually the government that uses force against dissent first.

Ghandi was a cia asset.

You dont think capitalism uses any means necessary?

This would not justify your doing the same thing. 🙄

A wise one once said… Two wrongs don’t make a right.

 

[inertia]

I hear this asserted often, but have yet to see any concrete proof of it.

The Soviet Union is sometimes lifted up as "proof," but there's no evidence that it was the communist system that caused the lack of resources. Russia has struggled with a dearth of resources under monarchies, and actually its current "light" socialism is showing much more promise than anything it had pre-revolution.

And it doesn't explain why most of Western Europe is doing so well under socialism.

Some of the most compelling examples in recent history were displayed by observing the privatization of once staunch socialist economies. Specifically the former satellite nations within the Soviet Bloc - after the breakdown of the U.S.S.R., and post-Mau modernization of the Chinese government.

- Deregulation and pricing had to be allowed based on microeconomics
- Tariffs with import/export barriers were removed
- Once wholly state owned enterprises had to be sold
- Investment restrictions had to be loosened
- Once powerful authorities within the state relinquished their interest in the means of production

When political actors (bureaucracies) get their hands into the privatization process, noneconomic factors take precedence and slow down the potentially robust economics of capitalism.

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[wiseones2cents]

Jesus is God. A key Christian tenet.

I said"Well as a partaker of the Holy Spirit, don't you think following Jesus would be my goal?"

and YOU replied with.

"I don’t follow men nor do I place my trust in them. You would be wise not to, as well."

Sounds like you were saying Jesus is a man to me. And I should not follow Him???

You compare socialism to a religion. Worship gov much?

Socialism is a economic system that is compatible with Christianity(which is the religion). I crave justice and righteousness. 2 things your government does not represent. It is YOU that worships money and materialism.

Ghandi was a cia asset.

LOL. So the CIA was trying to destabilize British run India? LMAO! Ghandi died in 48 and the CIA was formed in 47. It's safe to say Ghandi came BEFORE the CIA.

The point is Ghandi used civil disobedience(Non-Violence). Did it actually free India from Britain, most likely not. But it did help them gain some autonomy.

This would not justify your doing the same thing. 🙄

LOL . It's not the same thing. We are not guilty of anything. THEY ARE!. You know what I didnt get as a child? How Superman caught Lex Luther hundreds of times only to release him so he could kill and/or threaten the lives of millions of people.

A wise one once said… Two wrongs don’t make a right.

Freeing ourselves and making sure we are not enslaved again is not a wrong in my eyes. Try again.

 

[HillsboroMom]

Ghandi was a cia asset.

That is demonstrably false.

 

[BMS]

I hear this asserted often, but have yet to see any concrete proof of it.

The Soviet Union is sometimes lifted up as "proof," but there's no evidence that it was the communist system that caused the lack of resources. Russia has struggled with a dearth of resources under monarchies, and actually its current "light" socialism is showing much more promise than anything it had pre-revolution.

And it doesn't explain why most of Western Europe is doing so well under socialism.

I think Holodomor is a good example of where marxism couldnt provide and didnt want outside help. Maybe marxism rather than socialism

 

[wiseones2cents]

I hear this asserted often, but have yet to see any concrete proof of it.

The Soviet Union is sometimes lifted up as "proof," but there's no evidence that it was the communist system that caused the lack of resources. Russia has struggled with a dearth of resources under monarchies, and actually its current "light" socialism is showing much more promise than anything it had pre-revolution.

And it doesn't explain why most of Western Europe is doing so well under socialism.

Russia is one of the richest countries in the world and the USSR was by far the richest. It did not collapse because of any monetary system. It collapsed for many reasons outside of socialism. Like the loss of workers, due to both world wars. Russia lost more soldiers in the wars by far than any other country. That's alot of man power. And thus was unable to maintain the USSR. Then they took a beating in Afghanistan and their soldiers stopped fighting and turned on the government. The Russian elitist fled to western countries(I thought they were enemies)???Hmmmmmm.