eternomade
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We find this in Mark 5:
5 "They came to the other side of the sea, to the country of the Gerasenes. 2 And when Jesus had stepped out of the boat, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit. 3 He lived among the tombs. And no one could bind him anymore, not even with a chain, 4 for he had often been bound with shackles and chains, but he wrenched the chains apart, and he broke the shackles in pieces. No one had the strength to subdue him. 5 Night and day among the tombs and on the mountains he was always crying out and cutting himself with stones. 6 And when he saw Jesus from afar, he ran and fell down before him. 7 And crying out with a loud voice, he said, “What have you to do with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I adjure you by God, do not torment me.” 8 For he was saying to him, “Come out of the man, you unclean spirit!” 9 And Jesus asked him, “What is your name?” He replied, “My name is Legion, for we are many.” 10 And he begged him earnestly not to send them out of the country. 11 Now a great herd of pigs was feeding there on the hillside, 12 and they begged him, saying, “Send us to the pigs; let us enter them.” 13 So he gave them permission. And the unclean spirits came out and entered the pigs; and the herd, numbering about two thousand, rushed down the steep bank into the sea and drowned in the sea.
14 The herdsmen fled and told it in the city and in the country. And people came to see what it was that had happened. 15 And they came to Jesus and saw the demon-possessed man, the one who had had the legion, sitting there, clothed and in his right mind, and they were afraid. 16 And those who had seen it described to them what had happened to the demon-possessed man and to the pigs. 17 And they began to beg Jesus to depart from their region. 18 As he was getting into the boat, the man who had been possessed with demons begged him that he might be with him. 19 And he did not permit him but said to him, “Go home to your friends and tell them how much the Lord has done for you, and how he has had mercy on you.” 20 And he went away and began to proclaim in the Decapolis how much Jesus had done for him, and everyone marveled."
Some facts:
1. This man was demon possessed and lived among the dead(2-3).
2. This man was very strong, able to break chains and shackles(3-4).
3. He would cut himself day and night with stones, screaming and yelling(5).
4. The demons recognized the authority of Jesus and were the only ones communicating with Him(6-8)
5. This man was possessed with many demonic spirits, some say around 5000(9).
6. The demons recognized the power of Jesus and HAD to ask permission to enter swine,an unclean animal(10-13)
My questions:
1. Why did the demons have to ask permission from Jesus to leave a man and enter swine?
2. Did the demons need to ask Jesus permission to originally enter the man, potentially when he was a child?
My observations:
1. The man was physically and spiritually dead.
2. Only Jesus(God) could make this man alive.
3. Arminianism is a false gospel.
5 "They came to the other side of the sea, to the country of the Gerasenes. 2 And when Jesus had stepped out of the boat, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit. 3 He lived among the tombs. And no one could bind him anymore, not even with a chain, 4 for he had often been bound with shackles and chains, but he wrenched the chains apart, and he broke the shackles in pieces. No one had the strength to subdue him. 5 Night and day among the tombs and on the mountains he was always crying out and cutting himself with stones. 6 And when he saw Jesus from afar, he ran and fell down before him. 7 And crying out with a loud voice, he said, “What have you to do with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I adjure you by God, do not torment me.” 8 For he was saying to him, “Come out of the man, you unclean spirit!” 9 And Jesus asked him, “What is your name?” He replied, “My name is Legion, for we are many.” 10 And he begged him earnestly not to send them out of the country. 11 Now a great herd of pigs was feeding there on the hillside, 12 and they begged him, saying, “Send us to the pigs; let us enter them.” 13 So he gave them permission. And the unclean spirits came out and entered the pigs; and the herd, numbering about two thousand, rushed down the steep bank into the sea and drowned in the sea.
14 The herdsmen fled and told it in the city and in the country. And people came to see what it was that had happened. 15 And they came to Jesus and saw the demon-possessed man, the one who had had the legion, sitting there, clothed and in his right mind, and they were afraid. 16 And those who had seen it described to them what had happened to the demon-possessed man and to the pigs. 17 And they began to beg Jesus to depart from their region. 18 As he was getting into the boat, the man who had been possessed with demons begged him that he might be with him. 19 And he did not permit him but said to him, “Go home to your friends and tell them how much the Lord has done for you, and how he has had mercy on you.” 20 And he went away and began to proclaim in the Decapolis how much Jesus had done for him, and everyone marveled."
Some facts:
1. This man was demon possessed and lived among the dead(2-3).
2. This man was very strong, able to break chains and shackles(3-4).
3. He would cut himself day and night with stones, screaming and yelling(5).
4. The demons recognized the authority of Jesus and were the only ones communicating with Him(6-8)
5. This man was possessed with many demonic spirits, some say around 5000(9).
6. The demons recognized the power of Jesus and HAD to ask permission to enter swine,an unclean animal(10-13)
My questions:
1. Why did the demons have to ask permission from Jesus to leave a man and enter swine?
2. Did the demons need to ask Jesus permission to originally enter the man, potentially when he was a child?
My observations:
1. The man was physically and spiritually dead.
2. Only Jesus(God) could make this man alive.
3. Arminianism is a false gospel.
