TibiasDad
Well-known member
The moral standard itself must be moral by definition!This is like saying “A God that is not” compared to an external standard “doesn’t make sense”!
It does not apply to “The Standard” itself.
Doug
The moral standard itself must be moral by definition!This is like saying “A God that is not” compared to an external standard “doesn’t make sense”!
It does not apply to “The Standard” itself.
That is falseThey always scream were taking him out of context. So, I have asked many times to no avail, in what context was the term "choice meats" used. I hope you like the sound of crickets
Wrong againThe context and meaning is clear, and they also believe the same, as their damnable heresy of conditional election, which they preach proves. Now if only they were so humanly bold in their flesh to admit salvation is a personal achievement as Leighton has stated. Nevertheless they are already there, as their teachings expose them as such, unbeknownst to them.
So God shows partiality then?That is false
I told you it had to do with certain reasons God favors some. Such as the humble and those that fear him
Psalm 25:14 (KJV)
14 The secret of the LORD is with them that fear him; and he will shew them his covenant.
James 4:6 (KJV 1900)
6 But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.
that is scripture. Had you actually listened to the original podcast you would have seen that but you read James White who had taken the quote out of context
Right, you believed so you merited God's choice. Good job lolWrong again
The context
Soft Model of Libertarian Free Will
This is like saying “A God that is not” compared to an external standard “doesn’t make sense”! It does not apply to “The Standard” itself. The moral standard itself must be moral by definition! Dougforums.carm.org
and no one holds salvation is a personal achievement. Man cannot save himself or Christ would not have needed to go to the cross.
God saves
And he saves those that believe
1 Corinthians 1:21 (KJV)
21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
You misrepresent those you criticize
No I just stated the oppositeRight, you believed so you merited God's choice. Good job lol
I know what you said. No one said it was a personal achievement. It is you meriting your election though right?No I just stated the opposite
Did you not read
and no one holds salvation is a personal achievement. Man cannot save himself or Christ would not have needed to go to the cross.
God saves
And he saves those that believe
1 Corinthians 1:21 (KJV)
21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
all the merit is in Christ not man
Do you have a problem with scripture ?So God shows partiality then?
He did not take it out of context. Again, in what context was that phrased asked? Still waiting
Wrong againI know what you said. No one said it was a personal achievement. It is you meriting your election though right?
Right, so He shows partiality then.Do you have a problem with scripture ?
I told you it had to do with certain reasons God favors some. Such as the humble and those that fear him
Psalm 25:14 (KJV)
14 The secret of the LORD is with them that fear him; and he will shew them his covenant.
Do you disagree with this ?
It does not say he will save them. They still need to believe the covenant
James 4:6 (KJV 1900)
6 But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.
Do you disagree with this ?
again this is scripture
Now it does not say men are saved because they are humble but that God gives more grace
will you disagree with scripture ?
Had you actually listened to the original podcast you would have seen that but you read James White who had taken the quote out of context
Now can you state you personally heard the podcast and that it was about men earning their salvation ?
I did hear the podcast. I will ask again, in what context was that phrase used??Do you have a problem with scripture ?
I told you it had to do with certain reasons God favors some. Such as the humble and those that fear him
Psalm 25:14 (KJV)
14 The secret of the LORD is with them that fear him; and he will shew them his covenant.
Do you disagree with this ?
It does not say he will save them. They still need to believe the covenant
James 4:6 (KJV 1900)
6 But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.
Do you disagree with this ?
again this is scripture
Now it does not say men are saved because they are humble but that God gives more grace
will you disagree with scripture ?
Had you actually listened to the original podcast you would have seen that but you read James White who had taken the quote out of context
Now can you state you personally heard the podcast and that it was about men earning their salvation ?
How many times do you need to be toldI did hear the podcast. I will ask again, in what context was that phrase used??
Are you doubting God ?Right, so He shows partiality then.
Why does He give more grace to some and not others? More partiality?
Favors some in what context? Come on dude. Put or shut up. Favors some in what contextHow many times do you need to be told
The context was dealing with certain reasons why God favors some
and was supported with scripture
I have noted it multiple times
How is it you did not grasp that ?
Why does He give more grace to some and not others? And grace in what context? Not to believe right? You don't need it you have LFW right?Are you doubting God ?
Psalm 25:14 (KJV)
14 The secret of the LORD is with them that fear him; and he will shew them his covenant.
James 4:6 (KJV 1900)
6 But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.
Its scriptural
Are you doubti8ng God's word ?
When God gives more Grace to Believers, is the Grace more of the Bible; or some other type of Grace?Are you doubting God ?
Psalm 25:14 (KJV)
14 The secret of the LORD is with them that fear him; and he will shew them his covenant.
James 4:6 (KJV 1900)
6 But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.
Its scriptural
Are you doubti8ng God's word ?
Whatever he believes appropriateWhen God gives more Grace to Believers, is the Grace more of the Bible; or some other type of Grace?
When did He deem it appropriate?Whatever he believes appropriate
Its his perogativeWhy does He give more grace to some and not others? And grace in what context? Not to believe right? You don't need it you have LFW right?
Ask himWhen did He deem it appropriate?