Nonetheless, it DOES remind me of the A-I gymnastics! Do you want to argue about what an article reminds me of?There really is no relationship between the information offered in the OP and your conjecture.
Nonetheless, it DOES remind me of the A-I gymnastics! Do you want to argue about what an article reminds me of?There really is no relationship between the information offered in the OP and your conjecture.
Well, certainly not you all.
Again, you missed the point.
One has to wonder why people think a broken clock keeps good time...I said what I would say.
As I said, one has to wonder how many accidents have to happen before people realize it was no accident.![]()
Adam and Eve messed up.. But it still is not chaos. God is still sovereign.Yes. Someone did. I did. I draw that conclusion from your beliefs. Adam and Eve screwed up God's plan. He didn't intend for that to happen, according to you all. My statement stands as it is.
But Jesus talked about Moses. Seems He thought Moses existed, even without archeological evidence. Same with Abraham. I believe Jesus. Don't you?That is not historical evidence. There is no historical evidence that Moses ever existed. No one in pharaoh's court ever by that name. No one by that name or anyone, ever, to have parted the Red Sea. No one to lead the children of Israel around the wilderness for 40 years. It's all made up, according to the archaeological evidence.
I suppose, if we wait long enough, someone might discover his name amongst the historical record.
But, I'm guessing your going to miss the point of my statement.
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What makes you think he copied it?
Surviving Jaredite Names in Mesoamerica
By Bruce Warren · May 26, 2005
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What makes you think he copied it?
I seriously doubt that the poster would have recanted had a moderator not intervened.The poster eventually came clean and gave the CITATION for his plagiarism.
He did, and finally referenced it. The joke's on you.![]()
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What makes you think he copied it?
It doesn't matter what people think a word means, as we can see from our arguments with our critics. As far as the words listed here, At the time Joseph Smith was translating, these words had no meaning at all. Our critics used to get all riled over the word Alma, claiming it was a woman's name.
As I said before in the over broad generalized question where you all just can't see evidence if it slapped you in the face, all we need is time and eventually science will catch up.
Here again, we have evidence of the Book of Mormon's authenticity. And if we go with @imJRR comment, we can now say this is "proof" the Book of Mormon is everything it purports to be.Because "evidence = proof"
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It also appears in the Bible...surprise!
Book of Mormon Traditions Found Only in Mesoamerica by Diane Wirth
AND THEN IT CAME TO PASS
This phrase, or others with a similar wording,appears on a regular basis throughout the Book of Mormon. The phrase “AND THEN IT CAME TO PASS” in its various forms appears many times in Maya hieroglyphs,and is not to be taken lightly for the similarity of literary styles.
3 See Joseph L. Allen, Exploring the Lands of the Book of Mormon (Orem, Utah: S A Publishers, 1989), 31-34.
CHIASMUS CHIASMUS is a literary style that sets phrases in a certain order, has a central idea, and then retraces the wording in the opposite order. This is done in three places that are significant to Latter-day Saints: 1. In the Old Testament, 2. In the Book of Mormon, and 3. In Mesoamerica, more particularly on some of their stone stelae and the Quiché Maya’s Popol Vuh.
10 John W. Welch, ―Chiasmus in the Book of Mormon,‖ in BYU Studies 10:1 (1969), 69-84. For Chiasmus in Mesoamerica, see Robert F. Smith, ―Assessing the Broad Impact of Jack Welch‘s Discovery of Chiasmus in the Book of Mormon,‖ in Journal of Book of Mormon Studies, Vol. 16, No. 2, 2007.
We’ve talked quite a bit about chiasmus here in the past. It can be found just about everywhere, even in ancient Chinese writings.Book of Mormon Traditions Found Only in Mesoamerica by Diane Wirth
AND THEN IT CAME TO PASS
This phrase, or others with a similar wording,appears on a regular basis throughout the Book of Mormon. The phrase “AND THEN IT CAME TO PASS” in its various forms appears many times in Maya hieroglyphs,and is not to be taken lightly for the similarity of literary styles.
3 See Joseph L. Allen, Exploring the Lands of the Book of Mormon (Orem, Utah: S A Publishers, 1989), 31-34.
CHIASMUS CHIASMUS is a literary style that sets phrases in a certain order, has a central idea, and then retraces the wording in the opposite order. This is done in three places that are significant to Latter-day Saints: 1. In the Old Testament, 2. In the Book of Mormon, and 3. In Mesoamerica, more particularly on some of their stone stelae and the Quiché Maya’s Popol Vuh.
10 John W. Welch, ―Chiasmus in the Book of Mormon,‖ in BYU Studies 10:1 (1969), 69-84. For Chiasmus in Mesoamerica, see Robert F. Smith, ―Assessing the Broad Impact of Jack Welch‘s Discovery of Chiasmus in the Book of Mormon,‖ in Journal of Book of Mormon Studies, Vol. 16, No. 2, 2007.
And where did you copy that from?
So what. And where did you copy that from?edit
That's nice...but it is in the Bible in the OT. So, your glyph proves nothing. Smith just took that phrase from the Bible....and took it....and took it....and took it....and took it.....and took it.....and took it....and took it.....and took it.................................................---------------------
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<< Linda Schele was an expert in deciphering Maya hieroglyphics has interpreted this glyph as "iwal uti" or "and then it came to pass" (Glyph F16,) (Palenque Resources, Monuments & Inscriptions)
And where did you copy that from?
Chiasmus is not inherently Hebrew. It was actually more prominently Greek, but also Roman, Chinese, Aramaic, Babylonian, English, and others.
Shakespeare is full of chiasmus. Copying the writing style of the Bible is not difficult. It’s not proof of the Book of Mormon.
Is that a chiasmus? A kind of restating the same thought, only backwards? I never did understand what a chiasmus truly is.A) "Old King Cole"
..... B) "... was a merry old soul"
..... B) "and a merry old soul"
A) "... was he."
I am sure that you are not familiar with a chi square analysis. It is a statistical tool that people who know statistics use to measures what is, against what normal circumstances state It is an English language phrase, and is not a Mayan language phrase. AGAIN (sigh) you are plagiarizing something from an uneducated and unnamed source expecting us to believe itAND THEN IT CAME TO PASS
This phrase, or others with a similar wording,appears on a regular basis throughout the Book of Mormon. The phrase “AND THEN IT CAME TO PASS” in its various forms appears many times in Maya hieroglyphs,and is not to be taken lightly for the similarity of literary styles.
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So are we going to talk about lies now ???