The Bodily Resurrection & Ascension of Jesus

Gary Mac

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Yeshua,, not Jesus, Yeshua means something but Jesus is from the RCC, who are simply homosexuals and pedophiles.
Keep away from them..
All I can do is speak what God has put within me. And in that Al I can do is compare what God has put within me with what He put within Jesus, In Abraham, In Moses in Mary, in Jesus in Matt 3:16, in 120 in an upper room.

I really do not care what Catholic believes, or Mormons, or Muslims, or Baptists, Methodists, AOGs, COCs, Penticostals, non denominationals, and the alike, or any other belief system such as yourself as these are with your own laws to govern your gods.

I and the Father are one, He in me and I in Him, perfect even as He is perfect with His same mind, same disposition that of Love for my God is Love.

You are hung up on a religious belief where you dictate to your god what you would have of him that he may obey your beliefs of a god just as the catholic do and all these others no different at all; just different laws from these to regulate your beliefs.

As for me God has manifest Himself in me. The mercy seat, the place where God and man come together as one. All this noise you spew is exactly why this world doesnt want any part of your so called Christianity in your fleshy judgment of them. You are self centered and do not have a clue what it is to be of Gods anointing that you be as He is as He demands of you.

So dont preach to me your own opinions and laws to govern your god, for my God Himself is quite capable of conveying His message and will in me just as He did in Jesus and these others we read of who received the same from Him.
 

civic

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The resurrection of Jesus seems to be under attack these days more so then in times past. It makes me think we are close to his return with so many compromises is churches today over truth. We are in a battle for truth and the church is failing us. It deeply saddens me. Have you seen the Truth Project ?
Ditto
 

civic

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Yes He is the savior of mankind and sent Jesus to show us the results of His salvation; God is a Spirit not a man. it is God who does the saving and either you are saved to be like him and walk as He walks in His same light as Jesus did or you dont.
1-Wrong again the Father is not the Savior of mankind, the Son is the Only Savior of mankind.
2-Did the Father or the Son die for the sins of the world ?

Your ideas are not scripture the bible is Scripture and the source of all truth because its all about the Son who is the Truth.

hope this helps !!!
 

Gary Mac

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1-Wrong again the Father is not the Savior of mankind, the Son is the Only Savior of mankind.
I am His son, so I am savior?
2-Did the Father or the Son die for the sins of the world ?
Jesus died and is no longer with us, God remains the same and never changes, He cannot die, H eis only dead if you do not live His life wich simply is Love for God is Love and man is the temple of Him. Jesus was very clear the kingdom of God doesnt come with observation, it is withn you. And because I have that same Love Jesus had from God that Jesus gave his life for, I am able to live in it myself.

And we who are born of God, Love, it is impossible to be in sin, 1 John 3, for Love really does take away the sins of this world and when you see Him as He is, Love, ye shall be like Him.

You really cant comprehend that at all can you for your religion makes your god what yopu would have him be, instead of being like the One Jesus had of himself.
Your ideas are not scripture the bible is Scripture and the source of all truth because its all about the Son who is the Truth.

hope this helps !!!
I dont have ideas about scripture, I am identified with them, I live them, by the same God be in me that the scripture is about. God manifest is not an idea but the reality of.

Your understandng is based on opinions where there is no reality of God and where God Himsel is not reveald in you as He was revealed in Jesus. See Matt 3:16 this is how He did it in Jesus and How He does it in us all who has receieve the same from Him. You are just so opposed to His way in favore of your own ways that you dictate to your god what you would have him be to obey you in your beliefs is all.

It is very obvious you have no intenet in following the way of Jesus Christ to be as he was in the Father yourself and walk as He walks in it as Jesus did.

You will never have a real God until you come face to face wiuth Him as Jesus and others came face to face with Him. and became like Him. Without Him manifest His promises has no value at all as long as you reject to see Him as He is and have His same nature as Jesus had of Him and walk as He walks in His same light, same mind, same disposition.

In which you count as evil.
 

rod.ney

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I am His son, so I am savior?

Jesus died and is no longer with us, God remains the same and never changes, He cannot die, H eis only dead if you do not live His life wich simply is Love for God is Love and man is the temple of Him. Jesus was very clear the kingdom of God doesnt come with observation, it is withn you. And because I have that same Love Jesus had from God that Jesus gave his life for, I am able to live in it myself.

And we who are born of God, Love, it is impossible to be in sin, 1 John 3, for Love really does take away the sins of this world and when you see Him as He is, Love, ye shall be like Him.

You really cant comprehend that at all can you for your religion makes your god what yopu would have him be, instead of being like the One Jesus had of himself.

I dont have ideas about scripture, I am identified with them, I live them, by the same God be in me that the scripture is about. God manifest is not an idea but the reality of.

Your understandng is based on opinions where there is no reality of God and where God Himsel is not reveald in you as He was revealed in Jesus. See Matt 3:16 this is how He did it in Jesus and How He does it in us all who has receieve the same from Him. You are just so opposed to His way in favore of your own ways that you dictate to your god what you would have him be to obey you in your beliefs is all.

It is very obvious you have no intenet in following the way of Jesus Christ to be as he was in the Father yourself and walk as He walks in it as Jesus did.

You will never have a real God until you come face to face wiuth Him as Jesus and others came face to face with Him. and became like Him. Without Him manifest His promises has no value at all as long as you reject to see Him as He is and have His same nature as Jesus had of Him and walk as He walks in His same light, same mind, same disposition.

In which you count as evil.
FYI Gary, you are NOT the Son of God! You can ONLY be an adopted son ( SMALL " s " Gary )! Jesus is the ONLY Son ( Capital " S " - Begotten by God the Father & Holy Spirit )! You were begotten by your human father! Case closed!
 

Gary Mac

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FYI Gary, you are NOT the Son of God! You can ONLY be an adopted son ( SMALL " s " Gary )! Jesus is the ONLY Son ( Capital " S " - Begotten by God the Father & Holy Spirit )! You were begotten by your human father! Case closed!
Adoption is Pauls assesment and law he made to try and adopt himself into God kingdom to preach to you that you cant be born of God as His child. But we who are born of God by His SPirit and not adopted at all asre exactly as our Father and without sin, impossible to be in sin for we are born of God. 1 John 3:9. Paul made up his own rules for a god.

Jesus wasnt adopted nor is any other son of God.

BTW my Father who is SPirit is not human. Jesus was son of man by man, he was made of a woman born under the law just as you and I. He was son of God by His SPirit, so am and all who is born of God by His Spirit I no different at all. You are not born of God are you? You are trying to adopt yourself in by Pauls law instead. And we all are begotten of God who are His sons. Begotten simply means a duplicate of the origioual. And it is clear that when you do see Him as He is as Jesus did ye shll be like Him as well. It happend in Jesus in Matt 3:16. Paul never made it to be born of God, he adopted himself by his own laws.

Jesus is my way, not Paul.
 

Johnnybgood

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Adoption is Pauls assesment and law he made to try and adopt himself into God kingdom to preach to you that you cant be born of God as His child. But we who are born of God by His SPirit and not adopted at all asre exactly as our Father and without sin, impossible to be in sin for we are born of God. 1 John 3:9. Paul made up his own rules for a god.

Jesus wasnt adopted nor is any other son of God.

BTW my Father who is SPirit is not human. Jesus was son of man by man, he was made of a woman born under the law just as you and I. He was son of God by His SPirit, so am and all who is born of God by His Spirit I no different at all. You are not born of God are you? You are trying to adopt yourself in by Pauls law instead. And we all are begotten of God who are His sons. Begotten simply means a duplicate of the origioual. And it is clear that when you do see Him as He is as Jesus did ye shll be like Him as well. It happend in Jesus in Matt 3:16. Paul never made it to be born of God, he adopted himself by his own laws.

Jesus is my way, not Paul.
You do not believe Paul’s writings are inspired ?

What about Peters writings ?
 

rod.ney

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Adoption is Pauls assesment and law he made to try and adopt himself into God kingdom to preach to you that you cant be born of God as His child. But we who are born of God by His SPirit and not adopted at all asre exactly as our Father and without sin, impossible to be in sin for we are born of God. 1 John 3:9. Paul made up his own rules for a god.

Jesus wasnt adopted nor is any other son of God.

BTW my Father who is SPirit is not human. Jesus was son of man by man, he was made of a woman born under the law just as you and I. He was son of God by His SPirit, so am and all who is born of God by His Spirit I no different at all. You are not born of God are you? You are trying to adopt yourself in by Pauls law instead. And we all are begotten of God who are His sons. Begotten simply means a duplicate of the origioual. And it is clear that when you do see Him as He is as Jesus did ye shll be like Him as well. It happend in Jesus in Matt 3:16. Paul never made it to be born of God, he adopted himself by his own laws.

Jesus is my way, not Paul.
FYI Gary, God the Holy Spirit INSPIRED the Apostle Paul ( Chosen on the road to Damascus by God the Son - Jesus Christ, who changed his name from Saul to Paul to be that Apostle ) to write those scriptures that are CORRECTLY placed in our Bibles! Jesus is the ONLY Son ( Capital " S " ) that was BEGOTTEN by God the Father & Holy Spirit as per John 1:18 in conjunction with Matt.1:20 & Luke 1:34-35! No other person, who has a biological father ( like you Gary ), was ever begotten by God ( the Father & Holy Spirit! Thus they can ONLY become adopted sons ( Small " s " Gary ), If and ONLY IF they accept God the Son ( Capital " S " Gary ) into their heart as Lord & Savior! So when God the Holy Spirit inspired the Apostle John to write ONLY Begotten in John 1:18, you had better BELIEVE it and put a STOP to your Deny-ing the Deity of Jesus Christ ( who was in FACT God the Word in John 1:1 and BECAME ( FYI Gary that's a CHANGE in God the Word, who " Was with God " the Father & Holy Spirit in John 1:1 ) FLESH ( God-Man ) as Jesus Christ in John 1:14! So that's EXACTLY why God the Father in Hebrews 1:8 will ONLY call THAT Son ( Jesus Christ and no other sons ) " O God "! Therefore Gary remains 100% rebuked by ALL those posted scripture ( GOD's say so ) as per His scripture that He inspired the Apostle Paul ( chosen by God the Son ) to write 2 Tim.3:16! So quit twisting GOD's inspired scriptures as per 2 Peter 3:16 Gary! Case closed!
 

Gary Mac

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You do not believe Paul’s writings are inspired ?
SOme things Paul said was identified with what Jesus said, but many things Paul said was his own perspective about Jesus.
What about Peters writings ?
Peter was an interesting character, he followed Jesus from afar but never got to close, which is common today among religious sects, denominations. They dont get close enough to the way of Jesus to be like Him. But Peter finally got the message when God came to these in an upper room where they became like Him as Jesus was like Him.
 

Johnnybgood

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SOme things Paul said was identified with what Jesus said, but many things Paul said was his own perspective about Jesus.

Peter was an interesting character, he followed Jesus from afar but never got to close, which is common today among religious sects, denominations. They dont get close enough to the way of Jesus to be like Him. But Peter finally got the message when God came to these in an upper room where they became like Him as Jesus was like Him.
I asked if 1 and 2 Peter were inspired books ?
 

Gary Mac

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I asked if 1 and 2 Peter were inspired books ?
Every book is inspired, inspired by what, or whom, is the real question. Inspired and authorised by a king that didnt even believe in God? Many are duped into his insperation for a belief are they not?
 

rod.ney

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Every book is inspired, inspired by what, or whom, is the real question. Inspired and authorised by a king that didnt even believe in God? Many are duped into his insperation for a belief are they not?
FYI Gary, ALL scripture is inspired by God the Holy Spirit! So yes indeed the Holy Spirit inspired the apostle Paul ( chosen by God the Son ) to write those scriptures in our NT! Case closed!
 

Gary Mac

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FYI Gary, ALL scripture is inspired by God the Holy Spirit! So yes indeed the Holy Spirit inspired the apostle Paul ( chosen by God the Son ) to write those scriptures in our NT! Case closed!
Inspired and authorised by a King who didnt even believe in God. You really should take of those blinders and see what it really is about.
 

rod.ney

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Inspired and authorised by a King who didnt even believe in God. You really should take of those blinders and see what it really is about.
FYI again Gary, the Apostle Paul was chosen by God the Son ( Jesus Christ - not just some king, but KING of Kings ) on the road to Damascus! God the Holy Spirit did in Fact inspire the Apostle Paul to write most of the NT scriptures! Case closed!
 

Gary Mac

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FYI again Gary, the Apostle Paul was chosen by God the Son ( Jesus Christ - not just some king, but KING of Kings ) on the road to Damascus! God the Holy Spirit did in Fact inspire the Apostle Paul to write most of the NT scriptures! Case closed!
Actually Paul was a self apointed. His insperation was his own opinions from his own beliefs much as you do.

It is better for me to follow Jesus but I can understabnd why you follow Paul as a sinner instead of Jesus.
 

Gary Mac

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This is rich! :ROFLMAO: Self appointed @Gary Mac rejects God appointed Paul and God's word.
Oh no Gary Mac doesnt reject Gods word at all. Gods word is not written on stone or a page of papper, it is written in the heart and mind of all who He is manifest in.

Pretty obvious that you naver have heard His word from God Himself according to the elementary commentt for what you just posted. Aww but when you do see Him as He is ye shall be like Him. All you are doing is listening to someones opinions about Him instead of God Himself, obvious in your following of Paul instead of Jesus to the Father yourself.

Now tell me -- if you can in honesty -- how righ is it to hear from God yourself as Jesus instructed that in that day ye shall ask me noting but go to the Father for yourself and He will give it you? You havent considered Jesus at all how to receieve Gods word have you, only Paul.
 
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rod.ney

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Actually Paul was a self apointed. His insperation was his own opinions from his own beliefs much as you do.

It is better for me to follow Jesus but I can understabnd why you follow Paul as a sinner instead of Jesus.
100% WRONG again Gary! The scriptures in the book of Acts SPECIFICALLY says that Jesus ( the resurrected Christ ) chose Saul on the road to Damascus to become the Apostle Paul! Case closed on your say so ( Man's word ) that CONTRADICTS GOD's say so in those INSPIRED scriptures of His!
 

Gary Mac

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100% WRONG again Gary! The scriptures in the book of Acts SPECIFICALLY says that Jesus ( the resurrected Christ ) chose Saul on the road to Damascus to become the Apostle Paul! Case closed on your say so ( Man's word ) that CONTRADICTS GOD's say so in those INSPIRED scriptures of His!
But Acts is mans word, Pauls word. Tthe word of God is not written on stone nor a page of paper, it is written in the heart of man from God Himself and you cant even see why you dont underdstand that for Paul is your god you follow.

You just dont belive Jesus nor follow him when he says that in that day ye shall ask me noting but go to the Father for yourself and He will give it you. You rely on the opinions of Paul and the creed you follow from man instead of getting information straight from God as Jesus did.

There is One that you do not know.
 

rod.ney

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But Acts is mans word, Pauls word. Tthe word of God is not written on stone nor a page of paper, it is written in the heart of man from God Himself and you cant even see why you dont underdstand that for Paul is your god you follow.

You just dont belive Jesus nor follow him when he says that in that day ye shall ask me noting but go to the Father for yourself and He will give it you. You rely on the opinions of Paul and the creed you follow from man instead of getting information straight from God as Jesus did.

There is One that you do not know.
WRONG again Gary, it is your Wrong say so ( man's word ) that the scriptures are NOT inspired by God the Holy Spirit! Yes GOD had His scriptures written on stone ( the 10 Commandments that HE Himself carved out and gave to Moses as per Exodus Chapter 20 in conjunction with Deut. 5:1-22! Then He inspired certain Holy men to write all the rest of His scriptures and yes He will also write it in men's hearts! Here again for the THIRD time now Gary is the PROOF that GOD Himself wrote the 10 Commandments on Stone and gave them to Moses ( verse 22 Gary - Read it and weep ) on Mt. Horeb --------------------

Deuteronomy 5:22

New International Version

22 These are the commandments the Lord ( God ) proclaimed in a loud voice to your whole assembly there on the mountain from out of the fire, the cloud and the deep darkness; and he added nothing more. Then He ( God ) wrote them on two stone tablets and gave them to me ( Moses ). --------------------- Case closed on Gary's say so ( Man's word ) that CONTRADICTS GOD's say so in these posted scriptures that He inspired certain holy men to write!
 
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