The False Claims of Constantine Simonides Regarding Sinaiticus

Steven Avery said:
How ts your attempt to go beyond “apparently” from Haris Kalligas going?
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Steven Avery said:
They looked at it for a couple of hours before finalizing the deal. Apparently they were checking that there was not a bait and switch to a newly copied ms. Afawk, they did not do any tests on parchment and ink. They were the marks.
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Steven Avery said:
A Defense of the Johannine Comma
Setting the Record Straight on I John 5:7-8
By
Timothy W. Dunkin
Revised, July 2010
With the gratefully accepted assistance of Steven Avery

[SNIP]

grammatical difficulty for the Critical text supporter in this passage was recognized by a
Greek-speaking patristic writer over sixteen centuries ago, though he apparently did not
know what to make of it.
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Steven Avery said:
You remind me of Gail Riplinger and her murder accusations.
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You remind me of Gail Riplinger and her misquotations of people and conspiracy theories, too.

It's always projection with the narcissist.
 
Kevin McGrane
"A Review of the Forging of the Sinaiticus"
Page 86, and Footnote 197
(material rearranged and emphasis added by me).

K. Simonides, Ἡ πρὸς τοὺς ἐξ Ἑβραίων πιστοὺς Ἐπιστολὴ τοῦ Ἀποστολικοῦ πατρὸς ἡμῶν Βαρνάβα (Smyrna, 1843 claimed; probably England, 1863) [Section ‘To the Readers’ (purportedly written by Rodokanakis in July 1843). With regard to this epistle of Barnabas, he tells us that Simonides]:

"had written it with capital letters on parchment, and added it at the end of a certain codex of the Holy Scriptures that was intended by his memorable uncle Benedict, the hegumen of the so-called Rossicon monastery, in Athos, to be presented to the Emperor Nicholas."

Kevin McGrane
"A Review of the Forging of the Sinaiticus"
Page 61, and Footnote 147
(material rearranged and emphasis added by me).

Letter from Simonides to The Athenaeum (issue December 21, 1861, p.849):

‘[M]y late uncle…Benedict, the confidential adviser and spiritual father of John Capo-d’Istrias; and
after his death [in 1831], Superior of the Monastery St. Panteleimon (Rosicon), in Mount Athos’."

https://www.academia.edu/37556820/A...iled_background_of_the_discovery_of_the_Codex​


But, Gerasim [Greek: Γεράσιμος, Russian: Герасим] was the spiritual head, the Hegumen, continuously from 1821 until his death in 1875.
 
cjab said:
Timothy Dunkin has signally failed to own that the latest Catholic Latin translation of the New Testament, the Nova Vulgata, also omits the Johannine Comma.

He brands anyone who doesn't accept it as a heretic and / or a liberal and / or an atheist. Such tactics are quite scurrilous as the issue is one of evidence alone.
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Not any different than his buddy, who brands people as "confused" and "dupes" and "shill" etc.

The day Steven Avery presents an argument not replete with insults of people he doesn't like (Tischendorf is a "liar" but Simonides merely "said what was convenient") is the day to expect a blizzard in Hell.
 
Maestroh said:
Not any different than his buddy, who brands people as "confused" and "dupes" and "shill" etc.

The day Steven Avery presents an argument not replete with insults of people he doesn't like (Tischendorf is a "liar" but Simonides merely "said what was convenient") is the day to expect a blizzard in Hell.
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Not to mention the accusations against Tischendorf and other scholars of "hiding" stuff, when he just had an entire thread removed and "hidden" from the readers!

Darkness hates the light, as scripture says.
 
Maestroh said:
The day Steven Avery presents an argument not replete with insults of people he doesn't like (Tischendorf is a "liar" but Simonides merely "said what was convenient")
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The Simonides errors in the Sinaiticus account are mostly peripheral and comparatively minor.

The fabrication of the saved-from-fire from Tischendorf is a brazen lie to cover up his brazen theft.

So there is a qualitative difference in the Sinaiticus studies.
 
TwoNoteableCorruptions said:
Wow... The three crosses...
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So was this three crosses note a note of an original scribe, as written by Tischendorf?

And makes sense by the fact that it is like scribal instructions and/or apologia.

However, if you accept this truth, you have to abandon standard Sinaiticus textual "science".
 
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cjab said:
Timothy Dunkin has signally failed to own that the latest Catholic Latin translation of the New Testament, the Nova Vulgata, also omits the Johannine Comma.
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No surprise, the Nova Vulgata is based on the Westcott-Hort recension.

Many editions could be mentioned on both sides of the equation.

Covered earlier on this post.

Steven Avery said:
Actually, it is a simple fact that the Nova Vulgata follows the corruption Critical Text. Ron Conte did in depth analysis, much more than your shill writer. Brian Harrison's trick may have been to focus on the English translation of words, which did stay in the Vulgate tradition, ignoring the textual differences.
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Steven Avery said:
The Simonides errors in the Sinaiticus account are mostly peripheral and comparatively minor.
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Steven Avery Spencer - the person who thinks a man who landed on the moon lied about it but thinks a man who didn't write a manuscript told the truth about it.


Steven Avery said:
The fabrication of the saved-from-fire from Tischendorf is a brazen lie to cover up his brazen theft.
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You mean the theft Simonides made up when he wrote letters and signed someone else's name to them?

Would you consider that tactic "comparatively minor"?

Steven Avery said:
So there is a qualitative difference in the Sinaiticus studies.
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Yes, there is. One example you gave and tried to minimize is the lie of a person who claimed to write it and the other is OF THE EXACT SAME PERSON alleging someone with a receipt stole something.

Then there's your obviously poor quality of Sinaiticus study that involves you claiming there was a typewritten note at a time typewriters didn't even exist.

"St. Catherine's monastery still maintains the importance of a letter,
typewritten in 1844 with an original signature of Tischendorf confirming
that he borrowed those leaves."

Studies that show the moon landing was fake or that typewriters existed when they didn't call YOUR credibility into question.

You have none.
 
cjab said:
What is your opinion on why Simonides omitted the Comma in Sinaiticus (since you take the view that he wrote it)? (It is in Russian Bibles.)
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Considering... Simonides claimed that he had for a fact found a 1st century A.D. papyrus manuscript of the Apostle John's First Epistle (more than three feet long) with the Comma, in full, spelled out, (apparently ?) in:

  1. the Guardian Newspaper, January, 1863
  2. the Literary Gazette, August 31st issue, also 1863.

And boasted about showing it off to the learned gentry in London and Cambridge...????????

Sidenote, nothing is sacred to this guy...
 
cjab said:
What is your opinion on why Simonides omitted the Comma in Sinaiticus (since you take the view that he wrote it)? (It is in Russian Bibles.)
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The text was determined by Benedict who was more of a textual liberal.
Dave Daniels goes into the details.

Thus the 1821 Zosima Moscow Bible edition was one of the sources used for the Old Testament and Apocrypha. If there was any NT use, it would only be for limited corrections, but even that is unlikely.
 
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Steven Avery said:
The text was determined by Benedict who was more of a textual liberal.
Dave Daniels goes into the details.

Thus the 1821 Zosima Moscow Bible edition was one of the sources used for the Old Testament and Apocrypha. If there was any NT use, it would only be for limited corrections, but even that is unlikely.
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Your sure about this?

Think about the background of this guy (Simonides).

Here's someone who calls Protestant reformers devil's, effectually, the spawn of Satan etc...

And he/they removed the Comma from the Sinaiticus consciously...

During the long correction phase...

For the Tsar...

Doesn't add up...
 
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