The Arminians powerless Jesus.

[Arch Stanton]

Nonsensical useless response.

reread for understanding ?

You think whatever you bind, means add to the scriptures

nope, but the bible is not an all inclusive manual

whatever you feel like.

whatever you bind and loose on the Church is the point Manfred

You think I lack faith when I quote scripture

anyone can quote scripture [Mt 4:5]

And you think you qualify to bring good news to the lost

once again, are you lost Manfred?

 

[fltom]

There you go again. Why so hostile? Lol Humble yourself and say I'm sorry for calling you a fraudster.

Humble yourself

If you employ the phrase choice meats you will be know as meathead

 

[Reformedguy]

Humble yourself

If you employ the phrase choice meats you will be know as meathead

Just say sorry. Humble yourself. Choice meat is good name. God likes it. God looks for Choice meat. Your pope said so.

 

[Carbon]

Humble yourself

If you employ the phrase choice meats you will be know as meathead

Hmmm, that’s funny…. I don’t know him as meathead. ?
Kinda goes with choice meat, if you ask me.

why are you being insulting to him?
Don’t you have anything nice to say?

 

[fltom]

Hmmm, that’s funny…. I don’t know him as meathead. ?
Kinda goes with choice meat, if you ask me.

why are you being insulting to him?

Why is he being insulting?

And why are you supporting him in his insult?

 

[Carbon]

Why is he being insulting?

And why are you supporting him in his insult?

Is he?
Where?

 

[fltom]

Just say sorry. Humble yourself. Choice meat is good name. God likes it. God looks for Choice meat. Your pope said so.

Don't hold your breath meathead

 

[fltom]

Is he?
Where?

read and you will see

 

[Reformedguy]

Don't hold your breath meathead

I would not do that. You would not want something to happen to me would you? Lol Now apologize for calling us fraudsters

 

[fltom]

I would not do that. You would not want something to happen to me would you? Lol Now apologize for calling us fraudsters

As I stated don't hold your breath

It's not going to happen

 

[preacher4truth]

Oooops!!!!!!!

 

[fltom]

Sorry, 2 Corinthians does not mention that it is the apostles exclusively who the Spirit reveals the things of God to.

Does this mean they could not understand the things of God but you can?? Try something different. Quit insulting 2000 year old dead apostles

How in the world did you get the idea I was stating the apostles could not understand the things of God

All truth was not yet revealed and had to be revealed first to the apostles so they could preach it and write it down

We have the advantage now of having the revelations they received in the New testament

 

[4calvinism]

How in the world did you get the idea I was stating the apostles could not understand the things of God

All truth was not yet revealed and had to be revealed first to the apostles so they could preach it and write it down

We have the advantage now of having the revelations they received in the New testament

And what he is saying is you understand these revelations by the Spirit of God. Just because you or anyone else writes them down or preaches them does not of necessity mean the hearers or readers will understand.

 

[fltom]

And what he is saying is you understand these revelations by the Spirit of God. Just because you or anyone else writes them down or preaches them does not of necessity mean the hearers or readers will understand.

What he needs to prove is the scriptures and the preaching of them are insufficient of themselves for understanding and belief
The bible never teaches that. I have a number of verses he never addresses to that end

 

[Reformedguy]

YHow in the world did you get the idea I was stating the apostles could not understand the things of God

All truth was not yet revealed and had to be revealed first to the apostles so they could preach it and write it down

We have the advantage now of having the revelations they received in the New testament

Yes and you understand them by the Spirit

 

[fltom]

Yes and you understand them by the Spirit

Unbelievers those who do not yet believe do not have the spirit

and the spirit's work in the believer is expressed here

John 16:8-11 (ESV)
8 And when he comes, he will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment:
9 concerning sin, because they do not believe in me;
10 concerning righteousness, because I go to the Father, and you will see me no longer;
11 concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.

 

[Reformedguy]

Unbelievers those who do not yet believe do not have the spirit

and the spirit's work in the believer is expressed here

John 16:8-11 (ESV)
8 And when he comes, he will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment:
9 concerning sin, because they do not believe in me;
10 concerning righteousness, because I go to the Father, and you will see me no longer;
11 concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.

So you need the Spirit to understand the things of God. It could not be clearer

 

[fltom]

So you need the Spirit to understand the things of God. It could not be clearer

Did you read?

It spoke of conviction not understanding

 

[David1701]

What he needs to prove is the scriptures and the preaching of them are insufficient of themselves for understanding and belief
The bible never teaches that. I have a number of verses he never addresses to that end

The Bible certainly does teach that the Scripture and the preaching of them are insufficient, in themselves, for understanding and faith.

John 3:19,20 (VW)
19 And this is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil.
20 For everyone practicing evil hates the Light and does not come to the Light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

Now contrast this with the person whom God has made born again.

John 3:21 (VW) But the one doing the truth comes to the Light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been worked in God.

 

[ReverendRV]

The Bible certainly does teach that the Scripture and the preaching of them are insufficient, in themselves, for understanding and faith.

John 3:19,20 (VW)
19 And this is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil.
20 For everyone practicing evil hates the Light and does not come to the Light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

Now contrast this with the person whom God has made born again.

John 3:21 (VW) But the one doing the truth comes to the Light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been worked in God.

@David1701 in that HOUSE!!!

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