The Immaculate Conception

Really? The opinions of men who came long after the apostles do not equal the RCC.

Jesus never promised that error would not creep into the church; in fact, He predicted it would, leading even the elect astray! Your supposed first "pope" Peter also predicted it. What Jesus promised is the His church would never cease to exist, that even the gates of hell would not prevail against it. But this is the true church, not the one that teaches false doctrines which are merely precepts of men.


Enough baloney to stock TWO delis! The early, first century apostolic church did not in the least resemble the Roman CAtholic Church of today, nor was it in existence during Apostolic times.


Oh, more baloney! Inerrant means without errors! So how can something without errors be fallible???



The Bible may not have some words that we use now to label a teaching found in it, but the TEACHINGS are still there, either explicit or implicit, like the following: The Triune Godhead; the Incarnation; Virgin Birth; Vicarious Atonement; and Hypostatic Union.

What ARE totally absent from the Bible, with not even a hint are: The 4 Marian Dogmas; praying to saints dead in the Lord as one would to God, for help, salvation, etc.; Indulgences; Purgatory; being subject to popes is necessary for salvation; celibate clergy....

Not a hint in the first century church. People managed to be saved unto eternal life without these doctrines/practices, which means they are totally unnecessary and not true at all.

YOUR rule of faith--not God's! HIS counts, not yours and HE has said "In vain do they worship Me, teaching for doctrine the precepts of men" and "Do NOT go beyond what is written."

YOUR church has done both for centuries, to its shame.
excellent response
 
I'm going to say the same thing in this thread that I just posted in another thread.

On the day of pentecost, those who believed the gospel message, were called believers. Acts 9 is the first mention of believer's belonging to "the way". "The way" is mentioned again in Acts chapter 19, Acts chapter 22, Acts chapter 24, in connection with those who believed the gospel message. The early followers of Christ referred to themselves as followers of the Way because of Jesus’ statement in John 14:6 that He is “the way and the truth and the life.” In Acts 11 the believers in Antioch, spoke so much about Christ, that the people living in Antioch, began calling believer's Christians. By Acts 26, the title "Christian" was well known throughout the Roman world

Acts 26:28
Then Agrippa said to Paul, “Do you think that in such a short time you can persuade me to be a Christian?”

1 Peter 4:16
However, if you suffer as a Christian, do not be ashamed, but praise God that you bear that name.


Nothing in Scripture about early believers being called Roman catholics.
If we go deeper in history, we will know that Peter went to Antioch before proceeding to Rome. Peter founded the church in Antioch and placed Evodius as his successor as the second bishop of the church in Antioch. Evodius is believed to be one of the seventy disciples Jesus appointed to go ahead of him to the towns and places where he taught during his second missionary journey (see Luke 10:1) It was during the time of Bishop Evodius that the followers of Christ were called Christians (Acts 11:26) and this was probably around 30ad.

Evodius was suceeded by Ignatius, a disciple of John. Legend has it that he was the child whom Jesus took in his arms as recorded in Mark 11:35-37. It was Paul who ordained him and Peter appointed him to succeed Evodius' term. Ignatius died a martyr in Rome. Along the way to Rome, he wrote several letters to fellow Christians in various locations, expounding on Christian theology especially unity since heresies and schisme were besetting the church. In one of his letters (to the Smyrnaeans), the first mention of the term 'catholic church' (Greek: katholike ekklesia) which means 'universal assembly'. He exhorted these Christians to follow their bishop just as the broader universal assembly of Christians follows Christ. He clearly uses the terms 'Christian' and 'Catholic Church' distinctly: disciples of Christ are Christians; the universal assembly of Christians is the Catholic Church. It was not a proper name but a general reference to the larger assembly of Christians, until it became the proper name of the one church that Christ built on Peter and his successors.

One can see that there is unbroken line of succession from Peter, to Evodius, to Ignatius proving the church in Antioch as part of the 'Catholic Church'. One can say that those Christians disciples in Antioch, founded by Peter, were the first catholics.

Note:
other works in history supporting the name of the true church:
Technical use of the phrase 'Catholic Church' can be seen in the Letter on the Martyrdom of St. Polycarp; Muratorian Fragment (c. 180), Clement of Alexandria, Stromata, VII, xvii; P.G., IX, 552
 
No it is you who just does nothing about caricatures of what others believe. The truth about your institution is not a caricature. No we all have to warn people if they are on the wrong path.
You are correct - we must warn others that the Jesus of Roman Catholicism is not the Jesus Christ of the Bible. Everyone knows that RC's believe in an orthodox biblical historial Jesus, born of a virgin, the Son of God, the Jesus who died on a cross and was raised from the dead. But is he the same Jesus who can save man from his
sins? There are significant differences. The apostle Paul warned about "another Jesus" in 2 Corinthians 11:4.
Would this 'other Jesus' that Paul warned about be similar to Jesus or very different? Roman Catholics should consider why Paul warned the Galatians and the Corinthans about this very danger. They had embraced the biblical Jesus . . . but with a twist. They had accepted the biblical Jesus but added on an additional requirement for salvation. Instead of Jesus alone it became Jesus PLUS works.
Paul did not hesitate to speak the truth with boldness. His rebuke was harsh:

"Oh foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that
ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes
Jesus Christ hath been evidenty set forth, crucified
among you? "Galatians 3:1
 
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Show us where any non-RCCer on here claimed we should not honor our father and mother....show us, pilgrim. How do you get that, because we refuse to pray to Mary as one would to God, and ascribe powers and glory to her that rightfully belong only to her Son?

The gross caricature that the RCC has made of the humble maid of Nazareth isn't honoring her--it is distorting and perverting her and disrespecting who she truly was.
Absolutely! Adding to God's Word or perverting His Word has devasting results. To do so, or to follow those who do, is very dangerous. The Bible has somber warnings for those who do so. According to Scripture in Revelations 22: 18-19, if anyone follows a false christ based on unscriptural sources, they wil end up separated from the true Christ and bluntly put they will 'spend etrnity in hell'.
 
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