The heresy known as Eternal Justification

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TomFL

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sure it is. Rom 4:25 The resurrections of Christ is evidence of Justification of them for whom offences He was delivered, the elect !
Context matters

Romans 4:24-25 (ASV)
24 but for our sake also, unto whom it shall be reckoned, who believe on him that raised Jesus our Lord from the dead,
25 who was delivered up for our trespasses, and was raised for our justification.
 

brightfame52

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Context matters

Romans 4:24-25 (ASV)
24 but for our sake also, unto whom it shall be reckoned, who believe on him that raised Jesus our Lord from the dead,
25 who was delivered up for our trespasses, and was raised for our justification.
. Rom 4:25 The resurrection of Christ is evidence of Justification of them for whom offences He was delivered, the elect !
 
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TomFL

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. Rom 4:25 The resurrection of Christ is evidence of Justification of them for whom offences He was delivered, the elect !
The word was believe

Romans 4:24-25 (ASV)
24 but for our sake also, unto whom it shall be reckoned, who believe on him that raised Jesus our Lord from the dead,
25 who was delivered up for our trespasses, and was raised for our justification.
 

Theo1689

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According to Paul, not according to James:

James 2:


21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?

Maybe they're speaking of different kinds of "justification"?
You do realize, I hope, that a word doesn't always mean the exact same thing in every instance that is used?
 

brightfame52

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The word was believe

Romans 4:24-25 (ASV)
24 but for our sake also, unto whom it shall be reckoned, who believe on him that raised Jesus our Lord from the dead,
25 who was delivered up for our trespasses, and was raised for our justification.
. Rom 4:25 The resurrection of Christ is evidence of Justification of them for whom offences He was delivered, the elect !
 
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TomFL

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. Rom 4:25 The resurrection of Christ is evidence of Justification of them for whom offences He was delivered, the elect !
Why do you alter scripture

Romans 4:24-25 (ASV)
24 but for our sake also, unto whom it shall be reckoned, who believe on him that raised Jesus our Lord from the dead,
25 who was delivered up for our trespasses, and was raised for our justification.

The says nothing about evidence or preselected individuals
 

brightfame52

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Why do you alter scripture

Romans 4:24-25 (ASV)
24 but for our sake also, unto whom it shall be reckoned, who believe on him that raised Jesus our Lord from the dead,
25 who was delivered up for our trespasses, and was raised for our justification.

The says nothing about evidence or preselected individuals
Rom 4:25 The resurrection of Christ is evidence of Justification of them for whom offences He was delivered, the elect
 
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TomFL

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Rom 4:25 The resurrection of Christ is evidence of Justification of them for whom offences He was delivered, the elect
None of which appears in the passage

Romans 4:24-25 (ASV)
24 but for our sake also, unto whom it shall be reckoned, who believe on him that raised Jesus our Lord from the dead,
25 who was delivered up for our trespasses, and was raised for our justification.

Christ was sacrificed for those who believe

not unconditionally preselected individuals
 

brightfame52

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None of which appears in the passage

Romans 4:24-25 (ASV)
24 but for our sake also, unto whom it shall be reckoned, who believe on him that raised Jesus our Lord from the dead,
25 who was delivered up for our trespasses, and was raised for our justification.

Christ was sacrificed for those who believe

not unconditionally preselected individuals
Rom 4:25 The resurrection of Christ is evidence of Justification of them for whom offences He was delivered, the elect
 
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TomFL

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Rom 4:25 The resurrection of Christ is evidence of Justification of them for whom offences He was delivered, the elect
Again you simply repeat yourself ignoring rebuttal

Romans 4:24-25 (ASV)
24 but for our sake also, unto whom it shall be reckoned, who believe on him that raised Jesus our Lord from the dead,
25 who was delivered up for our trespasses, and was raised for our justification.

Christ was sacrificed for those who believe

not unconditionally preselected individuals

why do you not address that ?
 

brightfame52

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Again you simply repeat yourself ignoring rebuttal

Romans 4:24-25 (ASV)
24 but for our sake also, unto whom it shall be reckoned, who believe on him that raised Jesus our Lord from the dead,
25 who was delivered up for our trespasses, and was raised for our justification.

Christ was sacrificed for those who believe

not unconditionally preselected individuals

why do you not address that ?
Rom 4:25 The resurrection of Christ is evidence of Justification of them for whom offences He was delivered, the elect

Rom 4:25


who was betrayed and crucified because of our sins, and was raised [from the dead] because of our justification [our acquittal—absolving us of all sin before God]. AMP
 
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TomFL

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Rom 4:25 The resurrection of Christ is evidence of Justification of them for whom offences He was delivered, the elect

Rom 4:25


who was betrayed and crucified because of our sins, and was raised [from the dead] because of our justification [our acquittal—absolving us of all sin before God]. AMP
Again believers

Not unconditionally preselected men

Are you having problems believing the text as written ?
 

brightfame52

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Again believers

Not unconditionally preselected men

Are you having problems believing the text as written ?
Rom 4:25 The resurrection of Christ is evidence of Justification of them for whom offences He was delivered, the elect

Rom 4:25


who was betrayed and crucified because of our sins, and was raised [from the dead] because of our justification [our acquittal—absolving us of all sin before God]. AMP
 
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TomFL

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Rom 4:25 The resurrection of Christ is evidence of Justification of them for whom offences He was delivered, the elect

Rom 4:25


who was betrayed and crucified because of our sins, and was raised [from the dead] because of our justification [our acquittal—absolving us of all sin before God]. AMP
Nothing there about preselected men
 
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