Fascinating - I have never heard of this - thank you. This seems to be in conflict with The Bible though. Do you know of anything in scripture that describes God as manifesting as many gods? Or the names of those gods?Henotheism is more like what I believe. It is devotion to a Supreme God over all who manifests as many gods.
I have never seen it interpreted this way. Thank you for explainingExcept that is what Elohim means in the Old Testament, that is, "gods". It is the plural of El in the Old Testament. El even tells us that we are Elohim: "I said, “You are elohim (“gods”), sons of the El*yown (“Most High”), all of you; nevertheless, like men you shall die (Psalm 82:6).
In the New Testament "gods" is expressed as "sons" of God, for example, "For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God." (Romans 8:14)
Christian orthodoxy recognizes at least four independent gods. They recognize the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit, and they recognize the "God of this world" or devil, according to Paul; although they confound them all and have no idea who is who. It is a "mystery" to them as they like to say.
Ah - ok - that makes sense. Thank you.Yes, there is supposed to be only one all powerful God who is independently manifest in creation as his own Son, for example, "indeed there are many “gods” and many “lords”— yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist." (1 corinthians 8:6).
But the catch is that Jesus Christ is in you, and me, and in all things, making us the "sons" of God or put another way, the Elohim ("gods"). The flip side is that YHWH/Adversary is also in us. The former is the archetype for Good manifest as virtues and the latter is the archetype for Bad manifest as the impulses of the flesh, for example, fits of anger, jealousy, strife, envy, etc.
I agree - we all must make our own moral choices and decisions and then live with the consequences - this applies to the atheist, the Christian, and the Hindu alike.So even if you don't believe in God (El) or gods (Elohim), we are all faced with a choice to either submit to bad impulses, such as, anger, lust, etc. or submit to what we know is good, truth, love, etc.
This makes no sense to me. If God is omnipotent and he is 'rooting' for us then why put us through all this suffering at all? If God loved us and was rooting for us to be kind and good then He could have left us in The Garden. Or put humans straight into Heaven.It is inherent in us: Jesus/Spirit duking it out with YHWH/Adversary and our souls stand in the middle, --which one will we choose to be? It is an inescapable part of everyones life. So the supreme God looks at all of us recognizing our independence but rooting for us to choose the Jesus/Spirit, that is, the good in us.
If God is omnipotent then he wants to see us suffer. He wants to see billions of us make the wrong choice so he can send us to burn forever. If He did not then he could stop it at any time. Instead he watches and 'roots' like he is an observer with no power to help. He is omnipotent - he wants to see his son and the devil fight more than just putting humans into paradise.
He is not rooting for us. He is watching us like a reality TV show. And he is ready to burn us if we do the wrong thing.
If someone said you had the power to either put your children in paradise or have them suffer and possibly burn forever what would you choose? Would you make your kids suffer and 'root' for them to get a happy ending? Would you put your own kids in a lake of fire for eternity by the billions?
It really makes no sense
Then God is not love. God does not love us. He is an angry, jealous God. And I personally would never worship such a being even if he had a change of heart.YHWH Elohim/Adversary of men ordered all that stuff in the OT (1). YHWH has fits of anger, jealousy, strife.
This all makes sense as long as God is not omnipotent. If God is omnipotent then all of this is meaningless since God can change anything at will. If we suffer and burn it is because God wants it that way.It is YHWH who declares himself "God" and no other. Do you see what the authors are writing for our instruction? So many don't. YHWH and flesh are associated and if both rule over us then we experience temptation, sin and condemnation. The flesh produced by YHWH desires sin, the Law attributed to YHWH condemns it, and YHWH kills us for the sin produced by the flesh formed by YHWH. YHWH is the ADVERSARY of humans because he forms the flesh. Paul said the flesh wars against the spirit while the soul is pulled in either direction.
On the other hand, Ruach Elohim/Jesus represent the virtues. If our soul serves Good, Love, Truth, etc. then our soul is saved and free from condemnation, although the body of flesh still dies. The hope is for a new temple for our soul that serves the Good Soul, rather than doing its own thing, --and also does not wear out like the current body does.
There is just no other way to see that I'm afraid.
Then it seems silly to praise and worship him - to me anyway.Others have come to the same conclusion that YHWH is not the best example to follow and quite possibly working against us.
Thanks for sharing your views - they are unusual and I enjoy learning how people think. Have a great day