Soft Model of Libertarian Free Will

fltom

Well-known member
This guys gospel is akin to Catholicism. Merited grace. Wow!!! He is not orthodox!
There you go again falsifying what I believe

Show where I have ever stated grace is merited

You cannot do it

There is a name for a tactic like that and it is not something a Christian should practice

How about you answer what you were asked instead

It appears you do deny the New covenant teaches unbelieving, unforgiven, unjustified children of wrath are indwelt by the Spirit turning them to believers

Is that correct ?
 

fltom

Well-known member
He's not going to answer, that would mean he would have to "humble himself." ✔ 🍖
Wrong I already answered

anything contrary to scripture is heresy

Are you going to confirm what was asked of you

It appears you do deny the New covenant teaches unbelieving, unforgiven, unjustified children of wrath are indwelt by the Spirit turning them to believers

Is that correct ?

why the hesitation to reply ?
 

Reformedguy

Well-known member
Wrong I already answered

anything contrary to scripture is heresy

Are you going to confirm what was asked of you

It appears you do deny the New covenant teaches unbelieving, unforgiven, unjustified children of wrath are indwelt by the Spirit turning them to believers

Is that correct ?

why the hesitation to reply ?
Where does it say that's heresy?
 

preacher4truth

Well-known member
Wrong I already answered

anything contrary to scripture is heresy

Are you going to confirm what was asked of you

It appears you do deny the New covenant teaches unbelieving, unforgiven, unjustified children of wrath are indwelt by the Spirit turning them to believers

Is that correct ?

why the hesitation to reply ?
I've already answered you about my belief on that issue. What did I say?

Stop pretending, stop bearing false witness, stop your asinine games.

Your gospel of merited saving grace for humbling yourself is straight-up heresy. In fact, your teaching is exactly Catholicism on that issue. It is contrary to Scripture, contrary to grace, contrary to the gospel. By your own admittance that makes you a heretic.
 

fltom

Well-known member
I've already answered you about my belief on that issue. What did I say?

Stop pretending, stop bearing false witness, stop your asinine games.

Your gospel of merited saving grace for humbling yourself is straight-up heresy. In fact, your teaching is exactly Catholicism on that issue. It is contrary to Scripture, contrary to grace, contrary to the gospel. By your own admittance that makes you a heretic.
Sorry there was no false witness just a request for a confirmation which for some reason you did not want to confirm previously

So going by your words I want to thank you for denying the requirements necessary in Reformedguy's interpretation of Ezekiel 36:26, 27 if one is going to believe what verse 27 states

Previously you had lent him support by saying giving an order to Ezekiel 36 would refute my position

but now you deny the Holy Spirit is given to make unbelievers into believers which is what his interpretation would require

if one acknowledges the plain fact verse 27 is speaking of the indwelling of the Spirit

Now if you want to talk about false witness that would be your claim that I hold to merited grace

I deny such
 

fltom

Well-known member
He's not even making any sense. Explain what point he is trying to make.

Is he saying we teach that unbelievers are indwelt by the Spirit? I've never believed anything of the sort.
Good for that is what Reformedguy's interpretation of Ezekiel 36:26, 27 would require

once one realizes verse 27 is speaking of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit

I wanted you to deny it which you did after an apparent mis-start

and I never spoke of a Calvinist belief and dealt solely with your own comments
 
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