The "gods" of John 10:34-35

Two questions (for the Trinitarians):

1) Are the "gods" mentioned at John 10:34(, ie, the "gods" of Psalm 82:6) 'true gods or false gods'?

2) How does quoting Psalm 82:6 help Jesus prove that "he is Deity"?
 

Tanachreader

Active member
Are there any Trinitarians willing to discuss this?
You don’t believe in the gods! Not even the one who has blinded you?

In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
 

TrevorL

Member
Greetings Ongyo no Kiheijic,

I am very interested in the passage John 10:30-36 as a whole, and what you have chosen is part of Jesus’ reply to their accusation.
Two questions (for the Trinitarians):
1) Are the "gods" mentioned at John 10:34(, ie, the "gods" of Psalm 82:6) 'true gods or false gods'?
My answer is that the term "gods" needs to be considered in the Biblical language of Hebrew, not the normal usage of the word "god" or "gods" in English. I find this first question obscure and ambiguous, so I would like you to explain what the term “gods” here represents. Who are these “gods”? I understand that there are at least two views as to the meaning of “gods” here, and I endorse one of these, but I will wait for your explanation.

2) How does quoting Psalm 82:6 help Jesus prove that "he is Deity"?
I am not a Trinitarian so I will not answer this second question. I suspect that Trinitarians will not have a clear and simple answer to this question. I understand that some Trinitarians agree with the view that I hold on Psalm 82:6, but they then have difficulty when they then try to explain John 10:30-36 and why Jesus quotes this, as they want to hold onto the incorrect view of John 10:30 in support of the Trinity.

Kind regards
Trevor
 
You gods reject the WORD.
Could you be more specific?
So you have set your throne over God as your father did.
I have no throne, so what are you talking about?
I literally know and hear the GOD of Israel as they did in the OT.
If that were the case, you should be able to discuss the OP.
So to summarize repent or die as a deceiver.
No need as I've done this already.
 

Tanachreader

Active member
Could you be more specific?

I have no throne, so what are you talking about?

If that were the case, you should be able to discuss the OP.

No need as I've done this already.
You know what I mean.
You have heard it all from Christians.
You reject Jesus therefore the Spirit of God is not with you.
The op is you are a god with your own word and throne of your life rejecting the truth which pleases the god of this world satan.
Satan planted your beliefs, they took root in you and have grown.
You have become one of them.
You now sit with your father of lies with him on the throne to deceive where possible.
 
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You know what I mean.
You have heard it all from Christians.
You reject Jesus therefore the Spirit of God is not with you.
I don't reject what the Bible says about Jesus--that he is "the Christ, the son of God" (John 20:31).

What I reject is the belief that is not expressed in Scripture--that he is God the son.
The op is you are a god with your own word and throne of your life rejecting the truth which pleases the god of this world satan.
The OP is about the gods of John 10:34, 35, so is not about your assumptions.
Satan planted your beliefs, they took root in you and have grown.
You have become one of them.
You now sit with your father of lies with him on the throne to deceive where possible.
More unsubstantiated opinions, but nothing about the OP.

(Interesting.)
 

Tanachreader

Active member
I don't reject what the Bible says about Jesus--that he is "the Christ, the son of God" (John 20:31).

What I reject is the belief that is not expressed in Scripture--that he is God the son.

The OP is about the gods of John 10:34, 35, so is not about your assumptions.

More unsubstantiated opinions, but nothing about the OP.

(Interesting.)
John chapter 1 says He is God and there are other passages as well.
 
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