THE ADAM'S, Day 6, or DAY 3?

Stephen

Active member
please explain this, Interesting

I had read Gen 1 for a long time without seeing the pattern, but once somebody showed it to me, I can't read Gen 1 (or the bible at large) without connecting back to the creation days and the pattern when something is mentioned.

And once you have the pattern, you know what was created on what days without having to look at Gen 1.

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  • On Day 1, God speaks and says "let there be light" and he separated the light from the darkness.
  • On Day 4, God says “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night.

He creates a thing, "light" and then 3 days later he creates a population of lights. (Day 1 and 4 are related)

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  • On Day 2, God separates the waters and calls the upper waters sky.
  • On Day 5, God creates the birds to fill the sky and the fish to fill the waters.

He separates the sea and makes the "sky", then 3 days later he fills the sky with birds and the water with fish (Day 2 and Day 5 are related).

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  • On day 3 God separates the earth from the waters and creates vegetation
  • On day 6 God creates animals (and men and women) to fill the earth.

He creates a place for animals and people to live with lots of stuff to eat, and then 3 days later he fills the place with animals and people (Day 3 and Day 6 are related)

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The days are related to each other according to the pattern.
1 - 4
2 - 5
3 - 6

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And the days also have this pattern:
1,2,3 - God creates Stuff
4,5,6 - God creates populations related to that stuff

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Regarding your question about the light: Yes I think they are strongly related. God creates light, then he creates a population of lights. God separates the light from the darkness in Day 1. The Day 4 creations are also to perform that same task, to separate light from darkness.

Your idea of Adam being a Day 3 creation, and then people being created "in Adam" would be an interesting thesis to develop. The thesis certainly makes a for some connections and as such makes for an interesting rabbit hole to go down.

If Adam was a Day 3 creation, then Christ being resurrected on the 3rd day would be an avenue to pursue to support your cause. I haven't considered your hypothesis before, but it has a certain appeal. Christ being the bread of life, and other similar language in the gospels certainly points backwards to day 3. And if he is the second Adam, it would follow that he would mimic the first.

And like Adam had to wait for his bride, whom was taken from his side. So also Christ has to wait for his bride, and that spear in his side at the cross wasn't an accident, but reminds us of Adam's side.

Maybe Adam and Eve had separate creation days in addition to being separate creation events? It would be tough to demonstrate, but does connect a few dots. The Jewish Rabbis have been thinking about this stuff for thousands of years and might be a resource (sans the Christ stuff).
 

101G

Active member
The days are related to each other according to the pattern.
1 - 4
2 - 5
3 - 6

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And the days also have this pattern:
1,2,3 - God creates Stuff
4,5,6 - God creates populations related to that stuff
Intresting, i will copy for future reference and study, thanks.
Regarding your question about the light: Yes I think they are strongly related. God creates light, then he creates a population of lights. God separates the light from the darkness in Day 1. The Day 4 creations are also to perform that same task, to separate light from darkness.
not saying that you're right or wrong, but consider this,

now there is a couple of distinction between what happen on day 1 at the beginning, and day 4.

#1. God divided the light from the darkness in verse 4, on the first day. but in verse 14 it is the sun and the earth that divide the day from the night. we have two division of light/day, and darkness/night. if it was good, why divide it again? and three, in verse 4, it's, "LIGHT", a single designation, whereas in verse 14 it's plural.

#2. Here's the revelation,
the definition of Light in verse 4, is H216 אוֹר 'owr (ore) n-f.
1. illumination.
2. (concretely) luminary (in every sense, including lightning, happiness, etc.).
[from H215]
KJV: bright, clear, + day, light (-ning), morning, sun.

Notice that word "happiness" in the definition #2, because I'll be coming back to it. the definition of “Light” in verse 14, the shinning light, not the object that is the source of the light, but the shining light itself is,
H215 אוֹר 'owr (ore) v.
1. to be luminous.
2. (causative) to make luminous.
{literally and metaphorically}
[a primitive root]
KJV: X break of day, glorious, kindle, (be, en-, give, show) light (-en, -ened), set on fire, shine.

Notice how the kjv can translate this light, "shine" keep this in mind. and the shining LIGHT in verse 4 & 5 is
H216 אוֹר 'owr (ore) n-f.
1. illumination.
2. (concretely) luminary (in every sense, including lightning, happiness, etc.).
[from H215]
KJV: bright, clear, + day, light (-ning), morning, sun.
Root(s): H215

Look at the first definition of each, 1. to be luminous. 1. illumination. see the difference. also NOTICE, in H215 אוֹר 'owr (ore) v. the KJV can translate this LIGHT, "Shine" which in found in verse 14. but the Light in verse 4 & 5 is not or is not translate so, or can be translated as "shine". so the conclusion, the Light in verses 4 & 5 is not the same in verse 14, the scriptures makes that crystal Clear.

here is my analysis,

remember, I said keep definition H216 אוֹר 'owr (ore) n-f. in your mind, about "happiness", lets look at it.
1. illumination.
2. (concretely) luminary (in every sense, including lightning, happiness, etc.).
[from H215]
KJV: bright, clear, + day, light (-ning), morning, sun.

notice #2. in the second definition, "happiness", now scripture, Proverbs 8:22 "The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old." Proverbs 8:23 "I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was." Proverbs 8:24 "When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water." Proverbs 8:25 "Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:" Proverbs 8:26 "While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world." Proverbs 8:27 "When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:" Proverbs 8:28 "When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:" Proverbs 8:29 "When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:" Proverbs 8:30 "Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;" Proverbs 8:31 "Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men."

that word "delight" guess what it means? that's right "Happiness" the same happiness found in definition H216 אוֹר 'owr (ore) n-f. Notice #2.
1. illumination.
2. (concretely) luminary (in every sense, including lightning, happiness, etc.).
[from H215]
KJV: bright, clear, + day, light (-ning), morning, sun.

one more, in Proverbs 8:31 "Rejoicing", another word for it..... that's right "happiness"
so without a doubt, the LIGHT in verses 4 and 5 is not natural sunlight, or physical, light, but the source of ALL KNOWKEDGE and UNDERSTANDING, WISDOM, the Living WORD of God, the Light of the world, John 1:4, & 9, and Wisdom is illumination or enlightenment. in knowledgement and Understanding. this is why I cannot believe that the sun was shining on day 1 or that a cloud was around the earth as many believe.

My sources for this Revelation is, The Holy Spirit, as teacher, the help aide, and the Holy Bible, (the King James Version), with the Mickelson's Enhanced Strong's Dictionaries of the Greek and Hebrew Testaments.

so, this is my understanding, when GOD said, Genesis 1:3 "And God said, Let there be light: and there was light." let there be KNOWLEDGE and UNDERSTANDING, supportive scripture, Proverbs 2:6 "For the LORD giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding."

and what came out of God's MOUTH? "let there be...... " let there be wisdom in Knowledge and understanding of what I did.

so to me, Light = Knowledge and Understanding, which is the Wisdom of God.

Darkness to me = Lack of Knowledge, or Understanding, .... Ignorance.of this world.

1 John 1:6 "If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:" 1 John 1:7 "But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin."

Just something to think or consider. but I like your points.

PICJAG, 101G.
 

Bob Carabbio

Well-known member
In order to END right, one must be right from the beginning. and one of the key point in getting man right is their beginning.

Many believe man/Adam was Formed on day 6/six. We say no, man was "FORMED" on Day 3 and "MADE" ... male and female on day 6.

let us be clear, Man, the person, "FORMED"/CREATED day 3, MADE male and Female day 6.

well this should light a fire, but bring firewood, oh I mean scripture to back up your claim.

so we will go first,

As stated, Man, was “formed”, on day 3. open your bible to Genesis 1:9-13 and read the 3rd day creation. next read in your bible, Genesis chapter 2:4-7. verses 5-7 tells us what God did in detail on day 3, which correspond with Genesis 1:9-13. here is the revelation. according to Genesis chapter 1 on day 3 verse 11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so". but according to Chapter 2, BEFORE the grass grew, and BEFORE any herb grew, BEFORE any trees came forth listen, 5 "And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God, had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground". remember this is DAY 3, read that verse 5 again and notice the word BEFORE. next verse, 6 “But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. 7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul". now going back to chapter 1, to verse 12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good". STOP, LOOK and LISTEN, if the Earth brought fort grass herbs and trees on day 3 according to chapter 2 verse 5 this same bible said that "BEFORE" the grass grew, and "BEFORE" plant was even in the EARTH, there was no "RAIN", and no "MAN". read that 5th verse again, and watch the association of Rain, and man. now the next verse, 6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. 7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul". verse 6 just told us that now there was rain, in the form of mist, and now a man, which is BEFORE any grass grew, and before any plants, and BEFORE any trees. and remember this is day 3. Let’s go back to verse 5 of chapter 2 again, "And every plant of the field "before" it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground". before any seed in the ground, and before any grass GREW, and before any Plants, and Trees, now the ground was watered, (by a mist), and the man formed. because chapter 1 verse 12 said that the EARTH brought forth grass, and trees on Day 3. and chapter 2 said before the grass grew, before the herbs and trees, there was rain in the form of mist, and the man formed. there is the proof of man and rain/dew before day 3 ended. to clarify this further. the ONE man that was formed on day 3 and was CREATED, MADE into male and female on DAY 6, after there was not found a suitable help meet for the one man, (see Genesis 2:18-20). the man was before the animals, only the woman was “formed” ... brought forth, after the animals, but was in the man before the animals. what did this just tell us, (a). we did not evolve from animals, so Darwin lied. (b). we were the first living creatures to walk on the planet. Woman was formed, not created, or made, but formed on day 6, then made and created into female. because no help meet was found for the man, God brought forth from the ONE MAN, then another MAN, (woman), which God created female. Understand on the 6th day the one MAN was not CREATED again into existence, but another man was “formed”, or MADE, and both the first man and his “another”, or diversified self, was CREATED into male and female on day 6. but when God formed man on day three there was no female, because she was in the man, (just as the Lord was in the Spirit, before coming as the equal share), she was "MADE"/formed on Day 6. Supportive scripture, 1 Timothy 2:13 "For Adam was first formed, then Eve”. notice the woman was not created she was "formed" just as as the first man, but the creation of both was in their respective genders. Other words it is in the permutation, or the permuting of the genetic structure. Simply put, the alteration or arrangement of the genetic sequencing. that's the difference between being FORMED, and CREATED. the man and the woman was CREATED permutated male and female on day 6. the Man existed in this world before the woman, as a single person, but both was CREATED or permutated male and female on the same day, (this is why she is called an ADAM, meaning manKIND), which was day 6. supportive scripture, Genesis 5:1 "This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
2 "Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created". the man, both the female and the male, was identified both as ADAM on day 6 in the DAY
they were CREATED, created how? answer, male and female. not created into existence as such, but created male and female on day 6. I hope you can see it now. conclusion, Man was FORMED on day 3 before any grass grew, before any plant, or trees. the woman was MADE, or brought forth on day 6 after the animals. and on day 6 both the man, and (the woman), was CREATED as "Male", and "Female". we have one MAN FORMED day 3 another Formed day 6th. and each was made male and female.

later we will give our reasoning for the 6th DAY making of male and female, in contrast to the animals.

PICJAG, 101G.
BOY HOWDY!!!! The sure was a lot of work for nothing!!
 

101G

Active member
Just as all who are in the END times are misguided from the beginning in understanding that. Adam was formed on day 3, BEFORE the Animals, the woman formed day 6 after the animals.

but understand, the woman was in the man on day 3 but was only BROUGHT FORTH or manifested on day 6.

likewise with their children, that they had in the garden before the fall. if we would hove gotten it right in the beginning, all these false doctrine of a pre-adamic race, and angels having children with earth women, could have been avoided.

Just as in the beginning, if one would have know that God is the H433 אֱלוֹהַּ 'elowahh (el-o'-ah) in a ECHAD of himself as the H430 אֱלֹהִים 'elohiym (el-o-heem' then the Godhead controversy could have been avoided.

as said, if we just go back to the beginning, learn and understand by God himself, many sorrows could be avoided.

PICJAG, 101G.
 
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