The Many Failed Prophecies of the So-Called Prophet Joseph Smith

nomrom

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Test of a True Prophet: A prophet is someone who claims God is speaking through them. So how can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord? The answer is the test of a prophet. Since only God knows the future, then people can test the prophet by how accurately he predicts the future. If even one of his predictions does not take place or come true that prophet fails the test. And if a prophet fails then God commands the people to put him to death and to not be afraid of him.

But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.” You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord?” If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously, so do not be alarmed. (Deuteronomy 18:20-22)


Failed Prophecies of the “So-Called Prophet” Joseph Smith: The bible clearly states that there is only one God. Biblical Christianity is a monotheistic religion, yet Joseph Smith and the Mormon leadership went on to introduce other gods. It is very easy to determine if Joseph Smith or other Mormon prophets gave true prophecies which came to pass. Joseph Smith wrote out several of his prophecies in Doctrine and Covenants in addition to other historical documents.

Joseph Smith prophecy of the Civil War (D&C 87) is often touted by Mormons as evidence of his prophetic calling. This prophecy was accurate only in stating the Southern States shall be dividend against the Northern States and in the place where the war would start. Even in this it was right for the wrong reason. The war was generally expected to start right then in 1832 when South Carolina opposed a new tax law. It did not, but in 1861, it started in the same place where people had expected it to start thirty years earlier. Those Mormons who use this prophecy to defend Joseph Smith as a prophet have to ignore other details of this prophecy which did not come true. However, many are not aware of the numerous specific prophecies from Joseph which were never fulfilled. Here are just a few of his failed prophecies:

The Government Overthrown: He prophesied that the Government would be overthrown in a few years unless the United States redress the wrongs committed upon the Saints in the state of Missouri (Joseph Smith, History of the Church, Vol. 5, p. 394, May 1843).

Men on the Moon Dressed like Quakers: Joseph Smith said that six- foot men, dressed like Quakers, live on the moon and live to be 1000 years old. (The Young Woman's Journal, Vol 3, page 263).

A Temple in This Generation: On April 30, 1832, Joseph prophesied that a temple would be built in Independence, Missouri before the current generation passed away.

Slaves: Shall rise up against their masters who shall be marshaled and disciplined for war (87:4).

Help from Great Britain: Great Britain would step in to help the South, thus starting a world war, and then war shall be poured out upon all nations (87:3).

End of Nations: Most important of all, a full end of all nations (87:6). It’s obvious all nations did not come to an end.

The Second Coming: Along with Jehovah’s Witnesses and Seventh-day Adventists, Joseph Smith predicted that the Second Coming of Christ would occur in the latter part of the nineteenth century. In his History of the Church, Smith taught that the Second Coming would occur between 1890 and 1891. Thus, in 1835 he declared Christ’s return would occur fifty-six years later; and in 1843 he predicted it would occur in forty-eight years. Smith claimed that the generation then living would not die “till Christ comes.”

Matthew 24:35-36: Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away. But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

United Order: LDS history reveals that this "everlasting" order had to be disbanded soon after because it failed. Mormons today do not practice a communal approach to property.

Treasures in Salem: Joseph never found any treasures in Salem. The "many people" were never gathered out, as only 13 were baptized out of the whole city. The treasures of silver and gold prophesied were never found. They returned to Kirtland, Ohio the following month, disillusioned and without funds to pay their debts. (Fawn Brodie, No Man Knows My History, 192-193).

All Nations would be involved in the American Civil War: This is clearly another false prophecy since all nations did not get involved in the American Civil War. (Doctrine and Covenants 87:1-3).

The Earth will Tremble and the Sun be Hidden in "not many days”: The sun hasn't yet been hidden nor has the moon hidden its face. This prophecy was given on 12/27/1832. "Not many days hence"? Since the writing of this article on 6/22/06, it has been 63,364 days or 173 years, 5 months, 26 days. I think that 63,364 days is more than "not many days". (Doctrine and Covenants 88:87).

Mission of David W. Patten: Patten was killed before he could fulfill this prophecy.

Abridgement of D&C 137: In 1976, the 137th section of Doctrine and Covenants was submitted to the general conference of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints for a vote to be "sustained" as scripture. It is a narrative of a vision supposedly seen by Joseph in Kirtland, Ohio in 1836. What the members who voted on this new addition to scripture were not told by "the Brethren," is that whole paragraphs (216 words) of the actual revelation as recorded in The History of the Church had been conveniently left out of the version to be included in the Doctrine and Covenants. The reason for these omissions was that four false prophecies were contained in the part of the revelation which was censored out. These were prophecies so obviously incorrect that even the average LDS reader would pick them up. Therefore, they went down the "black hole" of Mormon history.

Mission to Toronto: In the work, An Address to All Believers in Christ, David Whitmer, (one of the "Three Witnesses" to the Book of Mormon) related that in the winter of 1829-1830, Joseph Smith sent Hiram Page and Oliver Cowdery on a mission to Toronto, Canada to sell the copyright to the Book of Mormon. This mission was ordered by a revelation that Joseph claimed he had received from God. Unfortunately, both the mission and the revelation were failures. This is yet another false prophecy, as the man anxious to buy the copyright to the Book of Mormon never appeared.

Joseph’s Successor: Despite claims by the LDS church to the contrary, the evidence is strong that Joseph blessed his eldest son, Joseph, and promised him succession as the church's next prophet. In the winter of 1843, during a sermon to his people in the grove next to the Nauvoo temple, Joseph called his son to the stand beside him and declared: "I have often been asked who would succeed me as the prophet to the church. My son Joseph will be your next prophet."

Failed Miracles: Although Joseph was reputed to have been involved with miracles of healing, there were cases where his miracles went awry. For example, at the first general conference in Kirtland he seized a convert's hand which had been crippled in an accident, stating: "Brother Murdock, I command you in the name of Jesus Christ to straighten your hand!". He tugged stiffly at the curled fingers, but to no avail. Turning to an old man who was lame in one leg, Joseph ordered him to rise and walk. The old man took a step or two, then could go no further. A father brought forth the body of his small child, but despite earnest prayers by Joseph the child could not be brought back to life.


P.S. The introduction page in the Book of Mormon states, “The book was written by many ancient prophets by the spirit of prophecy and revelation”.
 

Bonnie

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Thanks for this. These alone prove that Smith was NOT a prophet sent by God. He was a false prophet and no one should listen to him--ever.
 
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John t

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Test of a True Prophet: A prophet is someone who claims God is speaking through them. So how can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord? The answer is the test of a prophet. Since only God knows the future, then people can test the prophet by how accurately he predicts the future. If even one of his predictions does not take place or come true that prophet fails the test. And if a prophet fails then God commands the people to put him to death and to not be afraid of him.

How dare you confuse the spiritually blind Mormons with facts demonstrating the falseness of the LDS beliefs. :rolleyes:

2 Corinthians 4:3
But if indeed our gospel is veiled, it is veiled among those who are perishing,
4 among whom the god of this age has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, so that they would not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
5 For we do not proclaim ourselves, but Christ Jesus as Lord, and ourselves as your slaves for the sake of Jesus.
6 For God who said, “Light will shine out of darkness,” is the one who has shined in our hearts for the enlightenment of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ.


Now watch the ad hominems fly!
 

Bonnie

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Test of a True Prophet: A prophet is someone who claims God is speaking through them. So how can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord? The answer is the test of a prophet. Since only God knows the future, then people can test the prophet by how accurately he predicts the future. If even one of his predictions does not take place or come true that prophet fails the test. And if a prophet fails then God commands the people to put him to death and to not be afraid of him.

But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.” You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord?” If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously, so do not be alarmed. (Deuteronomy 18:20-22)


Failed Prophecies of the “So-Called Prophet” Joseph Smith: The bible clearly states that there is only one God. Biblical Christianity is a monotheistic religion, yet Joseph Smith and the Mormon leadership went on to introduce other gods. It is very easy to determine if Joseph Smith or other Mormon prophets gave true prophecies which came to pass. Joseph Smith wrote out several of his prophecies in Doctrine and Covenants in addition to other historical documents.

Joseph Smith prophecy of the Civil War (D&C 87) is often touted by Mormons as evidence of his prophetic calling. This prophecy was accurate only in stating the Southern States shall be dividend against the Northern States and in the place where the war would start. Even in this it was right for the wrong reason. The war was generally expected to start right then in 1832 when South Carolina opposed a new tax law. It did not, but in 1861, it started in the same place where people had expected it to start thirty years earlier. Those Mormons who use this prophecy to defend Joseph Smith as a prophet have to ignore other details of this prophecy which did not come true. However, many are not aware of the numerous specific prophecies from Joseph which were never fulfilled. Here are just a few of his failed prophecies:

The Government Overthrown: He prophesied that the Government would be overthrown in a few years unless the United States redress the wrongs committed upon the Saints in the state of Missouri (Joseph Smith, History of the Church, Vol. 5, p. 394, May 1843).

Men on the Moon Dressed like Quakers: Joseph Smith said that six- foot men, dressed like Quakers, live on the moon and live to be 1000 years old. (The Young Woman's Journal, Vol 3, page 263).

A Temple in This Generation: On April 30, 1832, Joseph prophesied that a temple would be built in Independence, Missouri before the current generation passed away.

Slaves: Shall rise up against their masters who shall be marshaled and disciplined for war (87:4).

Help from Great Britain: Great Britain would step in to help the South, thus starting a world war, and then war shall be poured out upon all nations (87:3).

End of Nations: Most important of all, a full end of all nations (87:6). It’s obvious all nations did not come to an end.

The Second Coming: Along with Jehovah’s Witnesses and Seventh-day Adventists, Joseph Smith predicted that the Second Coming of Christ would occur in the latter part of the nineteenth century. In his History of the Church, Smith taught that the Second Coming would occur between 1890 and 1891. Thus, in 1835 he declared Christ’s return would occur fifty-six years later; and in 1843 he predicted it would occur in forty-eight years. Smith claimed that the generation then living would not die “till Christ comes.”

Matthew 24:35-36: Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away. But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

United Order: LDS history reveals that this "everlasting" order had to be disbanded soon after because it failed. Mormons today do not practice a communal approach to property.

Treasures in Salem: Joseph never found any treasures in Salem. The "many people" were never gathered out, as only 13 were baptized out of the whole city. The treasures of silver and gold prophesied were never found. They returned to Kirtland, Ohio the following month, disillusioned and without funds to pay their debts. (Fawn Brodie, No Man Knows My History, 192-193).

All Nations would be involved in the American Civil War: This is clearly another false prophecy since all nations did not get involved in the American Civil War. (Doctrine and Covenants 87:1-3).

The Earth will Tremble and the Sun be Hidden in "not many days”: The sun hasn't yet been hidden nor has the moon hidden its face. This prophecy was given on 12/27/1832. "Not many days hence"? Since the writing of this article on 6/22/06, it has been 63,364 days or 173 years, 5 months, 26 days. I think that 63,364 days is more than "not many days". (Doctrine and Covenants 88:87).

Mission of David W. Patten: Patten was killed before he could fulfill this prophecy.

Abridgement of D&C 137: In 1976, the 137th section of Doctrine and Covenants was submitted to the general conference of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints for a vote to be "sustained" as scripture. It is a narrative of a vision supposedly seen by Joseph in Kirtland, Ohio in 1836. What the members who voted on this new addition to scripture were not told by "the Brethren," is that whole paragraphs (216 words) of the actual revelation as recorded in The History of the Church had been conveniently left out of the version to be included in the Doctrine and Covenants. The reason for these omissions was that four false prophecies were contained in the part of the revelation which was censored out. These were prophecies so obviously incorrect that even the average LDS reader would pick them up. Therefore, they went down the "black hole" of Mormon history.

Mission to Toronto: In the work, An Address to All Believers in Christ, David Whitmer, (one of the "Three Witnesses" to the Book of Mormon) related that in the winter of 1829-1830, Joseph Smith sent Hiram Page and Oliver Cowdery on a mission to Toronto, Canada to sell the copyright to the Book of Mormon. This mission was ordered by a revelation that Joseph claimed he had received from God. Unfortunately, both the mission and the revelation were failures. This is yet another false prophecy, as the man anxious to buy the copyright to the Book of Mormon never appeared.

Joseph’s Successor: Despite claims by the LDS church to the contrary, the evidence is strong that Joseph blessed his eldest son, Joseph, and promised him succession as the church's next prophet. In the winter of 1843, during a sermon to his people in the grove next to the Nauvoo temple, Joseph called his son to the stand beside him and declared: "I have often been asked who would succeed me as the prophet to the church. My son Joseph will be your next prophet."

Failed Miracles: Although Joseph was reputed to have been involved with miracles of healing, there were cases where his miracles went awry. For example, at the first general conference in Kirtland he seized a convert's hand which had been crippled in an accident, stating: "Brother Murdock, I command you in the name of Jesus Christ to straighten your hand!". He tugged stiffly at the curled fingers, but to no avail. Turning to an old man who was lame in one leg, Joseph ordered him to rise and walk. The old man took a step or two, then could go no further. A father brought forth the body of his small child, but despite earnest prayers by Joseph the child could not be brought back to life.


P.S. The introduction page in the Book of Mormon states, “The book was written by many ancient prophets by the spirit of prophecy and revelation”.
Good post. Can you find those 4 failed prophesies left out of the D and C 137, and post them on here?
 

Richard7

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Good post. Can you find those 4 failed prophesies left out of the D and C 137, and post them on here?
The Government of Missouri suffers greatly.... hmmm... JS got it right. Another one bites the dust...

Missouri suffered greatly during the Civil War. Over 1,200 distinct battles or skirmishes were fought on Missouri soil; only Tennessee and Virginia saw more action on their soil.

Between 1862 and 1864, the western parts of Missouri endured guerrilla warfare. Although guerrilla warfare occurred throughout much of the state, most of the incidents occurred in northern Missouri and were characterized by ambushes of individuals or families in rural areas. These incidents were particularly nefarious because their vigilante nature was outside the command and control of either side and often pitted neighbor against neighbor.

Among the more notorious incidents of guerrilla warfare were the Sacking of Osceola, burning of Platte City and the Centralia Massacre.

In 1863 following the Lawrence Massacre in Kansas, Union General Thomas Ewing, Jr. accused farmers in rural Missouri of either instigating the attack or supporting it. He issued General Order No. 11 which forced the evacuation of all residents of rural areas of the four counties (Jackson, Cass, Bates and Vernon) south of the Missouri River on the Kansas border to leave their property, which was then burned. The order applied to farmers regardless of loyalty, although those who could prove their loyalty to the Union could stay in designated towns and those who could not were exiled entirely.[2]

LDS readers will recognize that Jackson county was notorious for its treatment of the Saints, and it was among those counties from which inhabitants were evacuated and a "scorched earth" policy implemented. The commanding general ordered his men not to engage in looting or other depredations, but he proved unable to effectively control his soldiers, who were mostly Kansans eager to exact any revenge possible upon their Missouri neighbors. Animals and other property were stolen or destroyed, and houses, barns and outbuildings burnt to the ground. The area affected quickly became a devastated "no-man's-land", with only charred chimneys and burnt stubble remaining where once-fertile farms had stood.[3]

If one read's Joseph's prophecy as referring at least partly to the government of Missouri, then it was fulfilled dramatically. Nothing remained in many areas, and government in some areas broke down almost completely as various factions struggled for control.

"General Order No. 11," Wikipedia (accessed 3 January 2009)
 
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