The baptism with the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 4:5)

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Baltic

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Gary Mac said:
Yes just as He did in Jesus when He gave Jesus a knew knowledge where God manifested Himself face to face with Jesus ands opened up who He is ands all ofd His heaven in that man. Not very many believe Matt 3:16,, they have made Jesus a god instead.
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Jesus is example we follow, Christ entered Jesus and stayed with Him.
 
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Gary Mac

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Baltic said:
Jesus is example we follow, Christ entered Jesus and stayed with Him.
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Yes, Christ = Gods anointing, to have His same mind, or Spirit the mind is called in the Bible, to be exactly in His same image, that of Love, for God is Love, which is Christ in you, onely if He is.

God is so simple but man in his religious ignorance has made Him so so complicated.
 
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Slyzr

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Fred said:
Ephesians 4:5
one Lord, one faith, one baptism.

Some may claim that since water baptism is to occur that would make 2 baptisms. However, the one baptism in which every Christian has been placed into the body of Christ refers to the baptism with the Holy Spirit.
If it is insisted upon that "one baptism" means there is ONLY one baptism left (water baptism) then that encounters an insurmountable problem, because the apostle John (years after Ephesians was written) still had a "baptism" to undergo (his death).

Mark 10:35-39
(35) James and John, the two sons of Zebedee, came up to Jesus, saying, “Teacher, we want You to do for us whatever we ask of You.”
(36) And He said to them, “What do you want Me to do for you?”
(37) They said to Him, “Grant that we may sit, one on Your right and one on Your left, in Your glory.”
(38) But Jesus said to them, “You do not know what you are asking. Are you able to drink the cup that I drink, or to be baptized with the baptism with which I am baptized?”
(39) They said to Him, “We are able.” And Jesus said to them, The cup that I drink you shall drink; and you shall be baptized with the baptism with which I am baptized.

New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology (NIDNTT): the cup is understood as the cup of suffering, the baptism as the baptism of death (Matt. 20:22; Mk. 10:38) (2:276, Hunger, G. Braumann).

The Gentiles were baptized with the Holy Spirit (Acts 11:16).
Acts 11:16
And I remembered the word of the Lord, how He used to say, ‘John baptized with water, but you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit.’

The Gentiles being baptized with the Holy Spirit (Acts 11:16) = The Gentiles being given the Holy Spirit (Acts 15:8)

This also refers to: The Gentiles being sealed with the Holy Spirit, which Ephesians 1:13 applies to all who are Christians. Thus, the "one baptism" (Ephesians 4:5) refers to being baptized witrh the Holy Spirit (cf. Ephesians 1:13).
Acts 15:7-8
(7) After there had been much debate, Peter stood up and said to them, Brethren, you know that in the early days God made a choice among you, that by my mouth the Gentiles would hear the word of the gospel and believe.
(8) And God, who knows the heart, testified to them giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He also did to us.
Ephesians 1:13
In him you also, when you heard the word of trtuh, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Spirit.
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So the HS is death to us .... made to kill us?
 
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Slyzr

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Christ comes from Christos, a Greek word that means “the anointed one,” or “the chosen one.” The Hebrew word meaning the same thing is Mashiach, or as we know ...

From google
 
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Gary Mac

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Slyzr said:
Reference?
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Matt 3;16.
Slyzr said:
What happened to "Jesus is the Christ".
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Christ = Gods anointing in man. Christ is not a man, Christ is the man who is anointed of God, Christ in me is the same anointing from God as Jesus receieved in Matt 3:16. Jesus coined this ne knowledge, mind, as born again.

Jesus was of Christ just as we all are who has been born of God as Jesus was in Matt 3:16. Jesus didnt even know God nor His heaven until God came to that man and opens it up in Him just as He does in us all who has received the same Spirit of God, mind of God.
Slyzr said:
Some writtings are questionable.
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Especially those from Paul who used trickery to get people to follow him as a sinner instead of Jesus and be without sin ourselves.
 
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Gary Mac

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Bob Carabbio said:
"Some may claim" says it all. "Some" claim that the earth is FLAT, and that we've never been to the moon.

SO much for "Some".
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Yes, beliefs are not real only speculation based on ignorance. One can believe anything of a god, even atheists has a belief about a God.
 
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