The Bodily Resurrection & Ascension of Jesus

Gary Mac

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And just MORE of Gary's FALSE accusations about me! I read the scriptures AS IS and Gary is the one that Twists them ( 2 Peter 3:16 ) to FIT his own agenda! Case closed!
There is One that you do not know and that is the One who came to Jesus by His Spirit and opens up to him the same He will do in you. The difference in you and Jesus is he obeyed and received.
 

Gary Mac

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There you go posting UNTRUTH's about me! I believe in ALL scriptural Facts, but NOT your Twisted view of them as per 2 Peter 3:16! So once again the AS IS scriptures that you Posted DO NOT say born again children of God are BEGOTTEN sons of God! They are begotten of their human parents and the become ADOPTED son's of God once they become born again ( 1 Cor.6:19 - written by Paul ) as Paul shows us in Ephesians & Romans! So the REAL question is why are you Twisting those scriptures that you posted, to make them say born again children of God are Begotten son's of God, just Like Jesus is ( which contradicts because Jesus is the ONLY Begotten Son of God - That POINT Blank means that NO ONE else is )! Case closed!
It is truths to your religion but what is demanded of us by God Himself is not your truths. Your way is not His at all. His way is to be like Him and just as with you those of his day had him crucified for the same accusations of false witness as you do.
 

Our Lord's God

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There you go posting UNTRUTH's about me! I believe in ALL scriptural Facts, but NOT your Twisted view of them as per 2 Peter 3:16! So once again the AS IS scriptures that you Posted DO NOT say born again children of God are BEGOTTEN sons of God! They are begotten of their human parents and the become ADOPTED son's of God once they become born again ( 1 Cor.6:19 - written by Paul ) as Paul shows us in Ephesians & Romans! So the REAL question is why are you Twisting those scriptures that you posted, to make them say born again children of God are Begotten son's of God, just Like Jesus is ( which contradicts because Jesus is the ONLY Begotten Son of God - That POINT Blank means that NO ONE else is )! Case closed!

No you don't. You deny the Scriptural facts which say God has many begotten sons.
 

rod.ney

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No you don't. You deny the Scriptural facts which say God has many begotten sons.
FYI again the AS IS scriptures that you Posted DO NOT say Begotten SONS! Read them again and stop ADDING your Twisted agenda to them and CONTRADICT John 1:18 & 3:16+18 where it POINT Blank does say " ONLY Begotten SON "! Scriptures will NEVER contradict other scriptures on the SAME TOPIC unless you Twist them ( like you did with your posted scriptures ) to do just that! Case closed because Jesus Christ is the ONLY Begotten Son of God as No human father fertilized Mary's egg to cause the pregnancy! Born again humans were ORIGINALLY begotten of their human father and then BECAME Adopted by God once they accepted the REAL Jesus Christ ( GOD's ONLY Begotten Son ) as their Lord & Savior!
 

rod.ney

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We have to understand that he worships a different god from the One Jesus heard from and prayed to and obeyed.
Yes indeed God the Son as a God-Man ( as per John 1:1+14 & Heb.1:6+8 ) worshiped God the Father & Holy Spirit! Case closed on Gary's counterfeit Jesus ( just a man as per his say so - 2 Peter 3:16 )!
 

Gary Mac

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Yes indeed God the Son as a God-Man ( as per John 1:1+14 & Heb.1:6+8 ) worshiped God the Father & Holy Spirit! Case closed on Gary's counterfeit Jesus ( just a man as per his say so - 2 Peter 3:16 )!
You see right there that you do not know the One Jesus prayed to obeyed and calls his God and Father of his Spirit.

There is One that you do not know who sent a man to lead you to Him. And still sends men today to lead you to Him. You just refuse and serve a different t god is all.
 

rod.ney

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You see right there that you do not know the One Jesus prayed to obeyed and calls his God and Father of his Spirit.

There is One that you do not know who sent a man to lead you to Him. And still sends men today to lead you to Him. You just refuse and serve a different t god is all.
Well there you go READERS! Gary does NOT know God the Father ( that sent God the Word of John 1:1 to become Flesh as Jesus Christ the God-Man in John 1:14 - to show us the way), that Jesus ( God the Son ) prayed to and God the Holy Spirit ( who is not God the Father ) who came to Jesus ( the God-Man as per John 1:1+14 ) as a Dove at His Baptism in Matt.3:16! Gary has a FALSE or Counterfeit Christ, who is just a man ( as per his say so on record on CARM ) and Not God the Word of John 1:1 also! Thus Gary is NOT born again since he has NOT accepted the REAL Jesus Christ ( God-Man as per John 1:1+14 & Heb.1:6+8 ) as his Lord & Savior! Gray's Twisted views ( Only the Father is God and NOT the Son & Holy Spirit - 2 Peter 3:16 ) remain 100% rebuked by those AS IS scriptures that I posted as per 2 Tim.3:16!
 

Gary Mac

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Well there you go READERS! Gary does NOT know God the Father ( that sent God the Word of John 1:1 to become Flesh as Jesus Christ the God-Man in John 1:14 - to show us the way), that Jesus ( God the Son ) prayed to and God the Holy Spirit ( who is not God the Father ) who came to Jesus ( the God-Man as per John 1:1+14 ) as a Dove at His Baptism in Matt.3:16! Gary has a FALSE or Counterfeit Christ, who is just a man ( as per his say so on record on CARM ) and Not God the Word of John 1:1 also! Thus Gary is NOT born again since he has NOT accepted the REAL Jesus Christ ( God-Man as per John 1:1+14 & Heb.1:6+8 ) as his Lord & Savior! Gray's Twisted views ( Only the Father is God and NOT the Son & Holy Spirit - 2 Peter 3:16 ) remain 100% rebuked by those AS IS scriptures that I posted as per 2 Tim.3:16!
You still haven't answered. What if God really did send Jesus as teacher of His way?

Why cant you believe that God actually sent Jesus to show you what it is to be in the Father yourself?

What antichrist religion would keep you from believing that God sent Jesus to show you His way that you may be perfect even as the Father in heaven is perfect?

Why cant you believe that Jesus is the way the truth and the life and no one, not you or anyone else comes to the Father but the same way as Jesus received from Him and live His same way, same life. He really is the way of the Father whether you think so or not.
 

YeshuaFan

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Yet Jesus worships God and serve him only...
Luke 4:8
And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
He served the Father while on the earth, accepted limitations of human flesh, but now fully glorified and is also God!
 

Gary Mac

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He served the Father while on the earth, accepted limitations of human flesh, but now fully glorified and is also God!
He was fully glorified in Matt 3:16. This is when his eyes was open to the reality of God. We are the same. Glorification comes with the Christ, Christ in you, you anointed of God to have His same mind and walk in it as He walks in it, perfect even as your Father in heaven is perfect. Jesus referred to this glorified body as born again.

And Jesus is also God? Only if ones religious mind worships a man as a god, a human idol, a god of flesh and does not know the God of Spirit Who was in that man. .
 

YeshuaFan

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He was fully glorified in Matt 3:16. This is when his eyes was open to the reality of God. We are the same. Glorification comes with the Christ, Christ in you, you anointed of God to have His same mind and walk in it as He walks in it, perfect even as your Father in heaven is perfect. Jesus referred to this glorified body as born again.

And Jesus is also God? Only if ones religious mind worships a man as a god, a human idol, a god of flesh and does not know the God of Spirit Who was in that man. .
Jesus was and is God, are you?
 

Gary Mac

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Jesus was and is God, are you?
How can you read Matt 3:16 and say Jesus was God? He didn't even know God or His heaven until God came to him and opened up all of His ways to him. We are not different from the same at all.

Jesus said I am the way the truth and the life and no one comes to the Father but by me, meaning, have the same from the Father he had from Him and you will not know God at all least you have the same from Him.
 

DoubtingThomas

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Hmmmmmm! "The Bodily Resurrection & Ascension of Jesus" should read "The Bodily Resurrection & Ascension of the Trinity".... or SHOULD it, being they don't teach Jesus EVER died...so it should be "The Ascension of the Trinity"....
 

rod.ney

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You still haven't answered. What if God really did send Jesus as teacher of His way?

Why cant you believe that God actually sent Jesus to show you what it is to be in the Father yourself?

What antichrist religion would keep you from believing that God sent Jesus to show you His way that you may be perfect even as the Father in heaven is perfect?

Why cant you believe that Jesus is the way the truth and the life and no one, not you or anyone else comes to the Father but the same way as Jesus received from Him and live His same way, same life. He really is the way of the Father whether you think so or not.
Well the Readers can CLEARLY see that Gary has NOT correctly read my post because it does in Fact say God the Father sent God the Word of John 1:1 to become FLESH ( Incarnate ) ae Jesus Christ ( the God-Man ) in John 1:14 to show us the way! Case closed on Gary's twisted view ( 2 Peter 3:16 ) that the REAL Jesus Christ is just a man ONLY and NOT God the Word of John 1:1 also! Even the Father still calls Him God in Heb.1:8 after His incarnation of John 1:14! Gary's views remain 100% rebuked by those posted scriptures as per 2 Tim.3:16!
 

Gary Mac

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Well the Readers can CLEARLY see that Gary has NOT correctly read my post because it does in Fact say God the Father sent God the Word of John 1:1 to become FLESH ( Incarnate ) ae Jesus Christ ( the God-Man ) in John 1:14 to show us the way! Case closed on Gary's twisted view ( 2 Peter 3:16 ) that the REAL Jesus Christ is just a man ONLY and NOT God the Word of John 1:1 also! Even the Father still calls Him God in Heb.1:8 after His incarnation of John 1:14! Gary's views remain 100% rebuked by those posted scriptures as per 2 Tim.3:16!
You are so mixed up. Only the same God who came to Jesus and made Himself known to him in Matt3:16 can straighten out your error.

It is very obvious why you can’t answer — what if God really did send Jesus to show you the way to have from Him that what Jesus and these others had from Him. You are not following the teacher. You are trying to educate the teacher instead.
 

rod.ney

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FY
You are so mixed up. Only the same God who came to Jesus and made Himself known to him in Matt3:16 can straighten out your error.

It is very obvious why you can’t answer — what if God really did send Jesus to show you the way to have from Him that what Jesus and these others had from Him. You are not following the teacher. You are trying to educate the teacher instead.
I again Gary, the God of Matt.3:16 is the Holy Spirit ( the Third Divine Person of the TRINITY - One GOD ) and NOT God the Father came to God the Son ( Jesus Christ ) like a Dove at His Baptism! So once again Case closed on Gary's Twisted say so ( 2 Peter 3:16 ) that Jesus is just a man and not God the former WORD of John 1:1 also, as He was " with God " ( the Father & Holy Spirit ) in that verse BEFORE He BECAME ( FYI Gary, that is a CHANGE in He who " was God " the Word in verse 1 ) " Flesh " ( incarnate as Jesus Christ the God-Man ) in John 1:14! Therefore Gary still remains 100% REBUKED as per 2 Tim.3:16! So Yes indeed God the Father sent God the Word to become the God -man Jesus Christ to show us the way! You have been CORRECTLY told that AS IS Scriptural Truth several times now on RECORD on CARM! So read & Heed Gary!
 

Gary Mac

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FYI again Gary, the God of Matt.3:16 is the Holy Spirit ( the Third Divine Person of the TRINITY - One GOD ) and NOT God the Father came to God the Son ( Jesus Christ ) like a Dove at His Baptism! So once again Case closed on Gary's Twisted say so ( 2 Peter 3:16 ) that Jesus is just a man and not God the former WORD of John 1:1 also, as He was " with God " ( the Father & Holy Spirit ) in that verse BEFORE He BECAME ( FYI Gary, that is a CHANGE in He who " was God " the Word in verse 1 ) " Flesh " ( incarnate as Jesus Christ the God-Man ) in John 1:14! Therefore Gary still remains 100% REBUKED as per 2 Tim.3:16! So Yes indeed God the Father sent God the Word to become the God -man Jesus Christ to show us the way! You have been CORRECTLY told that AS IS Scriptural Truth several times now on RECORD on CARM! So read & Heed Gary!
FYI God comes to all and puts in us the same Spirit, mind ,word, He put in Jesus. You just don't believe Him that He does. Your dictation to Him for your ways will not allow God to show you anything.
 
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