Sterilize Your Conscience

Dant01

Member
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Gen 3:22 . . And Jehovah God said: The man has now become like one of us,
knowing good and evil.

Actually, the Serpent had predicted that very thing.

Gen 3:5 . . God knows that when you eat [from the tree in the midst of the
garden] your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.

The "knowing" spoken of here is an intuitive kind of knowing rather than an
instructed knowing. In other words: prior to tasting the forbidden fruit, neither
Adam nor his wife had a conscience; which is at least part of the reason why the
pre-fruit days in the Garden are called the era of innocence.

Now, the problem is; this newly acquired conscience of theirs wasn't from God, it
was obtained from the Serpent who, we're told, has the power of death and the
ability to tamper with the human mind and body in ways not easily detected. (Heb
2:14, Luke 13:16, Mark 5:1-5, and Eph 2:2)

As such, humanity's sense of right and wrong is unreliable, Due to its satanic
nature rather than divine, the human moral compass easily deviates from true
north by means of emotional, social, cultural, and ethnical influences. We
rationalize a lot too.

Although humans are stuck with their unholy moral compass, it's possible to at
least sterilize it; and according to Heb 9:1-14, Christ's blood does this for us once
for all time; we never need to get our conscience sterilized ever again, i.e. the one
time is good for all time.
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Woody50

Active member
So, our conscience is Satanic? Did God--or, rather, DOES He--have any say in this? Or is He just reacting to Satan?

Just summarizing your post. Let me know if I'm wrong and correct my misunderstanding, if so.
 

Bob Carabbio

Well-known member
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Gen 3:22 . . And Jehovah God said: The man has now become like one of us,
knowing good and evil.

Actually, the Serpent had predicted that very thing.

Gen 3:5 . . God knows that when you eat [from the tree in the midst of the
garden] your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.

The "knowing" spoken of here is an intuitive kind of knowing rather than an
instructed knowing. In other words: prior to tasting the forbidden fruit, neither
Adam nor his wife had a conscience; which is at least part of the reason why the
pre-fruit days in the Garden are called the era of innocence.

Now, the problem is; this newly acquired conscience of theirs wasn't from God, it
was obtained from the Serpent who, we're told, has the power of death and the
ability to tamper with the human mind and body in ways not easily detected. (Heb
2:14, Luke 13:16, Mark 5:1-5, and Eph 2:2)

As such, humanity's sense of right and wrong is unreliable, Due to its satanic
nature rather than divine, the human moral compass easily deviates from true
north by means of emotional, social, cultural, and ethnical influences. We
rationalize a lot too.

Although humans are stuck with their unholy moral compass, it's possible to at
least sterilize it; and according to Heb 9:1-14, Christ's blood does this for us once
for all time; we never need to get our conscience sterilized ever again, i.e. the one
time is good for all time.
_
And just when you KNOW it can't get any more ridiculous - it does.
 

e v e

Well-known member
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Gen 3:22 . . And Jehovah God said: The man has now become like one of us,
knowing good and evil.

Actually, the Serpent had predicted that very thing.

Gen 3:5 . . God knows that when you eat [from the tree in the midst of the
garden] your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.

The "knowing" spoken of here is an intuitive kind of knowing rather than an
instructed knowing. In other words: prior to tasting the forbidden fruit, neither
Adam nor his wife had a conscience; which is at least part of the reason why the
pre-fruit days in the Garden are called the era of innocence.

Now, the problem is; this newly acquired conscience of theirs wasn't from God, it
was obtained from the Serpent who, we're told, has the power of death and the
ability to tamper with the human mind and body in ways not easily detected. (Heb
2:14, Luke 13:16, Mark 5:1-5, and Eph 2:2)

As such, humanity's sense of right and wrong is unreliable, Due to its satanic
nature rather than divine, the human moral compass easily deviates from true
north by means of emotional, social, cultural, and ethnical influences. We
rationalize a lot too.

Although humans are stuck with their unholy moral compass, it's possible to at
least sterilize it; and according to Heb 9:1-14, Christ's blood does this for us once
for all time; we never need to get our conscience sterilized ever again, i.e. the one
time is good for all time.
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yes...about acquiring the Self, and the body as tampered. Not as God made the eden body.

i cant comment on the last paragraph...(sterilizing etc.)
 

shnarkle

Well-known member
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Gen 3:22 . . And Jehovah God said: The man has now become like one of us,
knowing good and evil.

Actually, the Serpent had predicted that very thing.

Gen 3:5 . . God knows that when you eat [from the tree in the midst of the
garden] your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.

The "knowing" spoken of here is an intuitive kind of knowing rather than an
instructed knowing. In other words: prior to tasting the forbidden fruit, neither
Adam nor his wife had a conscience;
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I think it's the other way around. They grew a conscience after the fact. Prior to knowing right from wrong, they had no intellectual way of establishing right from wrong. Instead, they were walking with God directly. There was no mediator between them other than Christ.

Following the fall, they now mediate reality through their intellect. The faculty of knowing is the mediator which humanity has added to establish facts or reality. The problem here is that one's understanding cannot stand under reality. There is nothing more fundamental than reality itself. The same holds for the truth. The truth is what sets one free, not knowledge of it. One can only have true knowledge if it is established upon the truth itself.

In other words, one cannot validate anything through knowledge. Science admits this as well. Knowledge is reflective, or derivative. It can never be fundamental.

So Adam and Eve were consciously aware of God rather than knowing anything. . Once they filtered reality through their own intellect, their conscious awareness was veiled in ignorance. That's what knowledge is.
 
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