The 70 weeks Daniels 70th seven is in Fact one Week of Years

rod.ney

Well-known member
The FIRST Protestant to promote your view was S.R. Maitland in 1826.

So ANY EXPERT before 1826 would have DISAGREED with your view.

That is why NONE of the Protestant confessions of faith agree with your view.

Were you aware of that?
Are you aware of the Fact ( that Centuries before 1826 ) that THAT Ephraim ( Sp? ) wrote about the believers getting Caught Up BEFORE the 7 years of Daniel 9:27 gets started! The scriptures ( GOD's say so ) that I posted 100% support the Facts that THAT is True! Case closed!
 

Truth7t7

Active member
Oh this case is very far from closed! So if the Coming Prince of Daniel 9:26 is Messiah the Prince (Jesus Christ), then that effectively removes the AC from this passage. Do you agree? And do you also agree that עם should be translated as "with" rather than "people"? And just for the record, I'm not aware of anyone that I consider an "expert" on Daniel's 70 weeks considering that it remains sealed and concealed as reflected, for example, in every post that you make here. With that said, I don't think that you're able of grasping this fact because you're so steeped in traditional dispensational eschatology which is a proverbial house of cards. And just to be clear, I label myself dispensational. And speaking of "experts", do you consider Sir Robert Anderson and Dr. Harold Hoehner two of your experts?
The scripture is very clear, the Jews are going to build unto their awaited upon (Messiah The Prince) prophesied in the Old Testament, as they rejected Jesus Christ, upper case diety, nothing states this Old Testament (Messiah The Prince) is coming as you falsely state, they are building to him, it's that simple

(The prince that shall come) that will destroy the city isnt Jesus Christ as you falsely claim, lower case (Not Diety) in verse 26, this is the fulfilling of the gentiles when Jerusalem is trodden under foot for 42 months

Daniel 9:25-27KJV
25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Yes, they will be building to (Messiah The Prince) as seen in Isaiah 9:6-7 below

Isaiah 9:6-7KJV
6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.
 
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Truth7t7

Active member
I agree !!!

But just to clarify your view...

If Daniel’s 70th week started at Noon January 1, 2022, when would it end?

I say Noon January 1, 2029.
Daniel 9:24-27, Seventy Literal Weeks Explained?

Daniel's 70 weeks are literal 7 day periods, or 490 literal days.

If Daniel meant 490 years he would have written

(Four Hundred Ninety Years)

Daniel had no restrictions in "Writing" exact numerology as seen below.

Daniel 6:1KJV
It pleased Darius to set over the kingdom an hundred and twenty princes, which should be over the whole kingdom;

Daniel 8:14KJV
And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.

Daniel 12:11KJV
And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

Below in Daniel 10:2-3 we see just another example of Daniel's literal weeks, as Daniel mourned and fasted for 3 literal weeks or 21 days.

Daniel 10:2-3KJV
2 In those days I Daniel was mourning three full weeks.
3 I ate no pleasant bread, neither came flesh nor wine in my mouth, neither did I anoint myself at all, till three whole weeks were fulfilled.

Below in Daniel 9:24-27 we see 70 literal future weeks or 490 days.

When the call/commandment goes out in Jerusalem to build unto the Jewish Meshiach/Messiah that they wait for (They Denied Jesus Christ) this will start the 7 week period.

62 literal weeks will be in building, and Meshiach/Messiah will be cut off by the Antichrist who stops the building.

The 70th literal week will see the antichrist revealed in making a covenant, and in the middle of this literal week he proclaims to be Meshiach/Messiah God to the Jews, and Jesus returned to the apostate church, to start a Millennium on earth.

The 3.5 year tribulation starts at this time.

Daniel 9:24-27KJV
24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
 

Bob Carabbio

Well-known member
I agree !!!

But just to clarify your view...

If Daniel’s 70th week started at Noon January 1, 2022, when would it end?

I say Noon January 1, 2029.
On the other hand, since obviously "ESCHATOLOGY" is really just another word for "Rank Speculation", with more "Passionately defended" versions than Carter has liver pills, personally I couldn't care less for any of it.
 

Yahchristian

Well-known member
On the other hand, since obviously "ESCHATOLOGY" is really just another word for "Rank Speculation", with more "Passionately defended" versions than Carter has liver pills, personally I couldn't care less for any of it.

I understand why people like myself (who see eschatology as the study of Bible prophecies that God does want us to understand) take time to visit an “Eschatology” forum.

But why does someone like you (who thinks eschatology is rank speculation) take time to visit an “Eschatology” forum at all, much less take even more time to actually post in the thread.

In other words...

Why are you here?

I am curious.
 

Bob Carabbio

Well-known member
I understand why people like myself (who see eschatology as the study of Bible prophecies that God does want us to understand) take time to visit an “Eschatology” forum.

But why does someone like you (who thinks eschatology is rank speculation) take time to visit an “Eschatology” forum at all, much less take even more time to actually post in the thread.

In other words...

Why are you here?

I am curious.
Just as a Word of CAUTION lest folks take any of this "End time prophetic stuff" seriously. It needs to be KNOWN that there's NO AGREEMENT about much of anything (except that He'll be back for us when it's TIME).

Yes - I still DO have my copy of "88 reasons why the RAPTURE will be in 1988", During the Feast of Trumpets. Whisnant proved it CONCLUSIVELY from the Bible.
 

Yahchristian

Well-known member
Just as a Word of CAUTION lest folks take any of this "End time prophetic stuff" seriously. It needs to be KNOWN that there's NO AGREEMENT about much of anything (except that He'll be back for us when it's TIME).

Yes - I still DO have my copy of "88 reasons why the RAPTURE will be in 1988", During the Feast of Trumpets. Whisnant proved it CONCLUSIVELY from the Bible.

Interesting.

You are here because It needs to be KNOWN that there's NO AGREEMENT about much of anything.

Whereas I am here because It needs to be KNOWN that there was MUCH AGREEMENT among Protestants 200 years ago.

That is likely why you got duped by the “88 Reasons” book whereas at that time I was trying to make known it was false.

Based on the popular Protestant view 200 years ago.
 
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