The gospel in Genesis.

Carbon

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Says nothing at all about who will believe

Has to do with the selection of Israel over Edom as the line through which messiah would come

and which would carry the message of God
Tom,
Please take a seat, relax, learn.

Howie is trying to help 🙂
 

Howie

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If you break the law and go before a judge there is a specific penalty for breaking the law correct
Whose will detetmined what the penalty is?
Rejecting God and not believing has a specific penalty correct.
Whose will detetmined what the penalty is?

Why do make it God’s will for many to go to hell when those that reject God send themselves to hell ? God is the judge no doubt but the law is broken before anyone goes before a judge.
Whose will determined what the penalty is?
 

ReverendRV

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Sure that is why Jesus stepped out of heaven and became a man because God already did a lottery in heaven some hit the power ball and some lost. The love of God is to pre determine many for eternal hell. That is not the God of scripture. Explain to any 6 year old that before they were born their eternal destiny was pre ordained by God and wether they love God or not makes zero difference because if God chose them for hell their believing makes zero difference.
That's not what I asked, friend...
 

Howie

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Explain to any 6 year old that before they were born their eternal destiny was pre ordained by God and wether they love God or not makes zero difference because if God chose them for hell their believing makes zero difference.
Basically, you're emotionally involved this. That's irrational.

Do you believe God chose those in the Church for salvation as Eph 1 says, yes, or no?
 

Howie

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LOL

Why do you read into scripture what is not there?
Do you think God is unable to communicate truth?
SMH ...

All the inhabitants of the earth are of no account, but He does according to His will among the army of heaven and among the inhabitants of earth; and no one can fend off His hand or say to Him, ‘What have You done?’

You're far away from the truth.
 

fltom

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It says God will have mercy and compassion upon whom He will, (and He will not upon whom He will not.)
Yes and those who come by means of faith will receive righteous

those who will not

The first received mercy the other not

It can be simple when you let the bible interpret itself
 

Leatherneck0311

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I'm not following you. Re-phrase that.
Because some people confuse their god with the God of the Bible. Thinking the God of the Bible does things their way.
Exactly the opposite ! Jesus said whosoever believes is saved but that does Not fit Calvinistic theology so they tweak what Jesus actually said so it does not mean what He said, and the same for Paul who said you must believe to be saved so again the tweaks go on with the blinders
 
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