The Irony Of It All

[SteveB]

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Yet you're betting that you do know he's not real and knowable.
You're laying down a foundation built entirely on your own beliefs that you know better.

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Actually, he explicitly stated that he will give us a heart to know him. As such, I took him seriously and asked him, and he made himself known to me.

So, yes. As a matter of fact I do know.

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To people who hate the truth, yes. Truth absolutely is offensive!
Hitler was offended by the truth, and did whatever he could to destroy the truth.
It started with slaughtering 12,000,000 human beings for no other reason than he wanted to be in control.

Stalin slaughtered 20,000,000 people for the same reason.

Mao slaughtered upwards of 80,000,000 people who stood in the way of his ideas.

So.... truth being offensive?
Absolutely!

That does not however mean that YHVH is wrong, or immoral. It means that people who oppose the truth are not morally true.

I've stated this several times before. So I know that you have seen this.

From several different translations of the verse, psalm 18:26.

to the pure, you show yourself pure, and to the morally corrupt, you appear to be perverse.

With the pure you will show yourself pure; and with the obstinate you will show yourself stubborn.

You prove to be reliable to one who is blameless, but you prove to be deceptive to one who is perverse.

With the pure you show yourself pure. And with the crooked you show yourself tortuous.

So, as long as you continue to choose your own ways, this is exactly how YHVH will appear to you.

This is because you have chosen your own ways.

 

[Furion]

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God is love, and He does love His creation, but you are silly if you think God needs your devotion. I mean a third of the angels fell and became demons, but God seems to be getting along fine. Perhaps you will be the same?

But I suppose one thinking very highly of themselves would think God needs them. It kinda goes with that mental condition.

 

[Eightcrackers]

God is love, and He does love His creation, but you are silly if you think God needs your devotion.

And I think anybody silly that thinks he even wants it.

 

[Furion]

And I think anybody silly that thinks he even wants it.

It is actually for our benefit. Humans are weak little things.

Praising God is uplifting, it helps empower all manner of good works. It sets a man in a proper mental state, where the man doesn't just care for his own but for others as well because it is good, the Lord encourages the good. He encourages the good in everything and for everything.

Whereas sitting around brooding about all the things one does not like about God or His people is destructive and detrimental to a man.

So, does God want our praise?

I would say a man praising God has the correct perspective, and God wants man to have the correct perspective, which is healthy for man. The man sees his place in the order of things, He sees God's place in the order of things, it's all good.

 

[Eightcrackers]

It sets a man in a proper mental state, where the man doesn't just care for his own but for others as well

So people that don't praise your god are all selfish?

I would say a man praising God has the correct perspective,

Of course you would.
So?

 

[Howie]

And I think anybody silly that thinks he even wants it.

That's akin to thinking that a recipe calling for eggs as an ingredient isn't really calling for eggs as an ingredient ... sheesh!! 🙄

 

[Howie]

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Yes, as I explained. It is for that reason that Paul can refer to himself as blameless before the law (Php 3:2-6), and as being the chief of all sinners (1 Tim 1:15). 😉

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Gibberish. ^

So, have realized yet that in your quest to rid the world of Christians you have made yourself a fool on a fool's errand?

 

[Howie]

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The epitome of disobedience and pride before God.

Can you say, "Pharoah?"

Christianity will be here long after treeplanter's death and judgment by the just God of the universe.

 

[SteveB]

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Sure it is.
Otherwise you wouldn't be raging against absolute strangers, whom you've never actually met, denigrating them for not agreeing with you.

You're so offended by the truth that you have chosen to create your own bandwagon to spend your life vilifying a God you claim to believe does not exist, and doing the same to people who have actually become acquainted with him.

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I.e., you're offended by the truth that YHVH holds us accountable for our lives, and will one day judge sin, and evil, as he's done, and warned he'd do ever since he first showed Adam the garden of eden.

 

[Furion]

Love is...

This is what the love of God is like.

4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

 

[Howie]

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Christians are Christianity, slick ... 🤔 🙄

 

[SteveB]

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You're not paying attention Tree.

I said offended.
Apparently your offense is deep enough that you would rather suffer.

 

[Howie]

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Christians are Christianity, slick.

 

[Howie]

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smh

 

[AV1611VET]

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Let's put that one to rest with a named doctrine, shall we?

Are you familiar with the doctrine of Flesh Corruption?

Galatians 6:8a For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption;

 

[treeplanter]

Are you familiar with the doctrine of Flesh Corruption?

Not by name, no

Are you familiar with the concept of personal responsibility?

 

[Lt. Columbo]

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I think you’ve made it tolerably clear from your many posts that you reject God because you consider Him immoral, not because you wish to sin without punishment.

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If I understand the Gospels correctly, God’s default position is to hold us accountable for our actions. And He doesn’t grant eternal life without genuine repentance from our sins.

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Favoring a dismissal of consequences for our sins could be seen as a characteristic of mercy.

 

[stiggy wiggy]

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Heh, or as Banjo Bob would say, "Chuckle."

 

[Howie]

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👍

 

[AV1611VET]

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Affirmative.

And God holds us personally responsible.

Look at Lot ... Noah ... Moses ... David ... Solomon ... et alii ... all who paid a dear price for specific sins.