Sketo
Well-known member
The will of Man or the “WILL” of man? That is the question!
What is the easiest way to create a false god and bring it into Christianity without anyone being the wiser?
You give it a name that is spelled, and sounds, exactly like something acceptable in the Bible! A bait-and-switch!
I believe FreeWILLers have done this exact thing with “WILL”! They claim that man has a “WILL” and we agree that man has a will! See how easy that was? We fall for the bait-and-switch in conversations all the time! Stop falling for it!
We say that Man’s nature, character, desire causes Mans will...
They say if Man’s nature, character, desire cause “WILL” then “WILL” is not “free”...
and to that we, ignorantly, say something like... but will is not free from Man’s nature, character, desire...
and they, bait-and-switch, and say something like... of course “WILL” is not free from Man’s nature, character, desire... but those are mere influences, not causes!
See how the bait-and-switch works?
Now what is this “WILL” character?
“WILL” is not Man... “WILL” is not even a part of Man! “WILL” is the “Libertarian Puppet Master” of Man! When this “WILL” character chooses then it determines Man’s will!
“WILL” may consider Man’s desire but “WILL”, as they claim, may choose other than Man’s desire!
“WILL” considers all influences that are external to “WILL” but “WILL” can not be caused by any of those mere influences! If there is found that there is a cause external to “WILL” then they consider that a different “Puppet Master” of Man, and “WILL” is removed as the one in control of Man... and at that point they lose their mind!
This is why they say that desire is only a mere influence because it is external to this “WILL” character!
Have you noticed yet that we have not been talking about Man’s will any more?
You know the will that is subject to Man’s desire? Not the other way around!
This is also why they can not explain the mechanism that causes “WILL” to land on X instead of Y! “WILL” has no explanation because “WILL” does not exist!
Question...
Is Man in control of his own will?
or
Is “WILL” in control of its own man?
What is the easiest way to create a false god and bring it into Christianity without anyone being the wiser?
You give it a name that is spelled, and sounds, exactly like something acceptable in the Bible! A bait-and-switch!
I believe FreeWILLers have done this exact thing with “WILL”! They claim that man has a “WILL” and we agree that man has a will! See how easy that was? We fall for the bait-and-switch in conversations all the time! Stop falling for it!
We say that Man’s nature, character, desire causes Mans will...
They say if Man’s nature, character, desire cause “WILL” then “WILL” is not “free”...
and to that we, ignorantly, say something like... but will is not free from Man’s nature, character, desire...
and they, bait-and-switch, and say something like... of course “WILL” is not free from Man’s nature, character, desire... but those are mere influences, not causes!
See how the bait-and-switch works?
Now what is this “WILL” character?
“WILL” is not Man... “WILL” is not even a part of Man! “WILL” is the “Libertarian Puppet Master” of Man! When this “WILL” character chooses then it determines Man’s will!
“WILL” may consider Man’s desire but “WILL”, as they claim, may choose other than Man’s desire!
“WILL” considers all influences that are external to “WILL” but “WILL” can not be caused by any of those mere influences! If there is found that there is a cause external to “WILL” then they consider that a different “Puppet Master” of Man, and “WILL” is removed as the one in control of Man... and at that point they lose their mind!
This is why they say that desire is only a mere influence because it is external to this “WILL” character!
Have you noticed yet that we have not been talking about Man’s will any more?
You know the will that is subject to Man’s desire? Not the other way around!
This is also why they can not explain the mechanism that causes “WILL” to land on X instead of Y! “WILL” has no explanation because “WILL” does not exist!
Question...
Is Man in control of his own will?
or
Is “WILL” in control of its own man?
A Practical Understanding Of Libertarian Freewillism!
Mr. Flowers describes Libertarian Freewillism like this... “Proponents of libertarian freedom say that given all the influences involved, including the man’s own character, personality, and preferences, his choice of x or y is determined by his will alone. The will is free to choose for or...
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