Psst don't you read either?
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how the Lord turned his heart the bible does not say
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From my post
how the Lord turned his heart the bible does not say
Reformedguy
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Proverbs 21:1 "The KINGS heart is on the hand of the Lord"
In Ezra 6:22 it is God who turns His heart.
Reformedguy
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Lol, he said the word kings is not in Proverbs 21:1. How about in your Bible??
Carbon
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Carbon
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Well his bible may be different ?
Reformedguy
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It's different all right. Lol
Carbon
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It sure does seem like it
You gave no reference
So where does the NT speak of how God made the King of Assyria favorably disposed to Israel
Are you another who does not understand the difference between King's and kings
Reformedguy
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Exactly. So it does say kings there. It does not identify nor claim the king or kings was a believer. That's called Provisionist desperation.
Also, it's in the hand of the Lord not on. A typo on my part which you repeated.
Now on to Ezra 6:22. Lol
Hope this helps
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Manfred
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Your premise that 3:19 is saying that mercy and compassion from God is based on the Human will
I wonder if you understand what would not because they could not even means.If you actually read scripture is says they would not come to the light NOT they could not come to the light. You might want to reread that verse without your blinders.
Jhn 3:19 - And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
Jhn 3:20 - For every one that doethevil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
Jhn 3:21 - But he that does truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
Seems you think it means they could, if only they would!
So who is the one with the blinders and who is the one pitting scripture against scripture because you read it with your false premise glasses on.
You people just cannot stop glorifying self can you?
Read John 19 again knowing for a fact that Gods mercy and compassion does not depend on human will or exertion and you may start to understand scripture for the first time in your life.
As long as you insist that God's mercy and compassion is dependent on the will of man or on the exertion of man, and you keep wearing those blinders then you will for ever disgrace God and His sovereign will.
No it does not say KINGS
can you not read
King's is not kings
you really do not know what you are talking about
Reformedguy
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No one said it did. The point is God moves His heart where He wishes it to go.
What's wierd is if He desires the salvation of all then why does He not move the heart of all to believe?
Yeah you didNo one said it did. The point is God moves His heart where He wishes it to go.
What's wierd is if He desires the salvation of all then why does He not move the heart of all to believe?
Stating KINGS appears in Prov 21
It does not
Hello
Basic 1st grade reading
Reformedguy
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Again, deflecting from you proving that the king was a believer?
Deflecting from the fact God moves the heart where He wishes it to go.
You don't want to face your many errors do you
You erred when the claimed unbelievers are given the spirit
You erred when you claimed the word kings appears in prov 21
and you contradicted yourself saying the king of assyria does not and does appear in Ezra 6:22
You really have no idea what you are saying
but why would I want to prove the king of Assyria was a believer as I never claimed he was
hello
And what has that to do with the fact under the new covenant unbelievers are not given the spirit
Reformedguy
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So the king of Assyria was not a believer yet God turns His heart where He wishes. See Ezra 6:22
I would say He accomplishes this by the Holy Spirit.
Speaking of errors. Where does it say the king mentioned in Proverbs 22 was a believer? Again more deflection and dodging.
Your doing your best to dodge the issue. These kings hearts were turned the way God wished them to go. Unbelievers no less. By means of the Holy Spirit .
Uh oh. Back to the war planning board. LOL
Again your confusion is showing
Where did anyone mention Psalms 22?
Where did anyone claim the king was a believer?
There were no kings (plural) mentioned
Hello
Do you have any idea what you are talking about?
Any evidence It was the Holy Spirit who made the king favorably disposed to Israel?
You simply assumed this
and what does all this have to do with the fact unbelievers are not given the spirit under the new covenant
Chalcedon
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yes they do not know their own history, good point.