The Destiny of those who Continue in their Sins

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What does Scripture say?

By this we know that we have come to know Him, IF we keep His commands. 4 He who says, “I have come to know him,” and does not keep his commands, is a liar, and the truth is not in him but whoever keeps his word, in him the love of God has truly been perfected. By this we know that we are in Him: 6 he who says he abides in him must walk just as he walked.
1 John 2

Everyone abiding in Him is not sinning. Everyone who is sinning has not seen Him nor knows Him. 7 Little children, make sure no one deceives you: he who is doing what is righteous is righteous, just as He is righteous. 8 He who is sinning is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil. 9 Everyone who is born of God is not sinning because His seed abides in him; and he cannot be sinning because he is born of God. 1 John 3

“Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who is doing sin is the slave of sin."
John 8:34

Or don't you know, you are slaves of the one you obey, whether of sin resulting in death.....
Romans 6:16

No one can serve two masters or he will hate the one and love the other.
- Jesus

Paul to the Roman Church
So then, brethren, we are under obligation, not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh— 13 for if you are living according to the flesh, you must die but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live. Romans 8:13-14

Paul to the Roman Church
What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin so that grace may increase? 2 May it never be! How shall we who died to sin still live in it? 3 Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death? 4 Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life. 5 For if we have become united with Him in the likeness of His death, certainly we shall also be in the likeness of His resurrection, 6 knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin; 7 for he who has died is freed from sin. 8 Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him, 9 knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, is never to die again; death no longer is master over Him. 10 For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God. 11 Even so consider yourselves to be dead to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus. 12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its lusts, 13 and do not go on presenting the members of your body to sin as instruments of unrighteousness; but present yourselves to God as those alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness to God. 14 For sin shall not be master over you, for you are not under law but under grace. 15 What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? May it never be! 16 Do you not know that when you present yourselves to someone as slaves for obedience, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin resulting in death, or of obedience resulting in righteousness? 17 But thanks be to God that though you were slaves of sin, you became obedient from the heart to that form of teaching to which you were committed, 18 and having been freed from sin, you became slaves of righteousness. 19 I am speaking in human terms because of the weakness of your flesh. For just as you presented your members as slaves to impurity and to lawlessness, resulting in further lawlessness, so now present your members as slaves to righteousness, resulting in sanctification. 20 For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. 21 Therefore what benefit were you then deriving from the things of which you are now ashamed? For the outcome of those things is death. 22 But now having been freed from sin and enslaved to God, you derive your benefit, resulting in sanctification, and the outcome, eternal life. 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 6

For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or evil. Therefore, knowing the fear of the Lord, we persuade men... 2 Corinthians 5:10-11

As obedient children, do not be conformed to the former lusts which were yours in your ignorance, 15 but like the Holy One who called you, be holy yourselves also in all your behavior; 16 because it is written, “You shall be holy, for I am holy.” 17 If you address as Father the One who impartially judges according to each one’s work, conduct yourselves in fear during the time of your sojourn. 1 Peter 1:14-18

To the Hebrew Christians
19 Therefore, brethren, since we have confidence to enter the holy place by the blood of Jesus, 20 by a new and living way which He inaugurated for us through the veil, that is, His flesh, 21 and since we have a great priest over the house of God, 22 let us draw near with a sincere heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water. 23 Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful; 24 and let us consider how to stimulate one another to love and good deeds, 25 not forsaking our own assembling together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another; and all the more as you see the day drawing near. 26 For if we go on sinning voluntarily after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a terrifying expectation of judgment and the fury of a fire which will consume the adversaries. 28 Anyone who has set aside the Law of Moses dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 How much severer punishment do you think he will deserve who has trampled under foot the Son of God, and has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has insulted the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay.” And again, “The Lord will judge HIS people.” 31 It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Hebrews 10


Would you like to somehow devise a way to nullify these Scriptures now? Or how about distracting yourself from them by looking at something else?

What do you suppose is the honest approach which a true disciple would take?
 
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By this we know that we have come to know Him, IF we keep His commands. 1 John 2
The Test of Knowing Christ
He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world. 1 John 2:1-2

Everyone abiding in Him is not sinning. Everyone who is sinning has not seen Him nor knows Him. 7 Little children, make sure no one deceives you: he who is doing what is righteous is righteous, just as He is righteous. 8 He who is sinning is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil. 1 John 3
The life was manifested, and we have seen, and bear witness, and declare to you that eternal life which was with the Father and was manifested to us—1 John 1:2
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 6
In this the love of God was manifested toward us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we live through Him. 1 John 4:9
What do you suppose is the honest approach which a true disciple would take?
So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed. John 8:36
What does Scripture say?
Having obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine to which you were delivered; Rom 6:17
 
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The Test of Knowing Christ
He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world. 1 John 2:1-2

Wow, are you ever blind.

By this we know that we have come to know Him, If we keep His commands. 4 He who says, “I have come to know him,” and does not keep his commands, is a liar, and the truth is not in him but whoever keeps his word, in him the love of God has truly been perfected. By this we know that we are in Him: 6 he who says he abides in him must walk just as he walked.
1 John 2


The life was manifested, and we have seen, and bear witness, and declare to you that eternal life which was with the Father and was manifested to us—1 John 1:2

In this the love of God was manifested toward us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we live through Him. 1 John 4:9

So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.
John 8:36

Having obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine to which you were delivered; Rom 6:17

One Scripture does not nullify another does it?

Everyone abiding in Him is not sinning. Everyone who is sinning has not seen Him nor knows Him. 7 Little children, make sure no one deceives you: he who is doing what is righteous is righteous, just as He is righteous. 8 He who is sinning is of the devil
1 John 3
 
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JonHawk said:
The Test of Knowing Christ
If anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. 2 And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world. 1 John 2:1-2
Wow, are you ever blind.

One Scripture does not nullify another does it?

Everyone who is sinning has not seen Him nor knows Him. 7 Little children, make sure no one deceives you: he who is doing what is righteous is righteous, just as He is righteous. 8 He who is sinning is of the devil 1 John 3
And although you're oblivious to the things of faith, you can rightly quote the entire verse:
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, to destroy the works of the devil. 1 John 3:8
And they will all know the Lord Jesus; from the least of them to the greatest. For their iniquity and sins I will remember no more. Heb 8:11-12
 
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JonHawk said:
The Test of Knowing Christ
If anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. 2 And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world.

And although you're oblivious to the things of faith, you can rightly quote the entire verse:
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, to destroy the works of the devil. 1 John 3:8

You truly are willfully blind aren't you?

Everyone abiding in Him is not sinning. Everyone who is sinning has not seen Him nor knows Him. 7 Little children, make sure no one deceives you: he who is doing what is righteous is righteous, just as He is righteous. 8 He who is sinning is of the devil

1 John 3:8 isn't going to nullify these words, not today, not ever.
 
JonHawk said:
The Test of Knowing Christ
If anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. 2 And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world. 1 John 2:1-2
Our Lord's God said:
Wow, are you ever blind.

One Scripture does not nullify another does it?

Everyone who is sinning has not seen Him nor knows Him. 7 Little children, make sure no one deceives you: he who is doing what is righteous is righteous, just as He is righteous. 8 He who is sinning is of the devil 1 John 3
And although you're oblivious to the things of faith, you can rightly quote the entire verse:
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, to destroy the works of the devil. 1 John 3:8
And they will all know the Lord Jesus; from the least of them to the greatest. For their iniquity and sins I will remember no more. Heb 8:11-12
You truly are willfully blind aren't you?
He who loves his brother abides in the light, and there is no cause for stumbling in him.
1 John 3:8 isn't going to nullify these words, not today, not ever.
I am writing to you, dear children, because your sins have been forgiven on account of Christ Jesus. 1 John 2:10-12
No he is not, but then again what does a blind gnostic have in common with a believer?
 
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JonHawk said:
The Test of Knowing Christ
If anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. 2 And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world. 1 John 2:1-2

And although you're oblivious to the things of faith, you can rightly quote the entire verse:
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, to destroy the works of the devil. 1 John 3:8

Your willful blindness is saddening.

The REASON John said "Everyone abiding in Him is not sinning. Everyone who is sinning has not seen Him nor knows Him" is because there is no sin in the Son. The words of the devil are destroyed in him.

That includes you. You can't be in Christ and in your sins because there is no sin in him.


And they will all know the Lord Jesus; from the least of them to the greatest. For their iniquity and sins I will remember no more. Heb 8:11-12

He who loves his brother abides in the light, and there is no cause for stumbling in him.

I am writing to you, dear children, because your sins have been forgiven on account of Christ Jesus. 1 John 2:10-12
No he is not, but then again what does a blind gnostic have in common with a believer?
 
The Test of Knowing Christ
If anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. 2 And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world. 1 John 2:1-2
And although you're oblivious to the things of faith, you can rightly quote the entire verse:
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, to destroy the works of the devil. 1 John 3:8
And they will all know the Lord Jesus; from the least of them to the greatest. For their iniquity and sins I will remember no more. Heb 8:11-12
He who loves his brother abides in the light, and there is no cause for stumbling in him.
I am writing to you, dear children, because your sins have been forgiven on account of Christ Jesus. 1 John 2:10-12
No he is not, but then again what does a blind gnostic have in common with a believer?
Your willful blindness is saddening.
The REASON John said "Everyone abiding in Him is not sinning. Everyone who is sinning has not seen Him nor knows Him" is because there is no sin in the Son.
For such a High Priest was fitting for us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and has become higher than the heavens; Heb 7:25-26
The words of the devil are destroyed in him. That includes you.
His concern here is not for the heavenly messengers, but for the seed of Abraham. Having partaken in our nature He became a merciful and faithful High Priest in God’s presence to atone for the people’s sins, providing the way of peace, reconciliation between God and mankind. Heb 2:16-17
You can't be in Christ and in your sins because there is no sin in him.
Concerning this we have much to say, but gnostics have become dull of hearing and sluggish, slothful in achieving spiritual insight. Heb 5:11
 
For such a High Priest was fitting for us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and has become higher than the heavens; Heb 7:25-26

His concern here is not for the heavenly messengers, but for the seed of Abraham. Having partaken in our nature He became a merciful and faithful High Priest in God’s presence to atone for the people’s sins, providing the way of peace, reconciliation between God and mankind. Heb 2:16-17

Concerning this we have much to say, but gnostics have become dull of hearing and sluggish, slothful in achieving spiritual insight. Heb 5:11

How is it that you always manage to make such a mess of the Scriptures?
 
JonHawk said:
The Test of Knowing Christ
If anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. 2 And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world. 1 John 2:1-2
And although you're oblivious to the things of faith, you can rightly quote the entire verse:
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, to destroy the works of the devil. 1 John 3:8
JonHawk said:
And they will all know the Lord Jesus; from the least of them to the greatest. For their iniquity and sins I will remember no more. Heb 8:11-12
He who loves his brother abides in the light, and there is no cause for stumbling in him.
I am writing to you, dear children, because your sins have been forgiven on account of Christ Jesus. 1 John 2:10-12
No he is not, but then again what does a blind gnostic have in common with a believer?
Our Lord's God said:
Your willful blindness is saddening.
The REASON John said "Everyone abiding in Him is not sinning. Everyone who is sinning has not seen Him nor knows Him" is because there is no sin in the Son.
For such a High Priest was fitting for us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and has become higher than the heavens; Heb 7:25-26
Our Lord's God said:
The words of the devil are destroyed in him. That includes you.
His concern here is not for the heavenly messengers, but for the seed of Abraham. Having partaken in our nature He became a merciful and faithful High Priest in God’s presence to atone for the people’s sins, providing the way of peace, reconciliation between God and mankind. Heb 2:16-17
Our Lord's God said:
You can't be in Christ and in your sins because there is no sin in him.
Concerning this we have much to say, but gnostics have become dull of hearing and sluggish, slothful in achieving spiritual insight. Heb 5:11
How is it that you always manage to make such a mess of the Scriptures?
As I plainly stated, the things of faith are foreign to blind gnostics.
The Son is the brightness of God's glory and the exact image of His being, upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high; Heb 1
And since that time he waits for his enemies to be made his footstool. For by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are made holy. Hebrews 10:12-14
 
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You truly are willfully blind aren't you?

Everyone abiding in Him is not sinning. Everyone who is sinning has not seen Him nor knows Him. 7 Little children, make sure no one deceives you: he who is doing what is righteous is righteous, just as He is righteous. 8 He who is sinning is of the devil

1 John 3:8 isn't going to nullify these words, not today, not ever.
He goes out of his way to be blind, he reads the truth but doesnt believe it. The only reason he is here is to try and cause dissension. He knows he is wrong but makes a point to try and obstruct Gods truths. Totally antichrist in his ways.
 
For such a High Priest was fitting for us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and has become higher than the heavens; Heb 7:25-26
His concern here is not for the heavenly messengers, but for the seed of Abraham. Having partaken in our nature He became a merciful and faithful High Priest in God’s presence to atone for the people’s sins, providing the way of peace, reconciliation between God and mankind. Heb 2:16-17
Concerning this we have much to say, but gnostics have become dull of hearing and sluggish, slothful in achieving spiritual insight. Heb 5:11
As I plainly stated, the things of faith are foreign to blind gnostics.
The Son is the brightness of God's glory and the exact image of His being, upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high; Heb 1
And since that time he waits for his enemies to be made his footstool. For by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are made holy. Hebrews 10:12-14
He goes out of his way to be blind, he reads the truth but doesnt believe it. The only reason he is here is to try and cause dissension. He knows he is wrong but makes a point to try and obstruct Gods truths. Totally antichrist in his ways. It really is comical...
It's hilarious for blind gnostics until they perish in their own deception rejecting Jesus Christ.

'That is why I told you that you will die under the curse of your sins; if you do not believe that I am the Christ the Son of God.' John 8:24

Through Him everyone who believes is justified from all sins;
Beware therefore, lest what has been spoken in the prophets come upon you:
‘Behold, you hilarious gnostics, marvel and perish!' Acts 13:39-41

The Spirit of Christ in the prophets pointed to the sufferings of the Messiah and the glory of His kingdom. 1 Peter 1:11
Who will judge the living and the dead, and at his appearing and his kingdom, 2 Tim 4:1

But as you attested, you have no interest in the testimony of those who came to saving faith before you,
gary mac: "I was not built on the law and prophets" [covenant of the prophets] it's all about your warped disposition.
 
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What does Scripture say?

By this we know that we have come to know Him, IF we keep His commands. 4 He who says, “I have come to know him,” and does not keep his commands, is a liar, and the truth is not in him but whoever keeps his word, in him the love of God has truly been perfected. By this we know that we are in Him: 6 he who says he abides in him must walk just as he walked.
1 John 2

Everyone abiding in Him is not sinning. Everyone who is sinning has not seen Him nor knows Him. 7 Little children, make sure no one deceives you: he who is doing what is righteous is righteous, just as He is righteous. 8 He who is sinning is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil. 9 Everyone who is born of God is not sinning because His seed abides in him; and he cannot be sinning because he is born of God. 1 John 3

“Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who is doing sin is the slave of sin."
John 8:34

Or don't you know, you are slaves of the one you obey, whether of sin resulting in death.....
Romans 6:16

No one can serve two masters or he will hate the one and love the other.
- Jesus

Paul to the Roman Church
So then, brethren, we are under obligation, not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh— 13 for if you are living according to the flesh, you must die but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live. Romans 8:13-14

Paul to the Roman Church
What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin so that grace may increase? 2 May it never be! How shall we who died to sin still live in it? 3 Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death? 4 Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life. 5 For if we have become united with Him in the likeness of His death, certainly we shall also be in the likeness of His resurrection, 6 knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin; 7 for he who has died is freed from sin. 8 Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him, 9 knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, is never to die again; death no longer is master over Him. 10 For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God. 11 Even so consider yourselves to be dead to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus. 12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its lusts, 13 and do not go on presenting the members of your body to sin as instruments of unrighteousness; but present yourselves to God as those alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness to God. 14 For sin shall not be master over you, for you are not under law but under grace. 15 What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? May it never be! 16 Do you not know that when you present yourselves to someone as slaves for obedience, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin resulting in death, or of obedience resulting in righteousness? 17 But thanks be to God that though you were slaves of sin, you became obedient from the heart to that form of teaching to which you were committed, 18 and having been freed from sin, you became slaves of righteousness. 19 I am speaking in human terms because of the weakness of your flesh. For just as you presented your members as slaves to impurity and to lawlessness, resulting in further lawlessness, so now present your members as slaves to righteousness, resulting in sanctification. 20 For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. 21 Therefore what benefit were you then deriving from the things of which you are now ashamed? For the outcome of those things is death. 22 But now having been freed from sin and enslaved to God, you derive your benefit, resulting in sanctification, and the outcome, eternal life. 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 6

For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or evil. Therefore, knowing the fear of the Lord, we persuade men... 2 Corinthians 5:10-11

As obedient children, do not be conformed to the former lusts which were yours in your ignorance, 15 but like the Holy One who called you, be holy yourselves also in all your behavior; 16 because it is written, “You shall be holy, for I am holy.” 17 If you address as Father the One who impartially judges according to each one’s work, conduct yourselves in fear during the time of your sojourn. 1 Peter 1:14-18

To the Hebrew Christians
19 Therefore, brethren, since we have confidence to enter the holy place by the blood of Jesus, 20 by a new and living way which He inaugurated for us through the veil, that is, His flesh, 21 and since we have a great priest over the house of God, 22 let us draw near with a sincere heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water. 23 Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful; 24 and let us consider how to stimulate one another to love and good deeds, 25 not forsaking our own assembling together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another; and all the more as you see the day drawing near. 26 For if we go on sinning voluntarily after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a terrifying expectation of judgment and the fury of a fire which will consume the adversaries. 28 Anyone who has set aside the Law of Moses dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 How much severer punishment do you think he will deserve who has trampled under foot the Son of God, and has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has insulted the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay.” And again, “The Lord will judge HIS people.” 31 It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Hebrews 10


Would you like to somehow devise a way to nullify these Scriptures now? Or how about distracting yourself from them by looking at something else?

What do you suppose is the honest approach which a true disciple would take?
Darn, if I sin once...I'm done for?
 
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