The definition of regeneration

civic

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paliggenesia: regeneration, renewal

Original Word:
παλιγγενεσία, ας, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: paliggenesia
Phonetic Spelling: (pal-ing-ghen-es-ee'-ah)
Definition: regeneration, renewal
Usage: a new birth, regeneration, renewal. properly, the coming of new birth because "born again"; regeneration.

Thayers- παλιγγενεσία- properly, new birth, reproduction, renewal, recreation . Commonly, however, the word denotes the restoration of a thing to its pristine state, its renovation, as the renewal or restoration of life after death.

In English, the word generate means to bring into existence; cause to be; produce. Re-generate basically means again.

So, it means to bring into existence again, renewed, rebirth, recreate, restoration etc......

When God created Adam, Adam was spiritually alive. When they sinned in the garden they died spiritually.

This is what it means when Paul says we were (past tense) dead in sins. ( Ephesians 2:1,5) We were regenerated and brought back to spiritual life (that man was originally created with, hence rebirth, renewed, born anew-again, born of the spirit etc...). A work of God not by mans will or human decision. John 1:13.

Ephesians 2:4-5- But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, 5 made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions

Colossians 2:13
When you were dead in your trespasses and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our trespasses,

Paul says:
(1 Corinthians 2:14 ) But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

The natural man is a spiritually dead person who is unsaved. He does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, and he cannot know them. Why? Because they are spiritually discerned.

Then in the next verse Paul says:
(1 Corinthians 2:15) But he who is spiritual judges all things . . .

The word "judges" there basically means to sift, to examine, to decide rightly.

The question is, how does a natural man who does not accept the things of the Spirit of God become spiritual so that he can sift, examine or decide rightly? The correct answer is that God must sovereignly do it.

hope this helps !!!
 

TomFL

Well-known member
paliggenesia: regeneration, renewal

Original Word:
παλιγγενεσία, ας, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: paliggenesia
Phonetic Spelling: (pal-ing-ghen-es-ee'-ah)
Definition: regeneration, renewal
Usage: a new birth, regeneration, renewal. properly, the coming of new birth because "born again"; regeneration.

Thayers- παλιγγενεσία- properly, new birth, reproduction, renewal, recreation . Commonly, however, the word denotes the restoration of a thing to its pristine state, its renovation, as the renewal or restoration of life after death.

In English, the word generate means to bring into existence; cause to be; produce. Re-generate basically means again.

So, it means to bring into existence again, renewed, rebirth, recreate, restoration etc......

When God created Adam, Adam was spiritually alive. When they sinned in the garden they died spiritually.

This is what it means when Paul says we were (past tense) dead in sins. ( Ephesians 2:1,5) We were regenerated and brought back to spiritual life (that man was originally created with, hence rebirth, renewed, born anew-again, born of the spirit etc...). A work of God not by mans will or human decision. John 1:13.

Ephesians 2:4-5- But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, 5 made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions

Colossians 2:13
When you were dead in your trespasses and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our trespasses,

Paul says:
(1 Corinthians 2:14 ) But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

The natural man is a spiritually dead person who is unsaved. He does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, and he cannot know them. Why? Because they are spiritually discerned.

Then in the next verse Paul says:
(1 Corinthians 2:15) But he who is spiritual judges all things . . .

The word "judges" there basically means to sift, to examine, to decide rightly.

The question is, how does a natural man who does not accept the things of the Spirit of God become spiritual so that he can sift, examine or decide rightly? The correct answer is that God must sovereignly do it.

hope this helps !!!
Can we put it this way ?

Regeneration
What does it mean to be born again?
EXPLANATION AND SCRIPTURAL BASIS
We may define regeneration as follows: Regeneration is a secret act of God in which he imparts new spiritual life to us. This is sometimes called “being born again” (using language from John 3:3–8).
Grudem's systematic theology

Regeneration is new life
 

civic

Active member
Can we put it this way ?

Regeneration
What does it mean to be born again?
EXPLANATION AND SCRIPTURAL BASIS
We may define regeneration as follows: Regeneration is a secret act of God in which he imparts new spiritual life to us. This is sometimes called “being born again” (using language from John 3:3–8).
Grudem's systematic theology

Regeneration is new life
I agree !

I know some do not but I'm in agreement.
 

brightfame52

Well-known member
civic

When God created Adam, Adam was spiritually alive. When they sinned in the garden they died spiritually.

I dont know if i agree with Adam being spiritually alive at his creation, since he was made natural and earthy 1 Cor 15. I do believe he had a fellowship with God of a innocent physical sort, but not spiritual. When he sinned that fellowhip was interrupted and he died that way, but I also believe Adam and Eve were soon afterward born again and given a newbirth and faith in Christ the seed of the woman ! In other words he became spiritual for the first time after his fall
 

TomFL

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civic



I dont know if i agree with Adam being spiritually alive at his creation, since he was made natural and earthy 1 Cor 15. I do believe he had a fellowship with God of a innocent physical sort, but not spiritual. When he sinned that fellowhip was interrupted and he died that way, but I also believe Adam and Eve were soon afterward born again and given a newbirth and faith in Christ the seed of the woman ! In other words he became spiritual for the first time after his fall
BCV

Book, Chapter and verse
 

Septextura

Active member
It's the first resurrection, Christ being the first fruit. The spiritually dead are quickened unto life and the mind begins to understand the spiritual unseen providence, presence and will of God. Hence why regeneration must precede faith.

How can the spiritually dead natural man believe in the things of the Spirit of God? He cannot. At best he can speculate about a deist or pantheist deity, but he cannot know God because he isn't known by God.

If one is resurrected in Christ, indwelled by the Holy Spirit unto life, can he "reject the gift of faith" from God? No, you crave to know more about God with your whole being. Faith is a fruit of the Spirit already in you. It's not a small plastic cup with a pill that you can swallow or spit.

Enjoy this meme about Leightonism.

 

zerinus

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The question is, how does a natural man who does not accept the things of the Spirit of God become spiritual so that he can sift, examine or decide rightly? The correct answer is that God must sovereignly do it.

hope this helps !!!
That contradicts the Bible. The Bible says that faith comes by hearing the word of God:

Romans 10:

13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent [by God]? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.


That rules out "regeneration" as the agent of "faith". Faith comes by hearing the word of God, end of story. "Regeneration" follows faith, not the other way.
 

zerinus

Active member
It's the first resurrection, Christ being the first fruit. The spiritually dead are quickened unto life and the mind begins to understand the spiritual unseen providence, presence and will of God. Hence why regeneration must precede faith.
Faith precedes regeneration. See my previous post.
How can the spiritually dead natural man believe in the things of the Spirit of God? He cannot. At best he can speculate about a deist or pantheist deity, but he cannot know God because he isn't known by God.
According to Romans 10, he can. It happens when the person hears the word of God as preached by one sent from God. When that happens, the Holy Ghost also bears witness to the heart the unregenerate person that the words spoken are true. The person who hears then has the choice to receive the word that he hears, witnessed to by the Holy Ghost, or "harden his heart" against it (Hebrews 3). If he chooses to "harden his heart" against the word, and the witness of the Spirit that he has received, then nothing happens. If on the other hand he chooses to heed the witness of the spirit, and believe, instead of hardening his heart, then eventually a greater witness is received, and the person is "born again".
If one is resurrected in Christ, indwelled by the Holy Spirit unto life, can he "reject the gift of faith" from God? No, you crave to know more about God with your whole being. Faith is a fruit of the Spirit already in you. It's not a small plastic cup with a pill that you can swallow or spit.
See above.
Enjoy this meme about Leightonism.
You seem rattled by "Leightonism". Not a wise thing to do.
 

TomFL

Well-known member
It's the first resurrection, Christ being the first fruit. The spiritually dead are quickened unto life and the mind begins to understand the spiritual unseen providence, presence and will of God. Hence why regeneration must precede faith.

How can the spiritually dead natural man believe in the things of the Spirit of God? He cannot. At best he can speculate about a deist or pantheist deity, but he cannot know God because he isn't known by God.

If one is resurrected in Christ, indwelled by the Holy Spirit unto life, can he "reject the gift of faith" from God? No, you crave to know more about God with your whole being. Faith is a fruit of the Spirit already in you. It's not a small plastic cup with a pill that you can swallow or spit.

Enjoy this meme about Leightonism.

Except the bible states just the opposite

John 20:31 —ESV
“but these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.”

Acts 11:18 —ESV
“When they heard these things they fell silent. And they glorified God, saying, “Then to the Gentiles also God has granted repentance that leads to life.””

John 5:40 —ESV
“yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life.”

James 1:18 —ESV
“Of his own will he brought us forth by the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.”

1 Cor. 4:15 —KJV
“For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.”

James 1:18 —KJV
“Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.”

faith precedes regeneration (new life, a purified heart)
 

brightfame52

Well-known member
BCV

Book, Chapter and verse
Don't have one, its truth discerned. Gods Truth is not always verbatim in words, its something that has to be spiritually discerned or apprasied comparing spiritual things with spiritual things 1 Cor 2:12-15
12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. 13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
 

TomFL

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Don't have one, its truth discerned. Gods Truth is not always verbatim in words, its something that has to be spiritually discerned or apprasied comparing spiritual things with spiritual things 1 Cor 2:12-15
12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. 13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
You don't have one because you do not have a biblical doctrine
 
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