Son of Man and Ancient of Days. = Trinity

Luke 3:23-38 that proves Jesus is descended from Adam like all other humans? Must not be God then.
And those discounts are of the same Spirit that God is.

Evidently Adam was the first man to receive spiritual savvy in Gen 3;22 and made into tGod same spiritual image that God is, and obviously there were people here before Adam learned of Gods Spirit, for his own child went into the land of Nod and took a wife there.
 
Yes He sprang from the tribe of Yahudah/Judah

But what you miss is:

Heb 7: 3 without father, without mother, without genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor end of life, but made like the Son of God, remains a priest continually.

He had no biological father or mother hence without genealogy. Nevertheless, to fulfill the Torah, He was born of a woman and by her marriage to Joseph, He was identified with the tribe of Judah.

Jews gave their tribal affiliation with Judah. But then all who dwelled in the land of Yahudah were called Jews But there are other 10 non-Jewish tribes living in their allotted lands of Israel.

All Jews were Israelites but not all Israelites were Jews. Hope you know this
He isn’t Melchizedek
His real mom is Mary a descendant of David through Nathan a son of David.
 
Yes He sprang from the tribe of Yahudah/Judah

But what you miss is:

Heb 7: 3 without father, without mother, without genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor end of life, but made like the Son of God, remains a priest continually.

He had no biological father or mother hence without genealogy. Nevertheless, to fulfill the Torah, He was born of a woman and by her marriage to Joseph, He was identified with the tribe of Judah.

Jews gave their tribal affiliation with Judah. But then all who dwelled in the land of Yahudah were called Jews But there are other 10 non-Jewish tribes living in their allotted lands of Israel.

All Jews were Israelites but not all Israelites were Jews. Hope you know this

You're missing the context. This is a comparison to Melchizedek. What is true for Melchizedek is also true for Jesus. It's not literal because Melchizedek isn't God. Therefore Jesus isn't God.
 
Paul's kinsmen according to the flesh is in contrast to Paul's kinsmen according the Spirit. In other words, in v3, Paul is making sure everyone knows he is talking about biology and not the Church. However, there is no justification whatsoever to say "and of their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ. God who is over all be blessed for ever. Amen.", if Jesus is just a man. "of their race...is the Christ" is all that needs to be said to designate biology as opposed to Spirit. So, why add the extra phrase? Oh yeah, because this one who is flesh is also "God who is over all be blessed for ever."

God Bless
In other words, your point does nothing to prove Jesus is God.
 
And those discounts are of the same Spirit that God is.

Evidently Adam was the first man to receive spiritual savvy in Gen 3;22 and made into tGod same spiritual image that God is, and obviously there were people here before Adam learned of Gods Spirit, for his own child went into the land of Nod and took a wife there.

Adam became "like God" when he "ate" the "fruit" from the "tree," something he was forbidden to do. It isn't literal fruit because God doesn't eat literal fruit to gain the knowledge of good and evil. The better question is, if it made them like God, then why didn't the serpent go ahead and eat some??
 
Paul's kinsmen according to the flesh is in contrast to Paul's kinsmen according the Spirit. In other words, in v3, Paul is making sure everyone knows he is talking about biology and not the Church. However, there is no justification whatsoever to say "and of their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ. God who is over all be blessed for ever. Amen.", if Jesus is just a man. "of their race...is the Christ" is all that needs to be said to designate biology as opposed to Spirit. So, why add the extra phrase? Oh yeah, because this one who is flesh is also "God who is over all be blessed for ever."
In other words, your point does nothing to prove Jesus is God.

Only if you choose to ignore the actual wording of the text. There is no justification whatsoever to say "and of their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ. God who is over all be blessed for ever. Amen.", if Jesus is just a man. "of their race...is the Christ" is all that needs to be said to designate biology as opposed to Spirit. So, why add the extra phrase? Oh yeah, because this one who is flesh is also "God who is over all be blessed for ever."

God Bless
 
Your really annoying!
Are you a christ like GM your bro??
The mother of the Son of Man.
The ways of Christ to be in you anointed of God yourself is always anoying to a mind that is carnal, of this world ,and not of Gods Spirit.

GM has a brother named Jesus, we have the same Father who is God.
 
Only if you choose to ignore the actual wording of the text. There is no justification whatsoever to say "and of their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ. God who is over all be blessed for ever. Amen.", if Jesus is just a man. "of their race...is the Christ" is all that needs o be said to designate biology as opposed to Spirit. So, why add the extra phrase? Oh yeah, because this one who is flesh is also "God who is over all be blessed for ever."

Go and read 2 Corinthians 5:16 to find out.

And then you won't need to be ignorant any longer.
 
Adam became "like God" when he "ate" the "fruit" from the "tree,"
Yes the same spiritual fruit that Jesus ate in Matt 3:16 and we all eat who is of God. Jesus sad take ye and eat ye all of it, get it inside you.
something he was forbidden to do.
And something that all religious are forbidden to do by their own laws that says no, you cant be like Him.
It isn't literal fruit because God doesn't eat literal fruit to gain the knowledge of good and evil.
It is Spiritual.
The better question is, if it made them like God, then why didn't the serpent go ahead and eat some??
Same reason these today do not partake of His Spirit, they are forbidden to by their laws of the creeds they are of, but a few has come to the knowledge of God as Adam did in Gen 3;22 to know this difference, so did Jesus in Matt 3:16 the same. Few who find His ways.

The first man Adam was of flesh just as Jesus was before Matt 3:16, and you and I are. That second man Adam who was of Gods Spirit became anointed of Gods same disposition to be in His same image, was of Spirit,

That first man Jesus who was of flesh, learned this same difference in Matt 3:16, and so do all today who has received that same knowledge as these learned from God Himself be in us.

One cant know God at all least he receive the same One as Adam did, Abraham did, Moses did, Jesus did, 120 did and all today do who has relieved in us the same Spirit of God as all of these received from Him no different at all.
 
Only if you choose to ignore the actual wording of the text. There is no justification whatsoever to say "and of their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ. God who is over all be blessed for ever. Amen.", if Jesus is just a man. "of their race...is the Christ" is all that needs to be said to designate biology as opposed to Spirit. So, why add the extra phrase? Oh yeah, because this one who is flesh is also "God who is over all be blessed for ever."

God Bless

Your goal posts keep moving. "According to the flesh" was your alleged proof that Jesus was God incarnate, but when the exact same language is applied to regular humans your interpretation changes. Your inconsistency just proves your bias; it has blinded you.
 
Only if you choose to ignore the actual wording of the text. There is no justification whatsoever to say "and of their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ. God who is over all be blessed for ever. Amen.", if Jesus is just a man. "of their race...is the Christ" is all that needs o be said to designate biology as opposed to Spirit. So, why add the extra phrase? Oh yeah, because this one who is flesh is also "God who is over all be blessed for ever."
Go and read 2 Corinthians 5:16 to find out.
And then you won't need to be ignorant any longer.

Is your goal to teach one how not to interpret Scripture? 2 Corinthians 5:16 is about how life in Christ has nothing to do with linage, race. Not only is this context drastically different from Romans 9, there is no meaningful application of such to Romans 9 apart from condemning Paul's usage of the phrase "according to the flesh". Talk about embarrassing yourself. If the best response you can muster is a condemnation of Paul's wording, what does that say about the strength of your position?

God Bless
 
Only if you choose to ignore the actual wording of the text. There is no justification whatsoever to say "and of their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ. God who is over all be blessed for ever. Amen." if Jesus is just a man. "of their race...is the Christ" is all that needs to be said to designate biology as opposed to Spirit. So, why add the extra phrase? Oh yeah, because this one who is flesh is also "God who is over all be blessed for ever."
Your goal posts keep moving. "According to the flesh" was your alleged proof that Jesus was God incarnate, but when the exact same language is applied to regular humans your interpretation changes. Your inconsistency just proves your bias; it has blinded you.

No, my point was that it makes no sense whatsoever to add "according to the flesh" in this context if Jesus was just a man. If Jesus was just a man, the text "of their race...is the Christ" communicates the exact same idea without any added complexity. However, it makes perfect sense to add "according to the flesh" if you are a Trinitarian, Arian or Oneness because all of them recognize Jesus as being more than just flesh.

Perhaps in the future, you should pay more attention to my actual argument is as opposed to assuming I'm contradicting myself.

God Bless
 
Rom.1:1 Paul, a slave of Jesus Christ and called to be an apostle, separated to God’s good news, 2 which he promised aforetime through his prophets in the holy Scriptures, 3 concerning his Son, who sprang from the seed of David according to the flesh, 4 but who with power was declared God’s Son according to the spirit of holiness by means of resurrection from the dead—yes, Jesus Christ our Lord, 5 through whom we received undeserved kindness and an apostleship in order that there might be obedience of faith among all the nations respecting his name
...9:3 For I could wish that I myself were separated as the cursed one from the Christ in behalf of my brothers, my relatives according to the flesh, 4 who, as such, are Israelites, to whom belong the adoption as sons and the glory and the covenants and the giving of the Law and the sacred service and the promises; 5 to whom the forefathers belong and from whom the Christ [sprang] according to the flesh: God, who is over all, [be] blessed forever. Amen.
 
He isn’t Melchizedek
His real mom is Mary a descendant of David through Nathan a son of David.
The Melkitsedek Priest who met Abraham with Bread and Wine was figurative of Yahusha Messiah. It came much before Mosaic Law.

That Melkitsedek Priest Who met Abraham wasn't from Abraham's descendant. His genealogy was unknown.

The author of the Hebrews likens him to The Son of God without father, without mother or any genealogy. The author particularly telling his Hebrew audience that The Son of God is not a biological son of any human born of Adam whether male or female.

Yes, the gospel accounts show Mary is the mother of Yahusha. But we have to understand that she is not the biological son of Mary but was supernaturally placed in her womb.

Mat 1:18 Now the birth of Yeshua Meshikha happened like this. His mother Maryam had been engaged to Yauseph, and before they came together, she was found to be with child from the Rukha d’Qudsha.

RCC didn't understand that the Child conceived by Mary is of the Holy Spirit. Thats why they called this as immaculate conception. It means Mary was without original sin and became biological mother of Yahusha.

The protestants and its branches carried over this baggage of a biological son without glorifying Mary.

The problem with biological son is that nothing that comes out of the dust of the earth is pure in itself and after sin came in to the world every human is contaminated with sin. Thats why Mary needed The Saviour herself she would give birth to supernaturally..

The differences of Theologies in Christendom has cone because of the ignorance that Yahusha Messiah wasn't biological Son of Mary but rather God was His Father and we know God doesn't procreate and The Son of God came by His own decree as The Father of Israel as His firstborn son.

It's also false that God joined Himself to the human flesh (again biological son). He didn't join but He became Man. Thats the simplicity of God. There is no division between His Deity and Humanity. God identified Himself as being joined to humanity as The Promised Seed of Abraham. Christendom can't digest this. Well, the scriptures are not written to anyone else but to Israel that came through Abraham, Isaac and Yacoub.
 
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