The Bodily Resurrection & Ascension of Jesus

So Jesus is god - how can the spirit make a man who is only man ?
No your god is a man, the God who came to Jesus and opened all of His heaven to that man is Spirit, same One who came to all of these before and after Jesus and same one who comes to us all today and opens His heaven to us.
Prove that is what happens to us
That is up to you to let God prove Himself in you, that isn't up to Jesus or any other man, only God come to you and manifest Himself in you as He did in Jesus and all who has received Him can prove Himself. But you wont let Him is all.
Your evidence is?
Same Spirit in me who was in Christ Jesus.
Yes - please
 
Jesus is forever God in the flesh ( Incarnate)
yes God came into that man from the outward inward just as He is incarnate in us all who has received Him within.
Colossians 2:9
King James Bible
For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily
Yes He is the head of my body. He opens all of His heaven to all who will receive Him.
Now read the Greek below on the present ongoing meaning of DWELLS . The bodily dwelling of Deity is permanent not temporary. The Incarnation was PERMANENT.
Amen I cannot be seperated from Him
κατοικεῖ (katoikei)
Verb - Present Indicative Active - 3rd Person Singular
Strong's Greek 2730: To dwell in, settle in, be established in (permanently), inhabit. From kata and oikeo; to house permanently, i.e. Reside.


8.2 σωματικός, ή, όν; σωματικῶςa: (derivatives of σῶμαa ‘body,’ 8.1) pertaining to a physical body—‘bodily, physical, bodily form.’[1] Louw Nida

Expositor's Greek Testament
Colossians 2:9. in Him and in Him alone.—κατοικεῖ: “permanently dwells”. The reference is to the Exalted State, not only on account of the present, but of the context and Paul’s Christology generally.—πᾶν τὸ πλήρωμα τῆς θεότητος: “all the fulness of the Godhead”. πᾶν is emphatic, the whole fulness dwells in Christ.

Body
sōmatikṓs (an adverb, derived from 4984 /sōmatikós which is an adjective derived from 4983 /sṓma, "body") – bodily(used only in Col 2:9)Loew & Nida Greek Lexicon

Never once in the NT is soma ever used of something nonphysical or immaterial .

Paul is talking in Colossians chapters 2-3 about the glorified resurrected Christ now seated at the right hand of God not the earthly Christ pre resurrection. This is a slam dunk that He is in a human glorified resurrection body and that He continues to have all the fullness of Deity dwelling bodily in the present.

Christ is not a person at all, Christ is the person who is anointed of God by His Spirit. Christ in you is not a person, Christ in you is you anointed of Gods Spirit, Or is supposed to be of Christ.
Bodily (σωματικῶς) In bodily fashion or bodily-wise. The verse contains two distinct assertions: 1. That the fullness of the Godhead eternally dwells in Christ. The present tense κατοικεῖ dwelleth, is used like ἐστιν is (the image), Colossians 1:15, to denote an eternal and essential characteristic of Christ's being. The indwelling of the divine fullness in Him is characteristic of Him as Christ, from all ages and to all ages. Hence the fullness of the Godhead dwelt in Him before His incarnation, when He was "in the form of God" (Philippians 2:6). The Word in the beginning, was with God and was God (John 1:1). It dwelt in Him during His incarnation. It was the Word that became flesh and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth, and His glory which was beheld was the glory as of the Only begotten of the Father (John 1:14; compare 1 John 1:1-3). The fullness of the Godhead dwells in His glorified humanity in heaven.
Yes and the kingdom of God doesnt come with observation, it is within you, or is supposed to be within you. Luke 17:20-21
2. The fullness of the Godhead dwells in Him in a bodily way, clothed the body. This means that it dwells in Him as one having a human body. This could not be true of His preincarnate state, when He was "in the form of God," for the human body was taken on by Him in the fullness of time, when "He became in the likeness of men" (Philippians 2:7), when the Word became flesh. The fullness of the Godhead dwelt in His person from His birth to His ascension. He carried His human body with Him into heaven, and in His glorified body now and ever dwells the fullness of the Godhead. Vincent Greek Word Studies

Oh no no flesh inherits the kingdom of God. Heaven is the state of ones being it isnt a place to observe.
(2:9) Commenting on the contents of this verse, Lightfoot says; “The apostle justifies the foregoing charge that the doctrine was not according to Christ: ‘In Christ dwells the whole plērōma (πληρωμα) (fulness, plenitude), the entire fulness of the Godhead, whereas they represent it to you as dispersed among several spiritual agencies. Christ is the fountain-head of all spiritual life, whereas they teach you to seek it in communion with inferior creatures.’ ”

“Dwelleth” is katoikei (κατοικει). Oikeō (Ὀικεω) means “to be at home.” Kata (Κατα), prefixed, means “down,” thus showing permanence. The compound verb was used of the permanent residents of a town as compared with the transient community. The verb is in the present tense, showing durative action. The translation reads: “Because in Him there is continuously and permanently at home all the fulness of the Godhead in bodily fashion.”

Either God is at home in His temple or He is not. Where is the temple of God? You dont know do you.
Bodily (σωματικῶς). In bodily fashion or bodily-wise. The verse contains two distinct assertions: 1. That the fulness of the Godhead eternally dwells in Christ. The present tense κατοικεῖ dwelleth, is used like ἐστιν is (the image), ch. 1:15, to denote an eternal and essential characteristic of Christ’s being. The indwelling of the divine fulness in Him is characteristic of Him as Christ, from all ages and to all ages. Hence the fulness of the Godhead dwelt in Him before His incarnation, when He was “in the form of God” (Philip. 2:6). The Word in the beginning was with God and was God (John 1:1). It dwelt in Him during His incarnation. It was the Word that became flesh and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth, and His glory which was beheld was the glory as of the Only-begotten of the Father (John 1:14; compare 1 John 1:1–3). The fulness of the Godhead dwells in His glorified humanity in heaven.
Again He is the head of my body, He directs this body all I have to do is obey and let Him have it. You dont understand what it is for Him to be the head of your body do you? The godhead bodily?
2. The fulness of the Godhead dwells in Him in a bodily way, clothed with a body. This means that it dwells in Him as one having a human body. This could not be true of His preincarnate state, when He was “in the form of God,” for the human body was taken on by Him in the fulness of time, when “He became in the likeness of men” (Philip. 2:7), when the Word became flesh. The fulness of the Godhead dwelt in His person from His birth to His ascension. He carried His human body with Him into heaven, and in His glorified body now and ever dwells the fulness of the Godhead[1] Word Studies in the Greek New Testament

hope this helps !!!

It helps me understand that He is not the head of your body but is supposed to be. Man is the temple of Him but seems your not it?
 
You still havent posted where an angel said Jesus was God
Matt 1 21 And she will bring forth a Son, and you shall call His name [h]Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins.” - Only God can save from sins.

the Prophet called him god - Matt 1 22 So all this was done that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the Lord through the prophet, saying: 23 “Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel,” which is translated, “God with us.”
 
You still havent posted where an angel said Jesus was God and not Gods son.
I'll do one Better than the angels calling Jesus Christ " God " ! Here's God the Father calling Him ( His ONLY begotten Son of John 1:18 - Jesus Christ ) " O God " in Hebrews 1:8 -----------------------

Hebrews 1:8​

New International Version​

8 But about the Son he ( God the Father ) says,
“Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever;
a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
 
Matt 1 21 And she will bring forth a Son, and you shall call His name [h]Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins.” - Only God can save from sins.

the Prophet called him god - Matt 1 22 So all this was done that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the Lord through the prophet, saying: 23 “Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel,” which is translated, “God with us.”
And the prophet Jesus said if you receive the same from the Father as he did you will be like Him as well. We who God is our Father He has brought fort His son. I am His son, you are supposed to be as well. He will bear you as His son if you will actually receive that God is with you. But because He is not with you then your religious beliefs to dictate to Him your way, there is no way that that you as a virgin to His Spirit can be brought forth in you.

You really do not understand that the kingdom of God doesnt come with observation but is within you. God with us, God in us, The temple of God, He in you and you in Him as one as Jesus was one in Him is beyond your comprehension through your religious beliefs.
 
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I'll do one Better than the angels calling Jesus Christ " God " ! Here's God the Father calling Him ( His ONLY begotten Son of John 1:18 - Jesus Christ ) " O God " in Hebrews 1:8 -----------------------

Hebrews 1:8​

New International Version​

8 But about the Son he ( God the Father ) says,
“Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever;
a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
Oh no you will will do better than the angels through your regulations for your god.

And actually God called Jesus His son just as He calls all of us who is His sons. You just are not His son to know the Father and what it is to be His son is all.

“Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.

You have not learned that the kingdom of God doesnt come with observation but is within you. His temple His vessel. His abode as Jesus was so clear it is is all. You are lost in a maze of religious muck.
 
Oh no you will will do better than the angels through your regulations for your god.

And actually God called Jesus His son just as He calls all of us who is His sons. You just are not His son to know the Father and what it is to be His son is all.

“Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.

You have not learned that the kingdom of God doesnt come with observation but is within you. His temple His vessel. His abode as Jesus was so clear it is is all. You are lost in a maze of religious muck.
FYI Gary, Posting God's inspired scriptures is NOT regulating God! It is CLEARLY His inspired say so that rebukes your Twisted ( 2 Peter 3:16 ) say so ( man's word ) that CONTRADICTS GOD's say so in Hebrews 1:8! Jesus Christ is that ONLY BEGOTTEN ( John 1:18 ) Son that He calls " O God "! Born again believers are ADOPTED sons, which is NOT the SAME as GOD's ONLY Begotten Son ( Jesus Christ ) because those sons are NOT God the former WORD of John 1:1 who became God-Man in John 1:14! Jesus Christ is that ONLY Begotten Son as per John 1:18 Gary! Case closed on your WRONG say so ( Jesus is Not God, like His Father and Holy Spirit are )!
 
FYI Gary, Posting God's inspired scriptures is NOT regulating God! It is CLEARLY His inspired say so that rebukes your Twisted ( 2 Peter 3:16 ) say so ( man's word ) that CONTRADICTS GOD's say so in Hebrews 1:8! Jesus Christ is that ONLY BEGOTTEN ( John 1:18 ) Son that He calls " O God "! Born again believers are ADOPTED sons, which is NOT the SAME as GOD's ONLY Begotten Son ( Jesus Christ ) because those sons are NOT God the former WORD of John 1:1 who became God-Man in John 1:14! Jesus Christ is that ONLY Begotten Son as per John 1:18 Gary! Case closed on your WRONG say so ( Jesus is Not God, like His Father and Holy Spirit are )!
Interpreting what you post comes in two ways, through your own understanding from a carnal mind regulated by laws for a belief, or spiritually where they are discerned where God Himself opens His understanding to you.

Anyone can post scripture and say this is what it means, the next guy posts the same scripture and says no you are wrong this is what this means, and next guy posts the same scripture and says your both wrong this is what that means. Even Satan can post scripture and Posting scripture comes easy but being that person they are about where God is manifest in you to open up those little books and an understanding where you are identified with Him by Him is another matter for understanding what you are posting. Only spiritually they are discerned and until it is by spirt then self believes will regulate that belief. there is no reality in a belief, only God manifest in you is reality no matter what you believe, beliefs has no substance at all only laws to regulate it.

Christ, (Gods anointing), is Gods only begotten and either Christ be in you as a son of God or He is not. But I do agree with you Christ is not in you to begotten of God. This goes back to God Himself opening up to you what it is to be His son, only begotten of Him and no other way. You are trying to believe yourself into a condition that you never have been in the Father, that is very obvious in your interpretations for your own beliefs.

In that day ye shall ask Jesus noting but go to the Father for yourself and He will give it you John 16:23, but as long as you regulate your beliefs there is no way God can open anything of His way in you.
 
And the prophet Jesus said if you receive the same from the Father as he did you will be like Him as well. We who God is our Father He has brought fort His son. I am His son, you are supposed to be as well. He will bear you as His son if you will actually receive that God is with you. But because He is not with you then your religious beliefs to dictate to Him your way, there is no way that that you as a virgin to His Spirit can be brought forth in you.

You really do not understand that the kingdom of God doesnt come with observation but is within you. God with us, God in us, The temple of God, He in you and you in Him as one as Jesus was one in Him is beyond your comprehension through your religious beliefs.
So you have no evidence - I have scripture to prove he was god - was Thomas lying? Was the prophet lying?
 
Interpreting what you post comes in two ways, through your own understanding from a carnal mind regulated by laws for a belief, or spiritually where they are discerned where God Himself opens His understanding to you.

Anyone can post scripture and say this is what it means, the next guy posts the same scripture and says no you are wrong this is what this means, and next guy posts the same scripture and says your both wrong this is what that means. Even Satan can post scripture and Posting scripture comes easy but being that person they are about where God is manifest in you to open up those little books and an understanding where you are identified with Him by Him is another matter for understanding what you are posting. Only spiritually they are discerned and until it is by spirt then self believes will regulate that belief. there is no reality in a belief, only God manifest in you is reality no matter what you believe, beliefs has no substance at all only laws to regulate it.

Christ, (Gods anointing), is Gods only begotten and either Christ be in you as a son of God or He is not. But I do agree with you Christ is not in you to begotten of God. This goes back to God Himself opening up to you what it is to be His son, only begotten of Him and no other way. You are trying to believe yourself into a condition that you never have been in the Father, that is very obvious in your interpretations for your own beliefs.

In that day ye shall ask Jesus noting but go to the Father for yourself and He will give it you John 16:23, but as long as you regulate your beliefs there is no way God can open anything of His way in you.
No interpretation at all needed in John 1:1+14 because ( AS IS ) it POINT BLANK says " The Word was with God and the Word WAS God! Then the WORD who " Was God " with God, became Flesh ( incarnate as the God-Man Jesus Christ ) in verse 14! It is a Fact that God can NEVER cease to be God when He becomes incarnate as Jesus Christ! So yes indeed that can be CORRECTLY interpreted as God-Man! Your incorrect view has God the Word Ceasing to still be God when He becomes incarnate as Jesus Christ! That's clearly why you follow a COUNTERFEIT Jesus Christ who is just a man and NOT God like the REAL Jesus Christ is since He " Was God " ( the Word ) in John 1:1, " With God " ( the Father & Holy Spirit "! So don't tell us true born again Christian readers that John 1:1 does NOT say " God with God " because Here it is AS IS in this Bible --------------------------------------------

John 1:1​

New International Version​

The Word Became Flesh​

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. -----------------------" God with God ", Gary! Case closed!
 
So you have no evidence - I have scripture to prove he was god - was Thomas lying? Was the prophet lying?
Oh yes, God gives His evidence in us all who will receive Him. want evidence? Seek Him first before you react in ignorance of Him.

You have your own religious beliefs of scripture from lack in having Gods evidence where He opens His kingdom in you, and your interpretations has nothing at all to do with Gods interpretation of it.
 
No interpretation at all needed in John 1:1+14 because ( AS IS ) it POINT BLANK says " The Word was with God and the Word WAS God! Then the WORD who " Was God " with God, became Flesh ( incarnate as the God-Man Jesus Christ ) in verse 14! It is a Fact that God can NEVER cease to be God when He becomes incarnate as Jesus Christ! So yes indeed that can be CORRECTLY interpreted as God-Man! Your incorrect view has God the Word Ceasing to still be God when He becomes incarnate as Jesus Christ! That's clearly why you follow a COUNTERFEIT Jesus Christ who is just a man and NOT God like the REAL Jesus Christ is since He " Was God " ( the Word ) in John 1:1, " With God " ( the Father & Holy Spirit "! So don't tell us true born again Christian readers that John 1:1 does NOT say " God with God " because Here it is AS IS in this Bible --------------------------------------------

John 1:1​

New International Version​

The Word Became Flesh​

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. -----------------------" God with God ", Gary! Case closed!
Do you know why man is a god for you and not Spirit that He is, and your god is one of flesh? I do.
 
Do you know why man is a god for you and not Spirit that He is, and your god is one of flesh? I do.
You're the one with Jesus being a god ( as JW's believe ) and NOT God the Son as Real born again Christians KNOW He is! Humans and angels are called gods and Only the Trinity ( FSHS ) are called God! Notice the DIFFERENCE Gary!???? Capital G for the Trinity and SMALL g for humans & angels! Case closed!
 
You're the one with Jesus being a god ( as JW's believe ) and NOT God the Son as Real born again Christians KNOW He is! Humans and angels are called gods and Only the Trinity ( FSHS ) are called God! Notice the DIFFERENCE Gary!???? Capital G for the Trinity and SMALL g for humans & angels! Case closed!
There is no such thing as God the son LOL.
 
Oh yes, God gives His evidence in us all who will receive Him. want evidence? Seek Him first before you react in ignorance of Him.

You have your own religious beliefs of scripture from lack in having Gods evidence where He opens His kingdom in you, and your interpretations has nothing at all to do with Gods interpretation of it.
Avoiding the questions - - was Thomas lying? Was the prophet lying?
 
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