Arch Stanton
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Excellent research 'A new day' ?
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A new day
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Excellent research 'A new day' ?
As usual, when rc's can't come up with mature and rational responses, they resort to juvenile remarks.
Arch Stanton
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for the record, I got a 'like' from the other poster you mentioned
ReverendRV
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Hey, gotta like those Verses ?
Yes but statistically in this country you have the most bad priests and then there are an extra 7 to 8 in leadership that ignored the sin and did not expose it. Thus they became part of the sin. Pell was very enlightening on that point. He did not even include laity that knew because they also worked with them.You should know better. We could be here all day talking about bad 'pastors'
But not the bad interpretation of them by RCs.
A new day said:
Your the one who emphasized the above. Your also the one who emphasized the following
when you quoted ReverendRV in post #12
travis clark is NOT a spring chick, he is old enough to have many many servings of eucharist wafers.
There is the claim by rc's that the wafers cause rc's to take on Gods essense and being. Yes I know you didn't type that specifically. But that is what the rcc teaches. Under that circumstance, it didn't help travis clark much did it?
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it did affect this travis clark
Luke 6:39
just one of many Parables
He also told them this parable:
“Can the blind lead the blind?
Will they not both fall into a pit?
40 The student is not above the teacher,
but everyone who is fully trained
will be like their teacher.
as Moses says of the Rock / Rocks of the RCC
For their rock is not as our Rock,
even our enemies themselves being judges.
32 For their vine is of the vine of Sodom,
and of the fields of Gomorrah:
their grapes are grapes of gall,
their clusters are bitter:
33 Their wine is the poison of dragons,
and the cruel venom of asps.
34 Is not this laid up in store with me,
and sealed up among my treasures?
Hast thou entered into the treasures of the snow?
or hast thou seen the treasures of the hail,
23 Which I have reserved against the time of trouble,
against the day of battle and war?
-----------The Parables-------------
Matt.13:51
Jesus saith unto them,
Have ye understood all these things?
They say unto him, Yea, Lord.
52 Then said he unto them,
Therefore every scribe which is instructed unto the kingdom of heaven
is like unto a man that is an householder,
which bringeth forth out of his treasure things new and old.
These priests prove over and over again that the claims made by RCs about their sacraments are false. They don't work as they claim.
They also prove the RCC claims about it being established by Jesus etc are false.
Song of Solomon
Tell me, O thou whom my soul loveth,
where thou feedest, where thou makest thy flock to rest at noon:
for why should I be as one that turneth aside by the flocks of thy companions?
8 If thou know not, O thou fairest among women,
go thy way forth by the footsteps of the flock,
and feed thy kids beside the shepherds' tents.
and the Bride says
The Bride knows where those Green Pastures,
and still waters are
and the shade from the noon day sun
so she doesn't
follow the footsteps of the flock,
and feed her kids beside the shepherds' tents
and she doesn't eat of those Mustards
and briers and cockle harvested from
the fields of Gomorrah:
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Tell me, O thou whom my soul loveth,
where thou feedest, where thou makest thy flock to rest at noon:
for why should I be as one that turneth aside by the flocks of thy companions?
8 If thou know not, O thou fairest among women,
go thy way forth by the footsteps of the flock,
and feed thy kids beside the shepherds' tents.
and the Bride says
NO Way
For their rock is not as our Rock,
their vine is of the vine of Sodom,
Their wine is the poison of dragons,
and the cruel venom of asps
and the bread they serve is
of the fields of Gomorrah:
For their rock is not as our Rock,
their vine is of the vine of Sodom,
Their wine is the poison of dragons,
and the cruel venom of asps
and the bread they serve is
of the fields of Gomorrah:
The Bride knows where those Green Pastures,
and still waters are
and the shade from the noon day sun
so she doesn't
follow the footsteps of the flock,
and feed her kids beside the shepherds' tents
and she doesn't eat of those Mustards
and briers and cockle harvested from
the fields of Gomorrah:
And the woman fled into the wilderness,
where she hath a place prepared of God,
that they should feed her there
a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
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Arch Stanton
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Peter ate at the Last Supper and still denied Christ three times.
Arch says
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here is the post Arch linked to
Your the one who emphasized the above. Your also the one who emphasized the following
when you quoted ReverendRV in post #12
travis clark is NOT a spring chick, he is old enough to have many many servings of eucharist wafers.
There is the claim by rc's that the wafers cause rc's to take on Gods essense and being. Yes I know you didn't type that specifically. But that is what the rcc teaches. Under that circumstance, it didn't help travis clark much did it?
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Arch;
that was A new Day comment not mine
Peter ate at the Last Supper and still denied Christ three times.
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here is the post Arch linked to
A new day said:
Your the one who emphasized the above. Your also the one who emphasized the following
when you quoted ReverendRV in post #12
travis clark is NOT a spring chick, he is old enough to have many many servings of eucharist wafers.
There is the claim by rc's that the wafers cause rc's to take on Gods essense and being. Yes I know you didn't type that specifically. But that is what the rcc teaches. Under that circumstance, it didn't help travis clark much did it?
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Arch;
that was A new Day comment not mine
A new day
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True that peter denied knowing Christ three times, but at the same time, neither did peter or any of the other apostles ever teach substantiation or that after ingestion of the bread and wine that they took on Gods essense and total being and became gods themselves.
Arch Stanton
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You don't know what they taught. The year was AD 33ish
pilgrim
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The Catholic "Sola"
Catholic theology has a "sola" regarding justification. There is only one thing that makes us righteous/just before God - and this is the fact that God has made us in fact righteous. God makes us just and righteous people. God does this as a new creation. We were not righteous, but now we are...
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A new day
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Yes I do know what the apostles taught, NOT one time did the apostles ever tell people to put faith in a wafer for salvation or join an institution, NO, they told people to believe upon the name of Jesus and they would be saved. They told people to "believe" not stuff their mouths with flesh and drink blood to receive salvation. NOne of that is even hinted at in Scripture.
Jesus also said
Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”
The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you—they are full of the Spirit and life.
Acts 10:43
All the prophets testify about Him that everyone who believes in Him receives forgiveness of sins through His name."
Romans 10:9
that if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved
Acts 16:31
They replied, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved
Acts 4:12
Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.”
Acts 10:43
All the prophets testify about Him that everyone who believes in Him receives forgiveness of sins through His name."
A new day
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The rc catchechism is NOT Scripture. God is our Creator, and Scripture is God speaking to man and what HE says, supersedes any writings outside of Scripture. God is unchanging, and His written words do not change. And neither does Scripture contradict itself because God does NOT contradict Himself. God will NOT be mocked by your institution.
Arch Stanton said:
Peter ate at the Last Supper and still denied Christ three times.
A new day said:
True that peter denied knowing Christ three times, but at the same time, neither did peter or any of the other apostles ever teach substantiation or that after ingestion of the bread and wine that they took on Gods essense and total being and became gods themselves.
and Arch replies
You don't know what they taught. The year was AD 33ish
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And when the people saw that Moses delayed
to come down out of the mount,
the people gathered themselves together unto Aaron,
and said unto him,
Up, make us gods, which shall go before us; for as for this Moses,
the man that brought us up out of the land of Egypt,
we wot not what is become of him.
2 And Aaron said unto them,
Break off the golden earrings,
which are in the ears of your wives,
of your sons, and of your daughters,
and bring them unto me.
3 And all the people brake off the golden earrings
which were in their ears, and brought them unto Aaron.
4 And he received them at their hand,
and fashioned it with a graving tool,
after he had made it a molten calf:
and they said,
which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.
well, Arch;
one thing is for certain;
they didn't teach this Crap-Ola
And Moses said unto Aaron,
What did this people unto thee,
that thou hast brought so great a sin upon them?
Then Moses stood in the gate of the camp, and said,
Who is on the Lord's side? let him come unto me.
And all the sons of Levi gathered themselves together unto him.
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the Bride doesn't eat of the Golden Calf of Mithras,
the god of Mithraism
"a sacrificial meal, which involved eating the flesh and drinking the blood of a bull."
Peter ate at the Last Supper and still denied Christ three times.
A new day said:
True that peter denied knowing Christ three times, but at the same time, neither did peter or any of the other apostles ever teach substantiation or that after ingestion of the bread and wine that they took on Gods essense and total being and became gods themselves.
and Arch replies
and Arch replies
You don't know what they taught. The year was AD 33ish
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Luke 1:1
Forasmuch as many have taken in hand
to set forth in order a declaration of those things
which are most surely believed among us,
2 Even as they delivered them unto us,
which from the beginning were eyewitnesses,
and ministers of the word;
3 It seemed good to me also,
having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first,
to write unto thee in order, most excellent Theophilus,
4 That thou mightest know the certainty of those things,
wherein thou hast been instructed.
\
And when the people saw that Moses delayed
to come down out of the mount,
the people gathered themselves together unto Aaron,
and said unto him,
Up, make us gods, which shall go before us; for as for this Moses,
the man that brought us up out of the land of Egypt,
we wot not what is become of him.
2 And Aaron said unto them,
Break off the golden earrings,
which are in the ears of your wives,
of your sons, and of your daughters,
and bring them unto me.
3 And all the people brake off the golden earrings
which were in their ears, and brought them unto Aaron.
4 And he received them at their hand,
and fashioned it with a graving tool,
after he had made it a molten calf:
and they said,
the people gathered themselves together
These be thy gods, O Israel,which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.
well, Arch;
one thing is for certain;
they didn't teach this Crap-Ola
Mithraism was a religion in the Roman Empire in the 1st through 5th centuries AD. It was very popular among the Romans, especially among Roman soldiers, and was possibly the religion of several Roman emperors. While Mithraism was never given “official” status in the Roman Empire, it was the de facto official religion until Constantine and succeeding Roman emperors replaced Mithraism with Christianity. One of the key features of Mithraism was a sacrificial meal, which involved eating the flesh and drinking the blood of a bull. Mithras, the god of Mithraism, was “present” in the flesh and blood of the bull, and when consumed, granted salvation to those who partook of the sacrificial meal (this is known as theophagy, the eating of one’s god).
And Moses said unto Aaron,
What did this people unto thee,
that thou hast brought so great a sin upon them?
Then Moses stood in the gate of the camp, and said,
Who is on the Lord's side? let him come unto me.
And all the sons of Levi gathered themselves together unto him.
--------------Posters---------------
the Bride doesn't eat of the Golden Calf of Mithras,
the god of Mithraism
"a sacrificial meal, which involved eating the flesh and drinking the blood of a bull."
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Arch Stanton
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only if you think the Bible is an all inclusive manual -- you forgot about the traditions of His Church