The Bodily Resurrection & Ascension of Jesus

Gary Mac

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The way of my God is Jesus Christ, we have the same father who is God. If that isn't good enough for you then I understand. Your way seems to be better then His for you. Typical for the religious minds.
 

rod.ney

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The way of my God is Jesus Christ, we have the same father who is God. If that isn't good enough for you then I understand. Your way seems to be better then His for you. Typical for the religious minds.
But here's Gary's Problem Readers, he does not UNDERSTAND that he ( Gary ) also has a Biological human father that he was begotten of! Jesus Christ does NOT have a biological human father! God ( the Father & Holy Spirit ) are CLEARLY who He ( Jesus not Gary ) was begotten of! That's why theses scriptures ( John 1:18 & 3:16+18 ) tell us that He ( Jesus and NO one else ) is the ONLY ( that means no one else like you Gary ) Begotten Son of God! Thus like I am on Record on CARM, several times now, ( since Gary can't read my post correctly ) telling Gary that ALL other human son's of God are NOT Begotten, but ADOPTED ( only once they accept the REAL Jesus - God-man as their Lord & Savior ) sons of God, as per GOD's inspired say so in Ephesians 1:5 -
he predestined us for adoption to sonship through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will—
So yes typical for Gary's mind!
 

Gary Mac

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But here's Gary's Problem Readers, he does not UNDERSTAND that he ( Gary ) also has a Biological human father that he was begotten of! Jesus Christ does NOT have a biological human father! God ( the Father & Holy Spirit ) are CLEARLY who He ( Jesus not Gary ) was begotten of! That's why theses scriptures ( John 1:18 & 3:16+18 ) tell us that He ( Jesus and NO one else ) is the ONLY ( that means no one else like you Gary ) Begotten Son of God! Thus like I am on Record on CARM, several times now, ( since Gary can't read my post correctly ) telling Gary that ALL other human son's of God are NOT Begotten, but ADOPTED ( only once they accept the REAL Jesus - God-man as their Lord & Savior ) sons of God, as per GOD's inspired say so in Ephesians 1:5 -
he predestined us for adoption to sonship through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will—
So yes typical for Gary's mind!
Gary doesn't have a problem, I and the Father are one, He sin me and I in Him are one just as Jesus was one in Him. Read John 17 and see that I am.

The real problem in your understanding is Christ in me, and that just doesn't compute with your advocate for the creed that you cling to instead of being that person of Christ that God makes us.
 

rod.ney

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Gary doesn't have a problem, I and the Father are one, He sin me and I in Him are one just as Jesus was one in Him. Read John 17 and see that I am.

The real problem in your understanding is Christ in me, and that just doesn't compute with your advocate for the creed that you cling to instead of being that person of Christ that God makes us.
WRONG again Gary because you do indeed have a problem with who the REAL Jesus Christ is because you are on record on CARM as stating ( man's word - not scripture ) the REAL Jesus Christ is just a man like you & me! GOD's inspired scriptures that I posted on record on CARM clearly tells us that He ( the Real Jesus Christ ) is both fully God ( as the Word in John 1:1 ) and fully human as a man as per the incarnation or FLESH that the WORD BECAME in John 1:14! He is worshiped as God by His created angels in Heb.1:6, just before God His Father ( that begot Him ONLY Gary as per John 1:18 & 3:16+18 ) calls Him " O God " in Hebrews 1:8! So once again readers, case closed on Gary's counterfeit Jesus Christ who is ONLY a man ( as per his say so on record on CARM ) and not God the former Word of John 1:1 also! Gary's say so remains 100% rebuked by those AS IS scriptures that I posted!
 

Gary Mac

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WRONG again Gary because you do indeed have a problem with who the REAL Jesus Christ is because you are on record on CARM as stating ( man's word - not scripture ) the REAL Jesus Christ is just a man like you & me! GOD's inspired scriptures that I posted on record on CARM clearly tells us that He ( the Real Jesus Christ ) is both fully God ( as the Word in John 1:1 ) and fully human as a man as per the incarnation or FLESH that the WORD BECAME in John 1:14! He is worshiped as God by His created angels in Heb.1:6, just before God His Father ( that begot Him ONLY Gary as per John 1:18 & 3:16+18 ) calls Him " O God " in Hebrews 1:8! So once again readers, case closed on Gary's counterfeit Jesus Christ who is ONLY a man ( as per his say so on record on CARM ) and not God the former Word of John 1:1 also! Gary's say so remains 100% rebuked by those AS IS scriptures that I posted!
The reason I don't have a problem with Jesus is we have the same father, same mind of Christ, Gods anointing, He in me and I nHim are one just as Jesus prayed to his God for me to be.

Seems Im not the one having the problem with who and what Jesus said you would be if you really did follow him to the Father that you may be like Him as well. And when, or if you ever do see Him as He is ye shall be like Him as well. 1 John 3.

There is your problem, you refuse everything Jesus said you would be in the Father if you actually followed him to the Father.

All that you do is quote scriptures that you grossly misinterpret from lack in having the same mind of God that Jesus and others had of Him.

How can you say you are of Christ if you are not of Christ, Gods anointed one, Christ in you, Gods anointing in you? Even Jesus was Gods anointed, just as Abraham , Moses, 120, even Adam came to this realization and became like Him to know this difference. Gen 3:22, but for you it is impossible to be Gods anointed, Christ in you, isn't it?
 

rod.ney

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The reason I don't have a problem with Jesus is we have the same father, same mind of Christ, Gods anointing, He in me and I nHim are one just as Jesus prayed to his God for me to be.

Seems Im not the one having the problem with who and what Jesus said you would be if you really did follow him to the Father that you may be like Him as well. And when, or if you ever do see Him as He is ye shall be like Him as well. 1 John 3.

There is your problem, you refuse everything Jesus said you would be in the Father if you actually followed him to the Father.

All that you do is quote scriptures that you grossly misinterpret from lack in having the same mind of God that Jesus and others had of Him.

How can you say you are of Christ if you are not of Christ, Gods anointed one, Christ in you, Gods anointing in you? Even Jesus was Gods anointed, just as Abraham , Moses, 120, even Adam came to this realization and became like Him to know this difference. Gen 3:22, but for you it is impossible to be Gods anointed, Christ in you, isn't it?
There you go again readers, Gary has once again told Lies about me and then NEVER posted ANY scriptures that proves his say so ( Man's word ) is correct! I posted AS IS scriptures ( No WRONG interpretation on AS IS scriptures Gary ) that CLEARLY Proves the ONLY Begotten Son of God is Jesus Christ as Per John 1:18 & 3:16+18 )! So you're ( NOT Me ) the one with the PROBLEM of Correctly interpreting those AS IS scriptures that say ONLY because you make ONLY out to be WAY more than ONE when you say that you and All born again people are Begotten Sons of God! So Gary, you must Prove that the word ONLY in those 3 Posted AS IS scriptures, means more than One ( Just Jesus )! So have at it Gary and Here are those AS IS scriptures posted right here for all to see your Twisted view ( 2 Peter 3:16 ) that ONLY means more than just one ( Jesus Christ )! ----------------------------------

John 1:18
New King James Version

18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.------------------------

John 3:16
New King James Version

16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. -----------------------​

John 3:18
New King James Version

18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. ---------------------------- So Gary tell us ( this is your Problem not mine Gary ) how you are a Begotten Son of God, when those 3 AS IS posted scriptures say the Jesus Christ is the ONLY Begotten Son of God?!!!!! And don't forget that I also posted that ALL other human sons of God are ADOPTED and NOT Begotten! Here's that verse -------------------

Ephesians 1:5
New King James Version

5 having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will,
 

Gary Mac

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There you go again readers, Gary has once again told Lies about me and then NEVER posted ANY scriptures that proves his say so ( Man's word ) is correct! I posted AS IS scriptures ( No WRONG interpretation on AS IS scriptures Gary ) that CLEARLY Proves the ONLY Begotten Son of God is Jesus Christ as Per John 1:18 & 3:16+18 )! So you're ( NOT Me ) the one with the PROBLEM of Correctly interpreting those AS IS scriptures that say ONLY because you make ONLY out to be WAY more than ONE when you say that you and All born again people are Begotten Sons of God! So Gary, you must Prove that the word ONLY in those 3 Posted AS IS scriptures, means more than One ( Just Jesus )! So have at it Gary and Here are those AS IS scriptures posted right here for all to see your Twisted view ( 2 Peter 3:16 ) that ONLY means more than just one ( Jesus Christ )! ----------------------------------

John 1:18​

New King James Version​

18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.------------------------

John 3:16​

New King James Version​

16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. -----------------------​

John 3:18​

New King James Version​

18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. ---------------------------- So Gary tell us ( this is your Problem not mine Gary ) how you are a Begotten Son of God, when those 3 AS IS posted scriptures say the Jesus Christ is the ONLY Begotten Son of God?!!!!! And don't forget that I also posted that ALL other human sons of God are ADOPTED and NOT Begotten! Here's that verse -------------------

Ephesians 1:5​

New King James Version​

5 having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will,
I only repeat what you say of your gods and yourself, if it is a lie then you perpetrated it. Your own words puts you under conviction for not having from God that what Jesus had from Him that you may walk as He walks in His same light as Jesus did with the same signs following as God sent Jesus show show you what it is to be in the Father yourself. .
 

Gary Mac

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There you go again readers, Gary has once again told Lies about me and then NEVER posted ANY scriptures that proves his say so ( Man's word ) is correct! I posted AS IS scriptures ( No WRONG interpretation on AS IS scriptures Gary ) that CLEARLY Proves the ONLY Begotten Son of God is Jesus Christ as Per John 1:18 & 3:16+18 )! So you're ( NOT Me ) the one with the PROBLEM of Correctly interpreting those AS IS scriptures that say ONLY because you make ONLY out to be WAY more than ONE when you say that you and All born again people are Begotten Sons of God! So Gary, you must Prove that the word ONLY in those 3 Posted AS IS scriptures, means more than One ( Just Jesus )! So have at it Gary and Here are those AS IS scriptures posted right here for all to see your Twisted view ( 2 Peter 3:16 ) that ONLY means more than just one ( Jesus Christ )! ----------------------------------

John 1:18​

New King James Version​

18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.------------------------

John 3:16​

New King James Version​

16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. -----------------------​

John 3:18​

New King James Version​

18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. ---------------------------- So Gary tell us ( this is your Problem not mine Gary ) how you are a Begotten Son of God, when those 3 AS IS posted scriptures say the Jesus Christ is the ONLY Begotten Son of God?!!!!! And don't forget that I also posted that ALL other human sons of God are ADOPTED and NOT Begotten! Here's that verse -------------------

Ephesians 1:5​

New King James Version​

5 having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will,
My God is the same One Jesus obeyed and prayed to. You have a different god from the one Jesus had.
 

Our Lord's God

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My God is the same One Jesus obeyed and prayed to. You have a different god from the one Jesus had.

They resort to this idolatry because they do not want to serve his God but one of their own making so that they themselves might be served rather than the Living God.
 

Gary Mac

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They resort to this idolatry because they do not want to serve his God but one of their own making so that they themselves might be served rather than the Living God.
Absolutely, these do not have a clue who the God was Jesus prayed to and obeyed, let alone be like Him. But if these ever see Him as He is as Jesus saw Him and Adam saw Him, and Abraham, Moses, 120, saw Him ye shall be like Him as well as all of these were.

These has no living god, they all wait for a man to come as a god someday instead of opening the door to the One who is at their door this day where He will come and sup with them and BE IN THEM. Jesus didn't have a problem with God be in Him at all but these sure do.
 

rod.ney

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My God is the same One Jesus obeyed and prayed to. You have a different god from the one Jesus had.
Stay on Track Gary and Prove that the AS IS posted scriptures ( that I posted ) are WRONG to say that Jesus Christ is the ONLY Begotten Son of God! The readers can't wait to see your next say so with no posted scriptures to back it up with!
 

rod.ney

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I only repeat what you say of your gods and yourself, if it is a lie then you perpetrated it. Your own words puts you under conviction for not having from God that what Jesus had from Him that you may walk as He walks in His same light as Jesus did with the same signs following as God sent Jesus show show you what it is to be in the Father yourself. .
FYI again Gary, I never said on record on CARM that I have gods! So stop telling those lies! I have One GOD ( TRINITY ) composed of FSHS in Matt.28:19! And the scriptures that I posted on record on CARM says each of those 3 Divine Persons can be called God ( Not god ) Gary! Here's those AS IS scriptures that call all 3 God ( not god ) --- John 1:1 ; Acts 5:3-4 & Heb.1:8!
 

Gary Mac

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FYI again Gary, I never said on record on CARM that I have gods! So stop telling those lies! I have One GOD ( TRINITY ) composed of FSHS in Matt.28:19! And the scriptures that I posted on record on CARM says each of those 3 Divine Persons can be called God ( Not god ) Gary! Here's those AS IS scriptures that call all 3 God ( not god ) --- John 1:1 ; Acts 5:3-4 & Heb.1:8!
If you knew and had the one true God that Jesus prayed to and obeyed, then you wouldn't have a three god belief system. And the scriptures you posted are of your own understanding and not of Gods understanding at all.
 

Gary Mac

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FYI again Gary, I never said on record on CARM that I have gods! So stop telling those lies! I have One GOD ( TRINITY ) composed of FSHS in Matt.28:19! And the scriptures that I posted on record on CARM says each of those 3 Divine Persons can be called God ( Not god ) Gary! Here's those AS IS scriptures that call all 3 God ( not god ) --- John 1:1 ; Acts 5:3-4 & Heb.1:8!
You really do not know why God sent Jesus to show us His way to be like Him do you? Which is His salvation that we be like Him. And as long as you do not follow Jesus to the One who does save you from yourself and to walk as He walks in His same light, then you never will know the God Who sent Jesus to lead you to Him, that He may be one in you and you in Him as one as Jesus was one in Him. See Jesus prayer to his God for you to be in John 7.
 

rod.ney

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If you knew and had the one true God that Jesus prayed to and obeyed, then you wouldn't have a three god belief system. And the scriptures you posted are of your own understanding and not of Gods understanding at all.
There you go again readers, Gary keeps on WRONGFULLY stating that I have 3 gods! I always post God with a capital G and not small g like Gary does! Only angels & humans are called gods in the scriptures! Jesus, the Father , and the Holy Spirit are called God ( Not god ) in John 1:1 ; Acts 5:3-4 & Heb.1:8! Case closed Gary!
 

Gary Mac

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There you go again readers, Gary keeps on WRONGFULLY stating that I have 3 gods! I always post God with a capital G and not small g like Gary does! Only angels & humans are called gods in the scriptures! Jesus, the Father , and the Holy Spirit are called God ( Not god ) in John 1:1 ; Acts 5:3-4 & Heb.1:8! Case closed Gary!
And again, and agin, that God sent Jesus to show me the way to Him. He really is the way the truth and the life but for whatever reason, He is not your way your truth or your life that you may live from the Father that Jesus did, the one God sent to show you His way that you might receive the promise of Him coming to you and sup with you and be in you. You never have met the one true God Who sent Jesus too show you His way, that is so so obvious.

Jesus way just isn't good enough for you, that is why you dictate to your gods what you would have them all be.
 

rod.ney

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And again, and agin, that God sent Jesus to show me the way to Him. He really is the way the truth and the life but for whatever reason, He is not your way your truth or your life that you may live from the Father that Jesus did, the one God sent to show you His way that you might receive the promise of Him coming to you and sup with you and be in you. You never have met the one true God Who sent Jesus too show you His way, that is so so obvious.

Jesus way just isn't good enough for you, that is why you dictate to your gods what you would have them all be.
And there you go again readers, Gary just told more Lies! The Real Jesus Christ ( God-Man as per John 1:1-18 & 8:58 and Heb.1:6+8 ) is indeed the ONLY one for me! It is clear that the Real Jesus Christ is NOT good enough for Gary to follow because Gary has invented ( by going against those AS Is scriptures that I posted ) his own Jesus ( just a man or Counterfeit ) to follow!
 

Gary Mac

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And there you go again readers, Gary just told more Lies! The Real Jesus Christ ( God-Man as per John 1:1-18 & 8:58 and Heb.1:6+8 ) is indeed the ONLY one for me! It is clear that the Real Jesus Christ is NOT good enough for Gary to follow because Gary has invented ( by going against those AS Is scriptures that I posted ) his own Jesus ( just a man or Counterfeit ) to follow!
The lie is God is a man.
 

rod.ney

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The lie is God is a man.
FYI Gary GOD is a Trinity ( FSHS - Matt.28:19 ) and it just so happens that God the Son is both God and Man as per John 1:1+14 & Heb.1:6+8! Therefore Gary is still telling Twisted ( 2 Peter 3:16 ) say so (man's word ) that the real Jesus Christ is just a man ONLY! Cae closed Gary!
 

Gary Mac

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FYI Gary GOD is a Trinity ( FSHS - Matt.28:19 ) and it just so happens that God the Son is both God and Man as per John 1:1+14 & Heb.1:6+8! Therefore Gary is still telling Twisted ( 2 Peter 3:16 ) say so (man's word ) that the real Jesus Christ is just a man ONLY! Cae closed Gary!
No -- your god is a trinity, the God Jesus prayed to and obeyed and called Father and said sent him to show you the way to his God is One Spirit and man is the temple of Him just as Jesus was the temple of God. And so am I no different at all. You are supposed to be the same as He as well, but because you have split up your gods into segments there is no way the One true God who came to Jesus can come to you.

Again, Jesus didn't know God or His heaven until God came to him by His Spirit and opens up who He is to that man.

See Matt 3:16 that you do not believe at all. That is why you have three segmented gods instead of One true one.
 
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