so are you saying that the "Son" made all things at Isaiah 44:24? yes or No,The Word identified as The Son.
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so are you saying that the "Son" made all things at Isaiah 44:24? yes or No,The Word identified as The Son.
There is NO biological Son of God. Sheer paganism.And God is our Father seeing that he created Adam erom whom we all came.
but he is the biological son of God...Jesus is a living organism, isn't he?
You are not making any sense...God has a son...his name is Jesus...Jesus gave us the power to become sons of God... Jn 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
So unless you are calling Jesus a liar your argument is refuted...This may seem impossible to you but with God, it is a small thing...
Matt 19
26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
Firstborn from the dead refers to resurrection, NOT a being born again.If Jesus was not born again how can he be the firstborn from the dead?
Yes! Together with The Father and Holy Spirit.so are you saying that the "Son" made all things at Isaiah 44:24? yes or No,
PICJAG, 101G.
the Bible say that's a LIE, because the ONE p[erson at Isaiah 44:24 said he was "ALONE", and Alone means, "having no one else present". that just eliminated your two other so-called persons. read Isaiah 44:24 again, "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;"Yes! Together with The Father and Holy Spirit.
Jesus was RAISED from the dead, NOT born again from the dead.Exactly and the Bible very clearly reveals that Jesus was born twice and both times he was born, God declared to him "you are my Son this day have I begotten you".
The first time was at his birth by the Holy Spirit and Mary and as per Hebrews 1:5-6 when he brought the firstborn into the world and then again after Jesus literally died and was born again from the dead and as per Paul in Acts 13:30-34, where God declared the second time "you are my Son this day have I begotten you".
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ONE God at Isaiah 44:24, thus NO need to try again.the Bible say that's a LIE, because the ONE p[erson at Isaiah 44:24 said he was "ALONE", and Alone means, "having no one else present". that just eliminated your two other so-called persons. read Isaiah 44:24 again, "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;"
JG, the bible is saying that you're lying...... (smile), Oop's
so try again,
PICJAG, 101G.
Jesus did NOT have to BECOME The Son of God, since He ALREADY WAS in His mother's womb.And God is our Father seeing that he created Adam erom whom we all came.
but he is the biological son of God...Jesus is a living organism, isn't he?
You are not making any sense...God has a son...his name is Jesus...Jesus gave us the power to become sons of God... Jn 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
So unless you are calling Jesus a liar your argument is refuted...This may seem impossible to you but with God, it is a small thing...
Matt 19
26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
well a BIG ERROR on YOUR part, and here's why, LISTEN CAREFULLY, Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;"
First "I" is a single person designation, meaning ONLY "ONE" PERSON, and on top of that, he was "ALONE". do you know what "ALONE" mean?
Alone, having no one else present. well that just eliminated the medium through LIE, and on top of that, he was NOT ONLY "ALONE, but BY "HIMSELF", which eliminate and three person God head. I like the way the NASB 1995 say it, "Thus says the LORD, your Redeemer, and the one who formed you from the womb, “I, the LORD, am the maker of all things, Stretching out the heavens by Myself And spreading out the earth all alone".
ALL ALONE? which makes it perfectly clear, ONE person, and ONE person ... "ONLY". so the medium through theory is just that a LIE, according the BIBLE.
PICJAG, 101G.
Indeed, God The Father, Son Holy Spirit created.Yes, God, i.e. Christ's father created. This isn't news or even shocking to me.
but did you not say,The context says the word is the medium through which "all things" were made.
so you're saying that Christ ... "father" created everything .. through him, the Word... correct?yes, God, i.e. Christ's father created. This isn't news or even shocking to me.
well the bible declare both of you are lying, and here's why. Isa 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;"Indeed, God The Father, Son Holy Spirit created.
Ranting and raving will NOT change your false god into one Person.well JG, your three persons beliefs are eliminated. the bible reject your doctrine. not 101G, but the bible.
so you're reproved. and your doctrine ... EXPOSED.
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He is a man it does not say anything about sinlessALL sinful men must be born again, Christ EXCLUDED since He was SINLESS.
It says firstborn from the dead. That my friend is born againCol. 1:18 says NOTHING concerning being "born again".
Ok let us clear up your ignorance, let us take it from vsIn ALL things He has the PREEMINENCE????Wow! He must be God.
Your willful ignorance is a disrespect to God...Your sinful disrespect to The ONE Lord continues.
The Word identified as The Son.
The Bible says He was sinless.He is a man it does not say anything about sinless
It says firstborn from the dead. That my friend is born again
Ok let us clear up your ignorance, let us take it from vs
15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
It says....Jesus is the image of the invisible God...It does not say he is God...It says Jesus is the firstborn of every creature...God was not born...
16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Jesus the Son of God created all things
17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
Jesus is before all things and by him, all things consist.
18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
Jesus is the head of the church again it says the firstborn from the dead...When did God die?
19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
It pleases the Father that in Jesus should all the fullness dwell...Nothing here says that Jesus is God...it shows that Jesus died and we know that God cannot die..
Your willful ignorance is a disrespect to God...
Ranting and raving, THIS IS WHAT YOU CALL THE TRUTH NOW? .... (SMILE)Ranting and raving will NOT change your false god into one Person.
LOL, that was not the point, is "I" ONE PERSON, or three seperate person?... only a simpleton would believe thatYes, God, i.e. Christ's father created. This isn't news or even shocking to me.
So what is your point ...He is still the son of God...therefore not God...unless you have more than one God...Jesus did NOT have to BECOME The Son of God, since He ALREADY WAS in His mother's womb.
You were NOT and indeed STILL are NOT.
and he died...God cannot die...you are refuting your own argument...The Bible says He was sinless.
What do you suppose firstborn from the dead means?Resurrection is NOT being born again.
No, I have not...if Jesus is a deity then you have more than one deity, Jesus is a deity the father is a deity and the HS is a deity...3 deities...By quoting Col. 1:16-18 you have demonstrated the Deity of Jesus Christ.
"God cannot die." but,and he died...God cannot die...you are refuting your own argument...
What do you suppose firstborn from the dead means?
No, I have not...if Jesus is a deity then you have more than one deity, Jesus is a deity the father is a deity and the HS is a deity...3 deities...