The Bodily Resurrection & Ascension of Jesus

Gary Mac

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Just more of Gary's WRONG say ( man's word ), as I posted the scriptures ( God's inspired say so ) that CONTRADICTS Gary's say so! Case closed as God's say so OVERULES Gary's say so!
My say so? So you think that I wrote in the book that what Jesus said that you should be in the Father as he was in the Father?

You are a lot more mixed up than I originally thought.

I really can’t take credit for what Jesus said you should be like him even though you see it as my say so but thanks anyway for the kind jester.
 

rod.ney

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My say so? So you think that I wrote in the book that what Jesus said that you should be in the Father as he was in the Father?

You are a lot more mixed up than I originally thought.

I really can’t take credit for what Jesus said you should be like him even though you see it as my say so but thanks anyway for the kind jester.
FYI Gary, I'm talking about your say so that CONTRADICTS GOD's say so that the REAL Jesus Christ is BOTH God and Man as per John 1:1+14 & Heb.1:6+8! I Never said that Father was not in Him and He in the Father! Stay on Track Gary as your say so about the Real Jesus not being God also remains 100 % refuted & rebuked by those posted scriptures! Case closed!
 

Chalcedon

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Only wrong for one who has not received from God that what Jesus received from Him as He demands of us.
And He demands you call Him LORD which means God/YHWH.

You deny this therefor denying both the Father and the Son. Those who deny the Son, He will deny them before the Father-

Those are Jesus words you like to avoid like the plague.

Matthew 10:33
But everyone who denies me here on earth, I will also deny before my Father in heaven.
 

Gary Mac

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FYI Gary, I'm talking about your say so that CONTRADICTS GOD's say so that the REAL Jesus Christ is BOTH God and Man as per John 1:1+14 & Heb.1:6+8! I Never said that Father was not in Him and He in the Father! Stay on Track Gary as your say so about the Real Jesus not being God also remains 100 % refuted & rebuked by those posted scriptures! Case closed!
OK Tell me if what I have repeated Jesus said we should be like him in the Father with He in you and you in Him as one as Jesus was one in Him and perfect even as your Father in heaven is perfect with the same signs following you is my ideas?

Remarkable how you make your gods what you would have them be instead of what Jesus said you should be.

You just haven't learned the reason God sent Jesus to show you His way is all. You listen to mans opinions instead of listening to Jesus.
 

Gary Mac

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And He demands you call Him LORD which means God/YHWH.
Jesus is lord only if you follow him inn his way of the Father to be like Him and in His same image as Jesus was. If you are not like what Jesus commanded of you to be perfect even as your Father in heaven is perfect then you do not follow his ways at all therefore makes you lord over him, dictating to him your own rules.
You deny this therefor denying both the Father and the Son. Those who deny the Son, He will deny them before the Father-
To deny God to be your Father and be like your Father as Jesus did then you deny to be His son just as it states. You are not looking at this in the light of Gods eyes, Spirit, you are looking at it from what man has taught you to think about it.
Those are Jesus words you like to avoid like the plague.
Jesus words are be one in the Father just as He was on sin Him, John 17, His words were be ye therefore perfect even as your Father in heaven is perfect and have the same signs follow you who followed Jesus.

He's way worked for me and you say I avoid his way like the plague? LOL -- It isn't I who is not like Him as He demands of you as well.
Matthew 10:33
But everyone who denies me here on earth, I will also deny before my Father in heaven.
And you are denying his way to be perfect as he was in the Father and mock and condemn us who actually did follow His way to be like Him and in His same image to know the difference from your religious interpretations to actually have the mind of Christ and walk as He walks in it as Jesus did. And you say I avoid Jesus like the plague?

I am like Him, you mock and condemn Him to be like Him yourself.
 

Chalcedon

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You guys haven't learned yet that Jesus is the way to the Father is all.
1/2 truth- He who has seen Me has seen the Father, the Father and I are One.

to see you is not seeing the Father or the Son- its seeing gary the sinful man who is not God.

next
 

Gary Mac

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They worshiped Christ's mind but not Christ in Hebrews 1:6?
Thats what I said, they became Gods anointed by His Spirit no different from the anointing Jesus received from Him, which is Christ in you just as He was in Jesus.

BTW -- Spirit is ones mind. It is who we are not what we are. Good or bad the mind is the spirit of it. This is elementary christianity 101. Man is the temple of God and either you are like Him to have His same mind, Spirit, to think as He thinks or you don't.
 

rod.ney

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OK Tell me if what I have repeated Jesus said we should be like him in the Father with He in you and you in Him as one as Jesus was one in Him and perfect even as your Father in heaven is perfect with the same signs following you is my ideas?

Remarkable how you make your gods what you would have them be instead of what Jesus said you should be.

You just haven't learned the reason God sent Jesus to show you His way is all. You listen to mans opinions instead of listening to Jesus.
WRONG again Gary, it is CLEARLY You that has NOT learned the Truth in GOD's say so that the REAL Jesus Christ is both God and man as per John 1:1+14 & Heb.1:6+8! Case closed on Gary's say so that Jesus is ist a man ONLY and NOT God also!
 

rod.ney

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You guys haven't learned yet that Jesus is the way to the Father is all.
FYI Gary, several times now on record on CARM I posted John 14:6-7 that does in FACT say Jesus is the ONLY way to the Father! The problem is that you ( Gary ) have a counterfeit Jesus ( just a man ONLY ) who is NOT God like the Real Jesus is that you can ONLY get to the Father through! The Proof that He is both God and Man is in GOD's say so right in these AS IS posted scriptures ( John 1:1+14 & Heb.1:6+8 )! Case closed!
 

Gary Mac

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WRONG again Gary, it is CLEARLY You that has NOT learned the Truth in GOD's say so that the REAL Jesus Christ is both God and man as per John 1:1+14 & Heb.1:6+8! Case closed on Gary's say so that Jesus is ist a man ONLY and NOT God also!
Well if you see Jesus wrong when he commands that you come to the Father that He be in you and you be in Him as one as Jesus was one in Him who Jesus prayed to for you to be in John 17, or perfect even as your Father in heaven is perfect with the same signs following you, then I can understand why you are so confused for why God actually sent Jesus to show you the way the truth and the life to live as he did.

You have no intent in following Jesus to the Father, you are to busy forming your own gods for worship instead of following the One true God that Jesus tried with his life to get His message over to you that you may know Him, not just know about Him as is your case. You know what you have read second hand from someone else but it is very obvious you never have met Him to be like Him yourself as Jesus was and said you should be as well.
 

Gary Mac

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FYI Gary, several times now on record on CARM I posted John 14:6-7 that does in FACT say Jesus is the ONLY way to the Father! The problem is that you ( Gary ) have a counterfeit Jesus ( just a man ONLY ) who is NOT God like the Real Jesus is that you can ONLY get to the Father through! The Proof that He is both God and Man is in GOD's say so right in these AS IS posted scriptures ( John 1:1+14 & Heb.1:6+8 )! Case closed!
I have stated over and over that Jesus is the way the truth and the life and no one comes to the Father but by him, having the same in you he had in Him from the father. You just misinterpret it from lack in living His way, living His truth, and living His life as He demands of you. Jesus referred to this change from self to be like the Father of it as born again. Ye must be born again, born of God, or you never ever will know who God is.

All that you know is about three gods that you cant even relate to.
 

rod.ney

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I have stated over and over that Jesus is the way the truth and the life and no one comes to the Father but by him, having the same in you he had in Him from the father. You just misinterpret it from lack in living His way, living His truth, and living His life as He demands of you. Jesus referred to this change from self to be like the Father of it as born again. Ye must be born again, born of God, or you never ever will know who God is.

All that you know is about three gods that you cant even relate to.
Yes we do know that you have done that over & over again with a Counterfeit Christ, who you say ( Man's Word ) is not God, when GOD's inspired Word in John 1:1+14 & Heb.1:6+8 says He is in FACT God ( the Former WORD in John 1:1, who " was with God " ( the Father & Holy Spirit in the beginning before Creation Through/By Him as per John 1:3/Col.1:16 )! Case closed on your Counterfeit Jesus, Gary!
 

Gary Mac

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Yes we do know that you have done that over & over again with a Counterfeit Christ, who you say ( Man's Word ) is not God, when GOD's inspired Word in John 1:1+14 & Heb.1:6+8 says He is in FACT God ( the Former WORD in John 1:1, who " was with God " ( the Father & Holy Spirit in the beginning before Creation Through/By Him as per John 1:3/Col.1:16 )! Case closed on your Counterfeit Jesus, Gary!
Yes born again to have the mind of the creator of it all and the one that He sent to show you who you are to be like Him is counterfeit for your creed that you adhere to.
You are advocate for a creed which kills the Christ in that it is impossible for to follow Jesus to Gods anointing. His way is dead for you for you are in favor of that creed you are dedicated to instead instead of following Jesus to the same place he was in the Father. Until you are born again born of God as Jesus was you never will know Him and you will only know about Him from the creed you cling to instead of Him. You just won’t listen to God in any of His ways.

His way is — be as I Am. Your way is be as you.
 

Fred

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Yes born again to have the mind of the creator of it all and the one that He sent to show you who you are to be like Him is counterfeit for your creed that you adhere to.
You are advocate for a creed which kills the Christ in that it is impossible for to follow Jesus to Gods anointing. His way is dead for you for you are in favor of that creed you are dedicated to instead instead of following Jesus to the same place he was in the Father. Until you are born again born of God as Jesus was you never will know Him and you will only know about Him from the creed you cling to instead of Him. You just won’t listen to God in any of His ways.

His way is — be as I Am. Your way is be as you.

Your creed is a disgrace.
 

Gary Mac

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Your creed is a disgrace.
Yes I understand that the way of Christ is a disgrace for you. That is very obvious.

Christ always is a disgrace to one who opposes Him to be like Him as Jesus was like Him. Anointed of God. That is who Christ is, Christ in you, Gods anointing in you, His Spirit in you, that you may walk as He walks in His same light and perfect even as your Father in heaven is perfect.

His way truly is a creed to follow but I do understand why His way is a disgrace to your religion that you creed to and whatever that might be

You are just a little confused who Christ is because His way to be like Him and in His same image is a disgrace for you.
 

rod.ney

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Well if you see Jesus wrong when he commands that you come to the Father that He be in you and you be in Him as one as Jesus was one in Him who Jesus prayed to for you to be in John 17, or perfect even as your Father in heaven is perfect with the same signs following you, then I can understand why you are so confused for why God actually sent Jesus to show you the way the truth and the life to live as he did.

You have no intent in following Jesus to the Father, you are to busy forming your own gods for worship instead of following the One true God that Jesus tried with his life to get His message over to you that you may know Him, not just know about Him as is your case. You know what you have read second hand from someone else but it is very obvious you never have met Him to be like Him yourself as Jesus was and said you should be as well.
I do NOT see the REAL Jesus Wrong, but your Counterfeit is WRONG Gary!
Yes born again to have the mind of the creator of it all and the one that He sent to show you who you are to be like Him is counterfeit for your creed that you adhere to.
You are advocate for a creed which kills the Christ in that it is impossible for to follow Jesus to Gods anointing. His way is dead for you for you are in favor of that creed you are dedicated to instead instead of following Jesus to the same place he was in the Father. Until you are born again born of God as Jesus was you never will know Him and you will only know about Him from the creed you cling to instead of Him. You just won’t listen to God in any of His ways.

His way is — be as I Am. Your way is be as you.
And just MORE of Gary's WRONG say so ( Man's word ) that CONTRADICTS GOD's Facts ( that Jesus Christ is God in the FLESH ) in John 1:1+14 & Heb.1:6+8!
 
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