The Eucharist

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mica

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jonathan_hili said:
I mean, if you are going to cite something written in an encyclical, you would rely on the citation from the Vatican's website where the encyclical is officially posted more than just some image off the internet.
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hmmm. yet catholics cite words from the ccc, pope, ecfs etc when they attempt to prove what they believe is His truth. how many times on here do we read 'the Church says', 'according to ecf x, y and z', 'this is what the ccc says', etc.
 
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mica

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ding said:
The Pope has been given authority to settle issues of the Christian faith - that is the truth. What is false is that scripture alone is the final authority.
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that would be the catholic faith, not Christian faith. The Christian faith is based on Christ and God's words in scripture. your pope settles no issues for Christians. He doesn't know or understand God's word, but I'm sure he is a whiz at understanding the ccc.
 
jonathan_hili

jonathan_hili

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mica said:
hmmm. yet catholics cite words from the ccc, pope, ecfs etc when they attempt to prove what they believe is His truth. how many times on here do we read 'the Church says', 'according to ecf x, y and z', 'this is what the ccc says', etc.
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That sounds legitimate to me if that's the authority being appealed to.
 
ziapueblo

ziapueblo

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RayneBeau said:
Perhaps a majority of Roman Catholics don't want to even attempt to read and ask the Holy Spirit for understanding of that entire passage that runs from John 6: 22-65, which would plainly show them that any interpretation of Jesus' words contained in verses 53 & 54 would have to include the whole context in which those words are found. Without allowing the Holy Spirit to interpret the words of Jesus and without careful reference to their context, is bound to give a meaning to His words that He never intended.
It is important also to read and examine John 6: vs. 40, vs. 47 and vs.54 which are all clearly intended to be equivalent statements. The terms Jesus uses to "eat" and to "drink" illustrate what it means to believe - and to believe in Christ results in eternal life and in being raised up on the last day. We receive eternal life by exercising faith in Christ where we receive Him not physically, but spiritually into our hearts and He becomes our very life: "But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name." John 1:12
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@RayneBeau,

I'm Orthodox, but we also believe in the Real Presence and have a historical and spiritual closeness to the Roman Catholic Church (although, I do admit there are some errors, but that is for another thread).

For 15 hundred years, the teaching of the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist was all that was taught. How do you explain this?

In Christ!
ZP
 
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balshan

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ziapueblo said:
@RayneBeau,

I'm Orthodox, but we also believe in the Real Presence and have a historical and spiritual closeness to the Roman Catholic Church (although, I do admit there are some errors, but that is for another thread).

For 15 hundred years, the teaching of the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist was all that was taught. How do you explain this?

In Christ!
ZP
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They have been deluded for 1500 years.
 
Arch Stanton

Arch Stanton

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ziapueblo said:
@RayneBeau,

I'm Orthodox, but we also believe in the Real Presence and have a historical and spiritual closeness to the Roman Catholic Church (although, I do admit there are some errors, but that is for another thread).

For 15 hundred years, the teaching of the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist was all that was taught. How do you explain this?

In Christ!
ZP
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Catholic or Orthodox? ;) .... same 'zp' from catholic.com?
 
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