The Bodily Resurrection & Ascension of Jesus

[Slyzr]

The one God sent to show you the way to the Father for Him to be in you as He was in Jesus is a different one from the one you have created to obey your beliefs of him.

So that is it ..... you found the "way".

And every one else is so-post to repent and genuflect?

 

[Gary Mac]

FYI the Trinity does NOT consist of 3 gods as you again WRONFULLY said! Those 3 Divine Persons ( FSHS ) are called " God " and Not god! You are the one with a god ( just a man ) that you follow Gary! True born again Christians accept & Follow the Real Jesus Christ who is God-Man as per these posted AS IS scriptures - John 1:1+14 & 8:58 and Heb.1:8 in conjunction with Isaiah 9:6! Case closed on Gary's counterfeit jesus who is just a man as per Gary's own say so ( man's word )!

God is not a person at all. God is A Spirit and that Spirit is Love and man is the temple of Him. Only you are not His temple is very clear.

There is no such thing as a god man. You watch to many Marvel Movies.

 

[Gary Mac]

So that is it ..... you found the "way".

Yes He in me and I in him are one. John 17. ANd when you see Him as He is ye shall be like Him to. 1 John 3.

And every one else is so-post to repent and genuflect?

I cat speak for others, either they are like Him or they are not. And you know very well if you are like Him or not. That isnt my judgment that is yours. All I can do is compare what people say of themselves and their gods and compare with what Jesus said you will be IF! it isnt to hard to see who is like Him as Jesus was like Him and who isnt.

 

[Gary Mac]

Now Gary thinks ( Man's word ) that there is no such thing as a SPIRIT Person! Well there is indeed Spirit Persons such as God the Father & Holy Spirit and the WORD who became Jesus Christ! Also all created angels are spirit persons! Case closed as Gary hardly EVER knows what he is talking about! Gary continues to follow his counterfeit jesus ( just a man as per his say so )! The Real Jesus Christ is both fully God and fully human as a man as per John 1:1+14!

Every person who has from God His SPirit is of SPirit, His SPirit, and everyone who is not like Him in His SPirit is of their own spirit. You are of your own spirit that is very clear in that and trying to regulate, dictate, His SPirit to suit your own.

 

[rod.ney]

Every person who has from God His SPirit is of SPirit, His SPirit, and everyone who is not like Him in His SPirit is of their own spirit. You are of your own spirit that is very clear in that and trying to regulate, dictate, His SPirit to suit your own.

What does that have to do with a spirit not being a person Gary?!!!!!! There are in Fact spirit persons! Stay on TRACK! Case closed!

 

[rod.ney]

God is not a person at all. God is A Spirit and that Spirit is Love and man is the temple of Him. Only you are not His temple is very clear.

There is no such thing as a god man. You watch to many Marvel Movies.

GOD consists of 3 SPIRITS ( FSHS - Matt.28:19 ) that are Divine Persons! The WORD ( Spirit - Divine Person ) in John 1:1 " was God " and was " with God " the Father & Holy Spirit ( both Divine Spirit Persons )! So yes indeed there is a Spirit Person called God in John 1:1 ( Scriptures and Not Marvel movies as Gary wrongfully stated ), who became FLESH in John 1:14 ( God the Word in the Flesh - not Gary's Marvel Movies ) as Jesus Christ ( the God-Man )! Jesus is not just a man as Gary WRONGFULLY states ( Man's Word ) because God the Father calls ONLY that Son ( Jesus Christ ) " O God " in Heb.1:8! Even the OT in Isaiah 9:6 tells us that THAT child ( Jesus Christ ) to be born ( in John 1:14 ) is called " Mighty God "! Thus Gary & his Twisted say so ( 2 Peter 3:16 ) remains 100% rebuked as per 2 Tim.3:16! Case closed!

 

[Gary Mac]

What does that have to do with a spirit not being a person Gary?!!!!!! There are in Fact spirit persons! Stay on TRACK! Case closed!

Every person has a spirit, it is who we are not what we are, but few are of Gods Spirit. few who has found His way to be like Him by the same SPirit be in you who was in Christ Jesus. You will never know the SPirit of God as long as a man is your god.

 

[Gary Mac]

GOD consists of 3 SPIRITS ( FSHS - Matt.28:19 ) that are Divine Persons! The WORD ( Spirit - Divine Person ) in John 1:1 " was God " and was " with God " the Father & Holy Spirit ( both Divine Spirit Persons )! So yes indeed there is a Spirit Person called God in John 1:1 ( Scriptures and Not Marvel movies as Gary wrongfully stated ), who became FLESH in John 1:14 ( God the Word in the Flesh - not Gary's Marvel Movies ) as Jesus Christ ( the God-Man )! Jesus is not just a man as Gary WRONGFULLY states ( Man's Word ) because God the Father calls ONLY that Son ( Jesus Christ ) " O God " in Heb.1:8! Even the OT in Isaiah 9:6 tells us that THAT child ( Jesus Christ ) to be born ( in John 1:14 ) is called " Mighty God "! Thus Gary & his Twisted say so ( 2 Peter 3:16 ) remains 100% rebuked as per 2 Tim.3:16! Case closed!

God is not a person at all, God is a Spirit and man is the temple of Him. Except for you of course.

 

[rod.ney]

God is not a person at all, God is a Spirit and man is the temple of Him. Except for you of course.

And the Spirit is a Divine Person! Case closed Gary! And ONLY born again peoples Mortal Lowly Bodies are the Temple of Him! So you need to become born again Gary by accepting the REAL Jesus Christ ( God-Man as per John 1:1+14 & 8:58 and Heb.1:8 in conjunction with Isaiah 9:6 ) as your Lord & Savior and give up on following your counterfeit jesus ( just a man as per your say so - man's word )!

 

[Gary Mac]

And the Spirit is a Divine Person!

I suppose you could say that for I am of His divine Spirit.

Case closed Gary! And ONLY born again peoples Mortal Lowly Bodies are the Temple of Him!

Yep -- Either you are like Him or you are not.

So you need to become born again Gary by accepting the REAL Jesus Christ

You mean born again in your terms for him.

( God-Man as per John 1:1+14 & 8:58 and Heb.1:8 in conjunction with Isaiah 9:6 ) as your Lord & Savior and give up on following your counterfeit jesus ( just a man as per your say so - man's word )!

God man? My God is the same One Jesus had in himself. He in me and I in him are one just as Jesus was one in Him.

 

[101G]

@Gary Mac, if you agree with rod.ney in that the "Spirit" is a divine person, and you said, "I suppose you could say that for I am of His divine Spirit."
ok, if you're of his divine "Spirit", I ask again, what was the "spirit" in the temple of Chrst body AT BIRTH, BEFORE the Spirit came upon him at Matthews 3:16?

was it a human "spirit" as you and I have, or was it the divine "spirit" himself .... "God". we say, divine, ..... "God".

PICJAG, 101G.

 

[Gary Mac]

@Gary Mac, if you agree with rod.ney in that the "Spirit" is a divine person, and you said, "I suppose you could say that for I am of His divine Spirit."
ok, if you're of his divine "Spirit", I ask again, what was the "spirit" in the temple of Chrst body AT BIRTH, BEFORE the Spirit came upon him at Matthews 3:16?

was it a human "spirit" as you and I have, or was it the divine "spirit" himself .... "God". we say, divine, ..... "God".

PICJAG, 101G.

Again, and again, and again -- Human. Human spirit is of opinion about a god. And by His SPirit, mind, if you are not like Him then you are of human spirit about a god. .

 

[rossh]

Without the bodily resurrection which was permanent one has no Savior and you are still dead in your sins according to the Apostle Paul. 1 Corinthians 15:17

Many deny Jesus was Resurrected and Ascended into heaven bodily( a human body with real flesh and bones) and are still dead in their sins even though they might claim to be a christian. That is an oxymoron.

Luke 24:37-43
37 But they were startled and frightened and thought that they were seeing a spirit. 38 And He said to them, "Why are you troubled, and why do doubts arise in your hearts? 39 "See My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself; touch Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have." 40 And when He had said this, He showed them His hands and His feet. 41 While they still could not believe it because of their joy and amazement, He said to them, "Have you anything here to eat?" 42 They gave Him a piece of a broiled fish; 43 and He took it and ate it before them.

John 20:24-25
24 But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came. 25 So the other disciples were saying to him, "We have seen the Lord!" But he said to them, "Unless I see in His hands the imprint of the nails, and put my finger into the place of the nails, and put my hand into His side, I will not believe."

John 20:27-28
27 Then he said to Thomas, "Put your finger here; see My hands. Reach out your hand and put it into My side. Stop doubting and believe." 28 Thomas said to him, "My Lord and my God!"

There is one Mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. (1Timothy 2:5) post ascension.

Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever.(Hebrews 13:5) Changeless, Immutable. Jesus was a man when He walked this earth, when He Ascended and when He will return again at His 2nd Coming.

1 Corinthians 15:1-8
Now I make known to you, brethren, the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received, in which also you stand, 2 by which also you are saved, if you hold fast the word which I preached to you, unless you believed in vain.

3 For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5 and that He appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve. 6 After that He appeared to more than five hundred brethren at one time, most of whom remain until now, but some have fallen asleep; 7 then He appeared to James, then to all the apostles; 8 and last of all, as to one untimely born, He appeared to me also.

1 Corinthians 15:14-18
14 and if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is vain, your faith also is vain. 15 Moreover we are even found to be false witnesses of God, because we testified against God that He raised Christ, whom He did not raise, if in fact the dead are not raised. 16 For if the dead are not raised, not even Christ has been raised; 17 and if Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless; you are still in your sins.

2 Corinthians 5:1-10
For we know that when this earthly tent we live in is taken down (that is, when we die and leave this earthly body), we will have a house in heaven, an eternal body made for us by God himself and not by human hands. 2 We grow weary in our present bodies, and we long to put on our heavenly bodies like new clothing. 3 For we will put on heavenly bodies; we will not be spirits without bodies. 4 While we live in these earthly bodies, we groan and sigh, but it's not that we want to die and get rid of these bodies that clothe us. Rather, we want to put on our new bodies so that these dying bodies will be swallowed up by life. 5 God himself has prepared us for this, and as a guarantee he has given us his Holy Spirit.6 So we are always confident, even though we know that as long as we live in these bodies we are not at home with the Lord. 7 For we live by believing and not by seeing. 8 Yes, we are fully confident, and we would rather be away from these earthly bodies, for then we will be at home with the Lord. 9 So whether we are here in this body or away from this body, our goal is to please him.


In Heaven.... Hebrews 8:1 Now of the things which we have spoken [this is] the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;

8:2 A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.

Look up the meaning of the word soma below, it always means a physical body in relation to anthropos(man).

His Body.....Philippians 3:20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:

Philippians 3:21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

Matthew 27:52-53
52 The tombs broke open and the bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. 53 They came out of the tombs, and after Jesus' resurrection they went into the holy city and appeared to many people.

Philippians 3:20-21
And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ, 21 who, by the power that enables him to bring everything under his control, will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like his glorious body.

1 Corinthians 15:44-45
44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.

Paul said in 1 Corinthians 15 that if Christ be not risen your faith is in vain and you are still dead in your sins- an unbeliever who is lost. Those who deny the physical bodily resurrection of Jesus such as the JW's who teach that Jesus is now a spirit based being fit into this camp. They deny the resurrection.

If we look at what Paul is saying in this passage, it is that corruptible flesh and blood shall not enter the kingdom. Paul says corruptible does not inherit the incorruptible. Paul is not saying the resurrection body will not have flesh but what he declares is that the resurrected body will not have perishable flesh. Remember in Luke Jesus said see here My hands and feet, touch Me a spirit/ghost does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have. Peter, Paul and John all agree that Jesus still had flesh well after His ascension. 1 John being the last of the books of the three Apostles declared that Jesus having come in the flesh and those who deny this are the spirit of antichrist. John makes it clear that the Incarnation was permanent. Jesus is forever both God and man. This is what Paul teaches in the whole 15th chapter of 1 Corinthians. The glorious physical bodies that we will have in the resurrection. We will have incorruptible bodies just as Jesus now has in heaven.

hope this helps !!!

Also you may have forgotten this message. We are told in Romans 10 how to claim our individual salvation..
CJB Romans 10:
Brothers, my heart’s deepest desire and my prayer to God for Isra’el is for their salvation; 2 for I can testify to their zeal for God. But it is not based on correct understanding; 3 for, since they are unaware of God’s way of making people righteous and instead seek to set up their own, they have not submitted themselves to God’s way of making people righteous. 4 For the goal at which the Torah aims is the Messiah, who offers righteousness to everyone who trusts. 5 For Moshe writes about the righteousness grounded in the Torah that the person who does these things will attain life through them.[a] 6 Moreover, the righteousness grounded in trusting says:


Amen!

 

[guest1]

Again, and again, and again -- Human. Human spirit is of opinion about a god. And by His SPirit, mind, if you are not like Him then you are of human spirit about a god. .

You ran away once again from his direct question about Christ at His birth and avoided it which is very telling gary.

 

[Gary Mac]

You ran away once again from his direct question about Christ at His birth and avoided it which is very telling gary.

In what way? I have stated over and over that Jesus was made of a woman born under the law. If that is incorrect then Paul was incorrect.

As far as Christ Christ simply means Gods anointed, and either Christ is in you and you are anointed of God just as Jesus was anointed of God or you are not.

It is obvious you do not understand that Christ is man anointed of God, and Jesus didnt even know God or His SPirit until God came to him and opened up who he is. see Matt 3:16. But because you cant relate to being born of God yourself Matt 3:16 doesnt mean what it says for you. There is One that you do not know.

ANd I do not think you understand that Jesus last name was not Christ but was the disposition of him who was anointed of God. In which is very telling civic.

Every single person on this planet is virgin to Gods SPirit until He comes to you as He did in Mary, in Abraham, in Moses, in Jesus in Matt 3:16, in 120 in an upper room and all today. No one is born of God at natural birth. But when you do see Him as He is ye shall be like Him as well. 1 John 3. And in V 9 we all who are born of God it is impossible to be in sin just as it was impossible for Jesus to be in sin for he was born of God the same.

Most of you here say Jesus was God. Tell me how when Jesus came to his mother Mary and impregnated her and she gave birth to him how that might work civic ? Can you not see how ridiculous that is?

And dont tell me that God became a man, He didnt, He always has been SPirit and He never has changed, all you are doing is changing your god to flesh that you can relate to because you cant relate to the One who came to Jesus and opened all of His heaven to him just as He did others and all today who will receive Him as your own mind. Man is the temple of Him and so was Jesus.

 

[guest1]

In what way? I have stated over and over that Jesus was made of a woman born under the law. If that is incorrect then Paul was incorrect.

As far as Christ Christ simply means Gods anointed, and either Christ is in you and you are anointed of God just as Jesus was anointed of God or you are not.

It is obvious you do not understand that Christ is man anointed of God, and Jesus didnt even know God or His SPirit until God came to him and opened up who he is. see Matt 3:16. But because you cant relate to being born of God yourself Matt 3:16 doesnt mean what it says for you. There is One that you do not know.

ANd I do not think you understand that Jesus last name was not Christ but was the disposition of him who was anointed of God. In which is very telling civic.

Every single person on this planet is virgin to Gods SPirit until He comes to you as He did in Mary, in Abraham, in Moses, in Jesus in Matt 3:16, in 120 in an upper room and all today. No one is born of God at natural birth. But when you do see Him as He is ye shall be like Him as well. 1 John 3. And in V 9 we all who are born of God it is impossible to be in sin just as it was impossible for Jesus to be in sin for he was born of God the same.

Most of you here say Jesus was God. Tell me how when Jesus came to his mother Mary and impregnated her and she gave birth to him how that might work civic ? Can you not see how ridiculous that is?

And dont tell me that God became a man, He didnt, He always has been SPirit and He never has changed, all you are doing is changing your god to flesh that you can relate to because you cant relate to the One who came to Jesus and opened all of His heaven to him just as He did others and all today who will receive Him as your own mind. Man is the temple of Him and so was Jesus.

still avoided the Divine Spirit question which was to be expected.

 

[Gary Mac]

still avoided the Divine Spirit question which was to be expected.

Oh no not at all. I do not avoid His divinity at all.

Gods divine SPirit is at work in us all who has received Him to be anointed of God. Even Jesus was anointed of God and walks in His divine nature just as we all do who has received the same from God.

You seem to have a problem with His divine SPirit be your own disposition?

 

[guest1]

Also you may have forgotten this message. We are told in Romans 10 how to claim our individual salvation..
CJB Romans 10:
Brothers, my heart’s deepest desire and my prayer to God for Isra’el is for their salvation; 2 for I can testify to their zeal for God. But it is not based on correct understanding; 3 for, since they are unaware of God’s way of making people righteous and instead seek to set up their own, they have not submitted themselves to God’s way of making people righteous. 4 For the goal at which the Torah aims is the Messiah, who offers righteousness to everyone who trusts. 5 For Moshe writes about the righteousness grounded in the Torah that the person who does these things will attain life through them.[a] 6 Moreover, the righteousness grounded in trusting says:


Amen!

And what does your above comments and scripture have to do with the Bodily Resurrection/Ascension of Jesus ?

Can you elaborate ?

 

[rod.ney]

Oh no not at all. I do not avoid His divinity at all.

Gods divine SPirit is at work in us all who has received Him to be anointed of God. Even Jesus was anointed of God and walks in His divine nature just as we all do who has received the same from God.

You seem to have a problem with His divine SPirit be your own disposition?

Oh yes you do ( deny His Divinity ) Gary because you keep on saying ( On Record on CARM ) that the REAL Jesus Christ is just a man! FYI again Gary, the REAL Jesus Christ is BOTH God and Man or God-Man as per John 1:1+14 ( God the WORD in verse 1 became Flesh as Jesus Christ the God-Man in verse 14 )! Case closed!

 

[Gary Mac]

Oh yes you do ( deny His Divinity ) Gary because you keep on saying ( On Record on CARM ) that the REAL Jesus Christ is just a man! FYI again Gary, the REAL Jesus Christ is BOTH God and Man or God-Man as per John 1:1+14 ( God the WORD in verse 1 became Flesh as Jesus Christ the God-Man in verse 14 )! Case closed!

Well your god is a man, my God and the One Jesus prayed to and obeyed and said was in Him is the same one who is in me. His divine nature was at work in Jesus and it is at work in us all has the same from Him as Jesus had from Him.

You just have a separate God from the One who came to Jesus and reveled Himself in Jesus, Matt 3:16 is all.

There is One that you do not know.