The gospel in Genesis.

Reformedguy

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Neither were ignored

You were refuted about the word kings in Prov 21

It does not appear

Nor did the king of Assyria (you are all over the place)

how the Lord turned his heart the bible does not say
Proverbs 21:1 "The KINGS heart is on the hand of the Lord"
In Ezra 6:22 it is God who turns His heart.
 

Reformedguy

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Try again

Proverbs 21:1 "The KING'S heart is on the hand of the Lord"

Read
Exactly. So it does say kings there. It does not identify nor claim the king or kings was a believer. That's called Provisionist desperation.

Also, it's in the hand of the Lord not on. A typo on my part which you repeated.

Now on to Ezra 6:22. Lol

Hope this helps
 
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Manfred

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How exactly do you figure it is glorying self to quote and believe John 3:19 ?
Your premise that 3:19 is saying that mercy and compassion from God is based on the Human will
If you actually read scripture is says they would not come to the light NOT they could not come to the light. You might want to reread that verse without your blinders.
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Jhn 3:19 - And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

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Jhn 3:20 - For every one that doethevil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

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Jhn 3:21 - But he that does truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
I wonder if you understand what would not because they could not even means.

Seems you think it means they could, if only they would!

So who is the one with the blinders and who is the one pitting scripture against scripture because you read it with your false premise glasses on.

You people just cannot stop glorifying self can you?
Read John 19 again knowing for a fact that Gods mercy and compassion does not depend on human will or exertion and you may start to understand scripture for the first time in your life.

As long as you insist that God's mercy and compassion is dependent on the will of man or on the exertion of man, and you keep wearing those blinders then you will for ever disgrace God and His sovereign will.
 

fltom

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Exactly. So it does say kings there. It does not identify nor claim the king or kings was a believer. That's called Provisionist desperation.

Also, it's in the hand of the Lord not on. A typo on my part which you repeated.

Now on to Ezra 6:22. Lol

Hope this helps
No it does not say KINGS

can you not read

King's is not kings

you really do not know what you are talking about
 

Reformedguy

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No it does not say KINGS

can you not read

King's is not kings

you really do not know what you are talking about
No one said it did. The point is God moves His heart where He wishes it to go.

What's wierd is if He desires the salvation of all then why does He not move the heart of all to believe? 🤔
 

fltom

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No one said it did. The point is God moves His heart where He wishes it to go.

What's wierd is if He desires the salvation of all then why does He not move the heart of all to believe? 🤔
Yeah you did

Stating KINGS appears in Prov 21

It does not

Hello

Basic 1st grade reading
 

fltom

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Again, deflecting from you proving that the king was a believer?

Deflecting from the fact God moves the heart where He wishes it to go.
You don't want to face your many errors do you

You erred when the claimed unbelievers are given the spirit

You erred when you claimed the word kings appears in prov 21

and you contradicted yourself saying the king of assyria does not and does appear in Ezra 6:22

You really have no idea what you are saying

but why would I want to prove the king of Assyria was a believer as I never claimed he was

hello

And what has that to do with the fact under the new covenant unbelievers are not given the spirit
 

Reformedguy

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You don't want to face your many errors do you

You erred when the claimed unbelievers are given the spirit

You erred when you claimed the word kings appears in prov 21

and you contradicted yourself saying the king of assyria does not and does appear in Ezra 6:22

You really have no idea what you are saying

but why would I want to prove the king of Assyria was a believer as I never claimed he was

hello

And what has that to do with the fact under the new covenant unbelievers are not given the spirit
So the king of Assyria was not a believer yet God turns His heart where He wishes. See Ezra 6:22
I would say He accomplishes this by the Holy Spirit.

Speaking of errors. Where does it say the king mentioned in Proverbs 22 was a believer? Again more deflection and dodging.

Your doing your best to dodge the issue. These kings hearts were turned the way God wished them to go. Unbelievers no less. By means of the Holy Spirit .

Uh oh. Back to the war planning board. LOL
 

fltom

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So the king of Assyria was not a believer yet God turns His heart where He wishes. See Ezra 6:22
I would say He accomplishes this by the Holy Spirit.

Speaking of errors. Where does it say the king mentioned in Proverbs 22 was a believer? Again more deflection and dodging.

Your doing your best to dodge the issue. These kings hearts were turned the way God wished them to go. Unbelievers no less. By means of the Holy Spirit .

Uh oh. Back to the war planning board. LOL
Again your confusion is showing

Where did anyone mention Psalms 22?

Where did anyone claim the king was a believer?

There were no kings (plural) mentioned

Hello

Do you have any idea what you are talking about?

Any evidence It was the Holy Spirit who made the king favorably disposed to Israel?

You simply assumed this

and what does all this have to do with the fact unbelievers are not given the spirit under the new covenant
 
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